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DMC with the greatest reality check/truth bomb of the season
As a Spurs fan, here's what you have:
1. Best coach in the league: Go to the forum for any other team in the league, you'll find at least one thread called "I wish we had coach Pop". That's because Pop has done more with less, longer and better than any coach in the history of the game. Sure there are more highly decorated coaches, but they've had the benefit of assembled talent that far surpasses what the Spurs have had. Other than Phil Jackson who had the lion's share of basketball talent in the league in the past 25 years or so including the GOAT and the most dominant paint presence since Wilt, no one has had more success than coach Pop. Great players don't flock to San Antonio, except in the post season to play against the Spurs. You could have Avery Johnson or Mike D'Antoni running some hybrid junk system and ting on team chemistry. Instead you have the most respected face in the coaching game who's still coaching.
2. A 37 year old power forward who hasn't embarrassed you with his antics off the court or on the court. Couple that with being the greatest PF of all time, and top 3 PF in the game today especially if you consider the defensive end as well (which you must) and you have a serviceable big man that can give you 30 minutes a night, and if you think Tim couldn't have pulled 20 million a season for the next two years you're wrong. He just didn't. You decide why. You could have a Kevin Love who gives you huge offensive numbers but doesn't play a lick of defense, and your entire season would be spent in the trade and lottery threads.
3. One of the craftiest point guards in the league, and the best PG the Spurs have ever had. He's got his niche and it's scoring the ball. He's also got his flaws and that's court vision and developing trust in his teammates, but he will put his body on the line time in and time out to get to score or get to the line. He's the closest thing the Spurs have to a tabloid guy, and that's because he got inadvertently hit in the face with broken glass from an altercation he wasn't even involved in. Sure he has history that's not pretty with Brent, a former teammate, but that's about the depth of the drama for the entire roster. You could have Collison or Harris, playing a cheap, bas ized version of Parker/Rondo, and you'd probably be 15 - 20 games a year poorer. Sounds like a lot, but Tony is the engine for the team. There's no one else who can run it as easily.
4. You have an Argentinian guy name Manu who could still be a starter for any team in the league but he's accepted a 6th man role for almost his entire NBA career. He's not perfect, and he's aged as well, but compare him to what you could have as the 6th man. You could have a Nick Young, taking 9 threes a game and digging a deeper hole instead of filling it. He's the main reason the Spurs have the 2nd best bench in the league.
5. You have the 2nd best bench in the league. Forget the talk about the "plug and play" system. That's all bull . You have to have guys who can do what you need them to do, and who will do it. You have to have the front office talent to recognize those guys out of thousands of players in the world, and who can get those guys to come to your team, despite all naysayers. You have to be able to develop raw talent to be an asset to your team. You have to be able to get that one piece of gold from that huge chunk of otherwise useless rock, the same gold other teams couldn't mine. You have that ability and you've had it for 15 years. Don't take it for granted that it's your birthright. Your bench beat a 2nd round playoff team a couple nights ago, on their home floor.
6. You've never missed a playoffs, probably in your time as a Spurs fan. Some of you have, if you've been around a long time, but you've not missed many. You've always had a post season to discuss, good or bad, you've had it. Your team has been there so often that they are ignored by the media just as the rising of the sun isn't reported as "news". Still, you lament about the lack of coverage you get, as if you'd prefer to miss a few post seasons, get a good lottery pick, another coach who gets the CotY award for going from a 15 win season to a 50 win season again just to see him fired a couple years later ala Avery Johnson.
7. You've ushered in and out the Lakers era, and you've introduced the King to the Finals in the proper manner. You showed him again, years later, that the same core could still take his super "not one, not two..." team to a nervous hair thin finish. (2014 edit) *You ushered his ass back to Cleveland in grand fashion*. All this with the same anchor and the same captain. You did this against all pundit prediction, since you've been dismissed for at least 4 years as a serious contender, every year you're too old again.
You've had it all. It's going to end sooner or later, but you've had it all.
Last edited by DMC; 08-23-2014 at 11:45 AM.
DMC with the greatest reality check/truth bomb of the season
the goods.
it's sad someone has to write this when we're sitting on a 21-6 record
Now you have it, now you don't
Don't poke the zombie. Just when the Spurs are thought dead...they zombie up and keep coming.
What's sad is reminiscing about the past constantly...
What matters is to know is we have a contender or not, Pop wants to know as well that's why he played a short rotation...
