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According to sources close to the situation, Johnson is also unhappy with what he perceives as his standing as a "fourth wheel"
Star guard asks Phoenix to let him go
By Marc Stein
ESPN.com
TORONTO -- Restricted free agent Joe Johnson, who next week plans to sign a lucrative offer sheet from the Atlanta Hawks, told ESPN.com on Friday night that he has asked the Phoenix Suns not to match the offer.
In town for Steve Nash's charity game at Air Canada Centre, Johnson revealed that he directly informed Phoenix managing partner Robert Sarver earlier this week that he would prefer to continue his career as a Hawk.
"We had a discussion," Johnson said in his first extended interview about his future since free agency began July 1.
"I did tell them that."
Asked why he wants to leave the Suns after a breakthrough season, for himself and the team, Johnson said: "It's a lot of things. How things were handled [with Johnson's contract] last summer, how things have been handled this summer. There's been some things going on that aren't great."
Informed late Friday of Johnson's comments, Suns officials declined to respond.
Johnson hoped to sign a six-year, $50 million extension with Phoenix before last season, but the talks stalled with the sides about $5 million apart. At the time, Sarver was hesitant to make another splashy expenditure after committing to front the $400 million purchase of the franchise and then signing Nash and Quentin Richardson to long-term deals worth a combined $110 million.
The Suns offered Johnson a six-year deal in the $60 million range this summer, some $30 million less than he's eligible to receive from his current team. Hoping for significantly more after averaging 17.1 points and shooting 48 percent on 3-pointers to help Phoenix win a stunning 62 games and advance to the Western Conference finals, Johnson and agent Arn Tellem quickly entered into negotiations with the Hawks.
According to sources close to the situation, Johnson is also unhappy with what he perceives as his standing as a "fourth wheel" behind the All-Star trio of Nash, Amare Stoudemire and Marion. Besides the opportunity to be the star man on its youthful roster, Atlanta is offering as much as the rules allow without holding Johnson's Larry Bird rights -- a frontloaded five-year deal worth an estimated $70 million, with an up-front payment as high as $20 million in Year 1.
The Hawks have been planning for weeks to sign Johnson to an offer sheet as soon as the leaguewide moratorium on free-agent signings is lifted. That day, originally scheduled for July 22, is expected to come Tuesday.
The Suns, who would have seven days to match an offer sheet, have consistently said they intend to do just that, and NBA front-office sources reiterated Friday that Phoenix hasn't changed its stance.
Even Johnson, when asked to describe the Suns' reaction to his request to be set free, said: "They say they're going to match."
Phoenix chairman Jerry Colangelo and team president Bryan Colangelo delivered that message to Tellem in a July 9 meeting during a summer-league game in Las Vegas. To increase its matching flexibility, Phoenix agreed Wednesday to trade center Jake Voskuhl to Charlotte and thus remove nearly $2 million from next season's payroll.
It remains to be seen whether Johnson will indeed sign with the Hawks as soon the moratorium ends. If he is intent on going to Atlanta, he and Tellem could choose to hold off on signing the offer sheet in an attempt to draw an improved contract offer out of the Suns or to convince the Suns to engage Atlanta in sign-and-trade talks.
A sign-and-trade could ultimately appeal to the Suns as well, if they decide over the weekend that Johnson's let-me-go plea is more than a mere statement of frustration with negotiations. It's unlikely they would be willing to lose one of their prized assets without compensation, even if management changes course and determines that it's best to sever ties with a player who says he wants to leave.
Johnson, though, insists that his play and commitment to the Suns wouldn't be affected if a signed Hawks offer sheet results in a return to the desert.
"I would come back and work as hard as I ever have," Johnson said. "If they match, all this stuff is behind me from that minute on. I hope everybody [in Phoenix] puts everything behind them, too."
The prospect of Johnson switching teams made Friday's inaugural Steve Nash Foundation Charity Classic perhaps the last time Nash, Marion and Johnson will play together as teammates. Stoudemire was also scheduled to play but joined Philadelphia's Allen Iverson as a late withdrawal.
"I'm really trying not to think about that," Nash said. "No one wants us to keep Joe more than I do. I've been talking to him and trying to persuade him to stay, because we really have a special thing going in Phoenix, but I want whatever he feels is best for him."
Nash added that Johnson's new public stance doesn't change how much his teammates want him to stay, repeating his oft-cited belief that Johnson's shooting and ballhandling skills are as important to the Suns' success as Nash's chemistry with finishers Stoudemire and Marion.
Marion echoed that, saying: "I understand that this is a business and everybody's got to do [what's best] for their family, but we're hoping Joe don't need nothing more than a Suns jersey next year."
"They're in my ear every five minutes," Johnson said with a laugh, referring to persistent lobbying from Nash and Marion.
Some league executives have privately questioned whether the Suns would indeed match a max offer sheet to Johnson, given Sarver's stated aversion to letting his annual payroll stray far beyond $50 million. With Johnson earning an average annual wage of $12 million and Stoudemire soon to receive a maximum contract extension that would kick in starting with the 2006-07 season, Phoenix would be in the rare position of carrying four players who earn roughly $50 million by themselves.
If Johnson winds up with the Hawks, Nash plans to intensify his efforts to recruit Michael Finley of the Dallas Mavericks as a replacement. Unless the Mavericks can trade Finley first, in hopes of keeping Finley out of the Western Conference, they are expected to use the new amnesty clause to release the 32-year-old and spare themselves from nearly $52 million in luxury-tax payments.
