Houston getting raped in that deal
in b4 rox semen shields come in talking about how great of a deal it was
How? If the pick is unprotected...
Courtney Lee's contract is terrible, especially considering his level of talent (not much). Bass is a third big on a good team, but Houston is looking for someone that can have more of an impact iirc. That pick prolly won't be for 2014 (though if it is this deal looks a bit better). Considering Houston wants to contend now it doesn't make them better prepped for a postseason run this year (or even next really).
It's gonna be Asik, Isiah Caanan, Beverly to the Celtics for a first round pick and Rondo. Rockets get a huge upgrade at point guard, basically trade first round pick for first round pick, Celtics get huge upgrade at Center.
That would be a better trade for Houston, though I'm not sure trading Beverly for Rondo without seeing how he looks post-ACL tear is wise. Still a severe lack of bigs on that roster after dwert tho.
i dont think it hurt if they get rondo, dude basically plays below the rim and doesnt rely much on his vertical, hence clown doesnt have a jumpshot so no need to worry if the acls can put up with the full season....they get a pass first pg with good defense is a huge upgrade,
question would be harden is he still going to be in hero mode every time touches the ball, or they going to start gettin howard involve more...
Tbh the lack of a jump shot for Rondo could be huge. If he can't space the floor it makes Houston that much easier to guard. Both him and Harden are pretty ball dominant; if Rondo can't hit spot up shots it'll kill their offense. Beverly is already a pretty good defensive PG and can play off-the-ball.
This. And how is a recovered Rondo better than Beverly on defense?
Boston's first round pick ain't gonna mean much if they somehow make the playoffs as the #1 of Atlantic division. It seems our offer would be MUCH better, with Marion's expiring contract and several future picks, and they can even take away Larkin and Mekel if they want, but I know it well as that the Rockets would never make a deal with them Mavs tbh, especially when the team would potential improve them mavs so much.
There are a couple other ways this could work. At least it works by ESPN Trade machine.
Olynyk and Bass, Boston first rounder for Asik and Canaan.
I find it hard to see Morey wanting to take on Lee's contract although here's another option:
Lee, Bass and Boston First Rounder for Asik, (Beverly or Brooks), Caanan or Covington
http://bostonherald.com/sports/celti...lks_not_so_hot
On the list of spectators for this latest round of trade rumors, one should be certain to include the Celtics. While the club is said to be more than open to the possibility of acquiring Omer Asik from Houston, it has made no move in that direction in several days.
Multiple sources confirmed that an offer of Brandon Bass, Courtney Lee and a first-round draft pick — protected, at that — was indeed made by the Celts ... last week. When it was summarily turned down by the Rockets, the matter was closed and remained such as of late today.
And in a separate issue, as regards Rajon Rondo, matters have yet to be opened. Several sources are now insisting that the Celtics have grown even more committed to seeing how well the Rondo-Brad Stevens combination, already in harmony off the court, performs in games.
Back on the Asik front, the growing belief is that Houston, working under a self-imposed quasi-deadline of tomorrow to deal Asik (because the Rockets would be able to then move the players they receive by the Feb. 20 NBA trade deadline), is looking to stir interest in the backup center.
The Celtics were one of the teams that sought to be involved when Asik became available, but, according to an executive from another club, Danny Ainge has set the price he’s willing to pay and isn’t interested in overspending.
“Why should he?” said the source. “He’s holding a lot of cards. He has some decent players and a lot of first round draft picks. And that team isn’t going anywhere this year, so what’s his rush?”
Asik could fit well with the Celts as a better version of Kendrick Perkins, but he is not without his limits. He is seen as a 25-to-30 minute-a-game player who is an offensive liability at the end of games (a .534 career free throw shooter).
Asik’s defense would help solidify the C’s, but he wouldn’t be enough to lift the club to the level of contender.
Among his best assets for the Celtics would be that his presence would allow Jared Sullinger to play his more natural power forward position.
But, again, as of today, that point was seen as moot.
The Celtics were not deep in talks with the Rockets today. They were not negotiating over which first-round pick would be included in the deal or how well protected that pick would be.
According to a source from a team that has been involved in the process and dropped out, the next move would have to come from the Rockets.
“It’s kind of funny how things that have been dead for a while keep coming up,” he said. “The only way I can see anything happening is if Daryl (Morey, the Houston GM) decides he wants something that he’s already said no to.
“I can see where the thing with Boston makes sense for (the Celtics). Lee and Bass are good, but they’re complementary guys. And if the first-round pick is protected, what do (the Celtics) have to lose? But Daryl didn’t go for that before, and I don’t see how he changes on that. Asik has to be a more important asset than that.”
The Rockets have known for quite some time that Asik wants out. Word is he was told the club would sign no center ahead of him when he agreed to join Houston as a free agent in 2012. When Dwight Howard was lured this past summer, Asik reminded them of his and quietly asked to be moved.
The Rockets tried to play Howard and Asik together, but the presence on the floor of two non-shooters was a problem. And Asik, who will be a free agent again after next season, told the team he would not be able to get his minutes and rebound numbers with Howard around.
That led to this past week and a bidding war that may be growing short on bidders.
I think Ainge probably offered this to Morey. Lee, Bass and Boston First Rounder for Asik, (Beverly or Brooks), Caanan or Covington
I think Morey doesn't want two role players in Lee and Bass for Asik. Morey wants Rondo.
bass and lee for asik would be an epic fail for houston
Might not be, but we've seen more from Rondo than Beverly so who knows. Its proven commodity against the unknown.
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