Yeah, it's fun to beat bad teams badly then, lose to quality ones. It really helps to put that 21-6 record into perspective.
I just posted about certain fans not experiencing misery like some of the old folks with their team when they sucked.
Sure they bash players, coaches etc now when they seemingly have it all but once that's all over they're sure to realize what they've had and begin to regret and see things in a more appreciative way that they didn't before.
Good post.
0-6 against playoff teams. The 21 W totally outweighed by the losses.
10/10 great thread tbh.
Ha, Gay.
not good enough. When your talent, coaching, and FO are supposedly that good, you do everything you can to maximize these:As a Spurs fan, here's what you have:
1. Best coach in the league: Go to the forum for any other team in the league, you'll find at least one thread called "I wish we had coach Pop". That's because Pop has done more with less, longer and better than any coach in the history of the game. Sure there are more highly decorated coaches, but they've had the benefit of assembled talent that far surpasses what the Spurs have had. Other than Phil Jackson who had the lion's share of basketball talent in the league in the past 25 years or so including the GOAT and the most dominant paint presence since Wilt, no one has had more success than coach Pop. Great players don't flock to San Antonio, except in the post season to play against the Spurs. You could have Avery Johnson or Mike D'Antoni running some hybrid junk system and ting on team chemistry. Instead you have the most respected face in the coaching game who's still coaching.
2. A 37 year old power forward who hasn't embarrassed you with his antics off the court or on the court. Couple that with being the greatest PF of all time, and top 3 PF in the game today especially if you consider the defensive end as well (which you must) and you have a serviceable big man that can give you 30 minutes a night, and if you think Tim couldn't have pulled 20 million a season for the next two years you're wrong. He just didn't. You decide why. You could have a Kevin Love who gives you huge offensive numbers but doesn't play a lick of defense, and your entire season would be spent in the trade and lottery threads.
3. One of the craftiest point guards in the league, and the best PG the Spurs have ever had. He's got his niche and it's scoring the ball. He's also got his flaws and that's court vision and developing trust in his teammates, but he will put his body on the line time in and time out to get to score or get to the line. He's the closest thing the Spurs have to a tabloid guy, and that's because he got inadvertently hit in the face with broken glass from an altercation he wasn't even involved in. Sure he has history that's not pretty with Brent, a former teammate, but that's about the depth of the drama for the entire roster. You could have Collison or Harris, playing a cheap, bas ized version of Parker/Rondo, and you'd probably be 15 - 20 games a year poorer. Sounds like a lot, but Tony is the engine for the team. There's no one else who can run it as easily.
4. You have an Argentinian guy name Manu who could still be a starter for any team in the league but he's accepted a 6th man role for almost his entire NBA career. He's not perfect, and he's aged as well, but compare him to what you could have as the 6th man. You could have a Nick Young, taking 9 threes a game and digging a deeper hole instead of filling it. He's the main reason the Spurs have the 2nd best bench in the league.
5. You have the 2nd best bench in the league. Forget the talk about the "plug and play" system. That's all bull . You have to have guys who can do what you need them to do, and who will do it. You have to have the front office talent to recognize those guys out of thousands of players in the world, and who can get those guys to come to your team, despite all naysayers. You have to be able to develop raw talent to be an asset to your team. You have to be able to get that one piece of gold from that huge chunk of otherwise useless rock, the same gold other teams couldn't mine. You have that ability and you've had it for 15 years. Don't take it for granted that it's your birthright. Your bench beat a 2nd round playoff team a couple nights ago, on their home floor.
6. You've never missed a playoffs, probably in your time as a Spurs fan. Some of you have, if you've been around a long time, but you've not missed many. You've always had a post season to discuss, good or bad, you've had it. Your team has been there so often that they are ignored by the media just as the rising of the sun isn't reported as "news". Still, you lament about the lack of coverage you get, as if you'd prefer to miss a few post seasons, get a good lottery pick, another coach who gets the CotY award for going from a 15 win season to a 50 win season again just to see him fired a couple years later ala Avery Johnson.
7. You've ushered in and out the Lakers era, and you've introduced the King to the Finals in the proper manner. You showed him again, years later, that the same core could still take his super "not one, not two..." team to a nervous hair thin finish. All this with the same anchor and the same captain. You did this against all pundit prediction, since you've been dismissed for at least 4 years as a serious contender, every year you're too old again.
You've had it all. It's going to end sooner or later, but you've had it all.
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im waiting...
But, but...
not really.