The Hawks, dating to last summer, have had no success in their high-dollar attempts to land a prominent restricted free agent. Yet they remain quietly hopeful that they'll soon be able to play Johnson as a point guard should they finally score this time.
Johnson's playmaking ability is viewed by scouts as a critical component to the Suns' success. Phoenix doesn't have another dependable ballhandler to punish opponents who try to force the ball out of Nash's hands.
"I love the idea," Johnson said. "I'd love that, having the ball in my hands. I think I'm a great shooter, but that's where I think I'm most effective, making decisions."
Last edited by timvp; 07-29-2005 at 11:53 PM.
According to sources close to the situation, Johnson is also unhappy with what he perceives as his standing as a "fourth wheel"
I posted a link in the NBA forum.
I'm so tired of that, I think his family will be ok regardless of whether he is making ten or fourteen MILLION dollars a year.....
Interesting. I guess that is good he wants to leave because he is one of their best players.
How do you match that big a contract when the player doesn't want to play for you?
[QUOTE=King]Star guard asks Phoenix to let him go
By Marc Stein
ESPN.com
TORONTO --... Restricted free agent Joe Johnson, .......
"I did tell them that."
If he is intent on going to Atlanta, he.... could choose to hold off on signing the offer sheet in an attempt to draw an improved contract offer out of the Suns or to convince the Suns to engage Atlanta in sign-and-trade talks.
QUOTE]
I hope he puts it to the Suns, however if Michael Finley becomes his replacement I think everyone Wins, including the SPURS
I'll agree that greed happens to often, but in this case if He is unhappy
with his "JOB" and can get more money and find happiness than he should move on. but from a "Winner" to a "loser" of an organization? Hard Choice
I won't pretend I'm not devastated by this news, even with the prior rumors from the media. But, let's not overblow the situation.
Johnson is telling ESPN of old news. It's not like Johnson is telling them this today. This is as old as the Atlanta rumors. Gambo of AZcentral reported this over two weeks ago.
Also, it's not like he's bent to leave town.
Note: "I would come back and work as hard as I ever have," Johnson said. "If they match, all this stuff is behind me from that minute on. I hope everybody [in Phoenix] puts everything behind them, too."
He wants his money and I can't fault him for that. Sarvar wouldn't dole out the extra 5 million last season to meet JJ's 50 million request, telling JJ to "Go out and make your money"... Well, he did and it's the Suns own fault he's not already locked up for 8-per.
The Suns will match. They've known of this for weeks and have still done the necessaries to both say they'll match, then follow through.
Effin ego...
eg. ELTON BRAND .... LA CLIPPERS
Elton Brand I don't believe ever said not to match, it was Odom that did.
And Elton Brand is the superstar for that team. Not to mention the Clippers had probably never before paid out a max deal, and the clips always have money to spend.
You don't let Brand go.
With JJ, he's the third option on the team, if he gets the max then that'll be three players getting the max, Nash, Amare, JJ. They'd be screwed for the future.
Also, JJ is someone who doesn't deserve the max nor earned it. He's Jaren Jackson in the making.
marion, amare, JJ would have the max. Nash is just below it.
That's three then without JJ.
Nash makes just below but still high enough.
I don't think the Suns are stupid enough to lock themselves into four big money contracts, esp, if last season was a fluke.
a frontloaded five-year deal worth an estimated $70 million,ouch
Um, no. Joe has way more skills that Jaren could dream of. He's longer, quicker, has better handles and vision, and is a much better shooter. Marion is the one who won't be earning his money. He's a great rebounder and a good spot up shooter. That's it. Hardly worth a MAX deal.Also, JJ is someone who doesn't deserve the max nor earned it. He's Jaren Jackson in the making.
only way for him to make allstar team to play in the east
hahahahhaha, the suns are already going to be broke if they lose JJ
suns season is
*insert mouse explosion picture*
TheTruth is u don't.
Pure posturing for the contract talks.
Suns will match and JJ will be back. This doesn't change anything.
JJ is their second best player. At least second most talented.
Nash and Marion are great veterans but by the time they are gone Amare and JJ will be in their prime.
Most NBA players are greedy bas s. Why not take less money to play for the better team unless you're not about winning?
Most NBA players are greedy bas s. Why not take less money to play for the better team unless you're not about winning? Most NBA players nowadays are just out for themselves and that is what turns a lot of casual fans away from the NBA.
Have to agree with JM; this isn't really new news, but i'd question the timing of it. Almost like ESPN has a new sitcom coming out, "Desperate NBA players". The DRAMA!!
Anyway if JoJo was bent on leaving, which would suck ass, then the Suns must work out a sign and trade. No matter what JoJo has said if Sarver lets him go for free he'll be fried by the media and fans.
Oh yeah, this reminds me of former Sun that had a similar situation and ended up regretting it... McDyess. A young inexperienced pussy.
Once again the desire for money may be clouding a player's judgement.
It doesn't take a genius to see that with Joe Johnson the team has one of the best 4 starters in the league.
The Suns are a top contender for the championship and why that wouldn't be worth staying is beyond me. Is that not the ultimate goal of an NBA player?
If Joe Johnson leaves.
The Suns come back to the pack, and the western conference gets a little easier for the Spurs.
Sonics turn into a lottery team adios
Suns lose Johnson and Quentin Richardson in exchange for Kurt Thomas adios
Keep it up NBA, make it easier for numero quattro.
The Suns will match and I hope Joe lives up to his word and puts this behind him and gets ready to bring the championship to Phoenix!!!
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