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    The anti-science, anti-intellectual, low-information, right-to-work-for-less, rural, ignorant, "Christian", self-described "Party of Stupid".

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    I'm pretty sure the majority of the country rejects evolution, it's not just Republicans who are re ed on this issue.

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    I'm pretty sure the majority of the country rejects evolution, it's not just Republicans who are re ed on this issue.
    yep, you're obviously a denier, anti-fact.

    maybe the geographic majority, the poor, rural, ignorant Bible-thumping, evagelical, preacher-duped counties, but multiple polls, like Gallup, etc, OVER THE YEARS, have shown a numeric majority to believe in evolution, and that majority is urban, suburban population centers, not rural. do you have any "poll facts" (no Rasmussen polls) to support your "pretty sure" wishful thinking.

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    yep, you're obviously a denier, anti-fact.

    maybe the geographic majority, the poor, rural, ignorant Bible-thumping, evagelical, preacher-duped counties, but multiple polls, like Gallup, etc, OVER THE YEARS, have shown a numeric majority to believe in evolution, and that majority is urban, suburban population centers, not rural. do you have any "poll facts" (no Rasmussen polls) to support your "pretty sure" wishful thinking.
    Yes, I'm a denier of evolution. That's definitely why I called people who deny evolution "re ed on the issue". I was calling myself re ed.

    Here are my poll facts (I don't count the people who say humans evolved "with god guiding" as believers in evolution):
    http://www.gallup.com/poll/21814/evo...nt-design.aspx

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    Yes, I'm a denier of evolution. That's definitely why I called people who deny evolution "re ed on the issue". I was calling myself re ed.

    Here are my poll facts (I don't count the people who say humans evolved "with god guiding" as believers in evolution):
    http://www.gallup.com/poll/21814/evo...nt-design.aspx
    So your "majority" that denies evolution, in the Gallup graph, is 15%.

    The "God added value (soul)"-to-evolution group is what I think was, and still is taught in Catholic schools, the CC trying to be scientific but it has to slip God in somewhere.

    Evolution is evolution, God or no God, esp opposite the God-dropped-humans-as-is-on-earth-6000-years-ago TINY MINORITY.

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    So your "majority" that denies evolution, in the Gallup graph, is 15%.

    The "God added value (soul)"-to-evolution group is what I think was, and still is taught in Catholic schools, the CC trying to be scientific but it has to slip God in somewhere.

    Evolution is evolution, God or no God, esp opposite the God-dropped-humans-as-is-on-earth-6000-years-ago TINY MINORITY.
    do you know how to read? The poll says 46% believe god created humans (creationism) and 32% believe god "guided" the evolution process (intelligent design)

    That 15% TINY MINORITY you're talking about is the group that believes in a godless evolution. You and I are in the tiny minority, not the bible thumpers.

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    Oh great another got boutons style poster in the political forum.

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    Nye is going to embarrass a creationist in February.

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    do you know how to read? The poll says 46% believe god created humans (creationism) and 32% believe god "guided" the evolution process (intelligent design)

    That 15% TINY MINORITY you're talking about is the group that believes in a godless evolution. You and I are in the tiny minority, not the bible thumpers.
    I wouldn't include ID'ers as evolution deniers; maybe evolution-enhancers? Meaning they are adding to it with non-scientific stuff.

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    Yes, I'm a denier of evolution. That's definitely why I called people who deny evolution "re ed on the issue". I was calling myself re ed.



    well done chap

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    do you know how to read? The poll says 46% believe god created humans (creationism) and 32% believe god "guided" the evolution process (intelligent design)

    That 15% TINY MINORITY you're talking about is the group that believes in a godless evolution. You and I are in the tiny minority, not the bible thumpers.
    guided/intervention, for Catholics, is simply God intervening in the biological evolution to add the soul without messing with the biology. ID is totally different, and is pushed by creationist/new earth ers as more "intelligent" "credible" idea than Genesis style creationism.

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    I would like to see the exact poll. If it was a binary choice, then most republicans will choose that God had some design. I'm pretty sure that if asked properly, that most republicans would have said that both the evolution and creation exists. That they are not mutually exclusive.

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    "both the evolution and creation exists. That they are not mutually exclusive."

    maybe for some flavor of Bible thumper, but biological evolution happens with or without supernatural intervention, no wibbly wobbly "both"


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    "both the evolution and creation exists. That they are not mutually exclusive."

    maybe for some flavor of Bible thumper, but biological evolution happens with or without supernatural intervention, no wibbly wobbly "both"

    You didn't understand my response, did you. I'll bet people had to choose one or the other, with no choice to select both. Christians will then pick creation over evolution, and I'm sure that was the intent of the poll creators.

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    I would like to see the exact poll. If it was a binary choice, then most republicans will choose that God had some design. I'm pretty sure that if asked properly, that most republicans would have said that both the evolution and creation exists. That they are not mutually exclusive.
    http://www.pewforum.org/2013/12/30/p...man-evolution/

    It was a choice between:
    “humans and other living things have evolved over time”
    or
    “humans and other living things have existed in their present form since the beginning of time”

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    "Christians will then pick creation over evolution"

    every single Christian?

    every stupid, ignorant creationist Christian would, esp the militantly politicized American ones, but that doesn't cover all Christians.



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    http://www.pewforum.org/2013/12/30/p...man-evolution/

    It was a choice between:
    “humans and other living things have evolved over time”
    or
    “humans and other living things have existed in their present form since the beginning of time”
    That doesn't show the questions... or results to the questions...

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    That doesn't show the questions... or results to the questions...

    The question was "Which of the following statements most closely reflects your beliefs?" Or something similar. The exact wording is not relevant. From the two options you can see that there is no way to believe both of those statements are true. The results are at the link.

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    The more I know and learn it's really difficult to believe that there is not SOME higher power at work here. I don't adhere to any of the established religions but seriously...this world and this universe can't be just some random product of cosmic soup coming together.

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    The more I know and learn it's really difficult to believe that there is not SOME higher power at work here. I don't adhere to any of the established religions but seriously...this world and this universe can't be just some random product of cosmic soup coming together.
    I agree, but the Bible's cosmology sucks.

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    I'm skeeered.

    Boo and I agree on something.

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    I was raised Catholic and to believe in evolution. It was always presented in my education that the 'soul' part of humanity was the god part and that the evolution itself was Darwinian. They just never mentioned when souls got into the evolutionary picture as an exclusively human feature.

    I was also taught that biblical stories of Adan and Eve were stories that made it easier for ancient peoples to understand their relationship to god. Frankly, it always worked for me. B_D is right about biblical cosmology, but remember that it was written by ancients for ancients.

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    The more I know and learn it's really difficult to believe that there is not SOME higher power at work here. I don't adhere to any of the established religions but seriously...this world and this universe can't be just some random product of cosmic soup coming together.
    I don't know. Human existence as we know it so far is a mere fart (if that) in the universe's space and lifetime.

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    The question was "Which of the following statements most closely reflects your beliefs?" Or something similar. The exact wording is not relevant. From the two options you can see that there is no way to believe both of those statements are true. The results are at the link.
    Exact wording is relevant. I do not accept paraphrasing in such instances.

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