1. @ Portland - we lose to portland just about every year at portland whether they're bad or good. besides, it was the third game of the season, a b2b on the road, and portland's first home game. we lose that game 10/10.
2. @ OKC - good teams win games. they were at home. they won. plain and simple.
3. vs. Houston - second half of a b2b. same for houston, but we had to travel from orlando > san antonio. where as houston played at home the first game, which is a 20 minute walk away from san antonio. houston is decent, but not championship material. no b2b in playoffs, not worried. we'll get to see a rematch on christmas day.
4. vs. Pacers - good team. they beat us. it happens.
5. @ Clippers - parker got hurt, didn't play the rest of the game. without our best player and fourth quarter guy, did anyone expect us to pull a win out here?
6. vs. OKC - no leonard, and parker's first game back in which he looked rusty as . chimpbrook was hitting his jumpers making him unstoppable. we should've got blown out by 30 but somehow we stayed in the game for most of it.
i wonder if people would be slitting their wrists this badly if we had won the finals?
Sure, we've won it 4 times.
not good enough. When your talent, coaching, and FO are supposedly that good, you do everything you can to maximize these:
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im waiting...
^^^^^^^^^^^
So you'd rather be 6-21?
They are considered to be that good because of their production. it's not speculation. 3 rings in 4 Finals appearances is maximizing a 57th and a 28th overall pick, imo.not good enough. When your talent, coaching, and FO are supposedly that good, you do everything you can to maximize these:
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im waiting...
1. Any coach in the NBA would be as good as Pop if they had such a tremendous team built in the early 2000s. Spurs were a lucky to get Tim Duncan in the draft. If that didn't happen, there wouldn't be nearly as many trophies on display at the AT&T Center, with or without Popovich.
2. Tim Duncan's performance this year has staggered. We know he's old and can't expect much of him. He's missed so many chip shots a la Game 7 this year that it's getting somewhat worrying.
3. Parker has problems against guards of the West. Westbrook showed that last night, he's more athletic and way more powerful. Spurs were just lucky for the Westbrook injury last post-season.
4. Manu has been the bright spot this season so far. But since you have brought up the past in your post, I will too. He cost us the Finals in 2013. Easy as that.
5. 2nd best bench in the League? We have people CONSTANTLY bashing "Errors", Bonner, Joseph, Nando. They're wanting to give Thomas a chance because the team needs help. There's no real back up SF at all.
6. It's true, it's been a while since the Spurs missed the playoffs. But, I'm sure most people here would rather miss the playoffs and hope for a high pick than have 2011 with Memphis ting on the Spurs all over again..
Have fun this season, because in a year or two the Spurs will be the next Bobcats/Jazz. No one's cliff-jumping, that's just how it is. Lakers went that way, Celtics as well. Just the rule of the game.
Good post tbh. Spurfan is a very spoiled base, it's like people forget that the Spurs have more les than every single team in the NBA except for the Celtics, Lakers, and Bulls. The first two have so many les for obvious reasons and Chicago because they had the GOAT. Spurfan doesn't realize how insanely hard it is to win multiple les in the NBA when you're not the Lakers and Celtics.
That being said, it is rather concerning to see the Spurs losing to every decent team. But still, tbe gnsf trying to rationalize the losses makes some good points. Houston will get raped by the Spurs in the playoffs, not even worried about that. Indiana is a great team and the best defensive team in the league, losing to them is nothing to be ashamed of or cliff jumping over. The game @ OKC didn't surprise me and the Clips game along with yesterday's, you had a different top 3 player out for both of those so it's not some kind of embarrassment to lose to the upper tier of teams in the league without your best players on the floor. The positives are Duncan is rounding into form, Ginobili has been playing much better ball this year than last, Parker is obviously coasting and trying not to punish his body too much, Beli is the truth, Diaw is playing with a purpose, and Mills has been a wonderful surprise this season. Leonard needs to progress a little more but I'm not too worried about that yet. The only one bothering me is Green, but he is a streaky son of a and you know he's going to get hot at some point for a stretch, so we have to hope it's an important one.
Despite that the Spurs are still coasting at 21-6. I'll be more worried if the Spurs end the season going 0-4 against every good West team and 0-2 against every good East team. But they still haven't played as good as they can. Maybe I'm off but I truly believe most of them are eying the playoffs and a chance at redemption. The regular season is boring.
Great read.
We won't truly appreciate what we have had over the past 20 years with this team until this spurs era is over.
Thank you, DMC. Great write-up.
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