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The stats above doesn't show how many three's kawhi has passed up. Try again.
The second player launches twice as many 3s while Kawhi passes them up on the regular which explains the FG difference, but regardless you have Kawhi's ceiling so stop asking for him to become Paul George or something...
The stats above doesn't show how many three's kawhi has passed up. Try again.
The second player is Batum fyi.
Kawhi Leonard is Batum with worse passing and better rebounding, bar none, he doesn't need more shots and wouldn't get them on another contender...
your stats proved nothing..
The truth about Kawhi is that he is having his best year as a Spur.
And to know if Kawhi is passive or just not very involved in Spurs offense, there are a relatively good stats with points scored per half court touch.
This stat for Spurs players:
Splitter: 0.43
Duncan: 0.40
Leonard: 0.38
Belinelli: 0.37
Bonner: 0.36
Diaw: 0.34
Ginobili: 0.34
Green: 0.31
Parker: 0.26
Mills: 0.26
Ayres: 0.25
This stat, even if it isn't perfect, hint that the main reason why Kawhi isn't scoring more is that he doesn't receive enough offensive touches.
Kawhi isn't a spot up shooter, never has been, not even in college. I don't even know why people compare George/Batum/Whoever to Leonard, they play the same position and that's it, their games are completely different.
At 6'7 230 he's already one of the biggest, strongest players at his position, too quick for PF's to guard, too strong for most SF's to defend. He's money in the post, or in the paint, his jumper isn't too bad either. His PG refuses to pass him the ball, his teammates won't even set screens for him, and his coach isn't doing about it.
stop droppiing truth bombs bro..
It's kawhi's fault cause he's not aggressive enough.
Seriously, people that expect kawhi to be as aggressive as a SG in Pop's system..SMH.
Kawhi doesn't have much option to be aggresive..it's either he breaks the system or stay within the system. He knows it, RJ knew it....
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No kidding! Leonard is not Paul George? Damn it!
At least he's George Paul (Mayers)??
The comparisons between two players who play two entirely different roles in their team systems are always meaningless, even stupid.
If I add other stats which don't tell the whole story, it keeps getting worse, but...
http://www.poundingtherock.com/2014/...tm_source=t.co
Looking at these two sets of numbers, the differences aren't abysmal with respect to the two most valuable young stars of the league like George and Hayward.
I think these stats more accurately reflect the developments of those guys in their first three seasons.
Kawhi is a beta right now, when he touches the ball he needs to create regardless of the consequences
It is hard to compare kawhi to paul george or any other star player because he does get the same amount of play as them.. You will see his growth/impact when play off start because the rotation decrease which will result to more plays for Kawhi....
He's 4th option. Of course he's beta.
i agree. i don't know if he resigns with us the way he's underused. i don't see why he would. popovich is a guy that does things his way regardless if they are right or wrong, he's not gonna change for anyone.
Pretty much. He's a RFA, but simple words can do the trick..Who knows I mean even some sort of locker room problem ( highly unlikely) and the kid is out. The Kid doesn't look motivated at all out there and Judging on how he plays in the offensive end, it's like he always assumes the ball is only going to him when there is a set play wherein he needs to pass the ball..
He's being used more now than last year but the eye test suggest, the kid isn't looking for the ball at all this year..Last year he did. Seems like he's frustrated about something.
He's taking more shots this year. He's attacking from the perimeter more this year. Where do you people get this stuff?
Tim and Manu aren't playing more than this year and maybe next. Kawhi will be no worse than option #2 then.
I said he gets the ball more this year than last year.
But there's a huge difference in body language with kawhi IMO..Last year even without touches, the kid looked energetic. This year, he looks frustrated after a night of 5-6 or 6-8..Kid just doesn't look happy out there sometimes.
I'm sure he isn't as evidence with his interview.
He's 21. Everything seems to take forever at that age. Tonight was his 162nd game. Even though it's his 3rd season, he's really only played about 2 season's worth of games, what with the lockout and missing time last year. He'll just have to wait another year or so, and the Spurs have him under contractual control this year and next, with a fifth year option, to boot. Things will be better for him by then.
For the record, i think pop does put in effort to the guy going.
Today, he straight out got benched for passing instead of posting up Ridunour..I think Sean Marks was telling him that.
I'm not sure if anyone noticed.
The problem is the offense encourages him to be beta because the SF is supposed to sit at the corner and just wait. He's probably getting mixed signals on playing the offense and also being told to be more aggressive. This is more evident when Parker is playing because he dominates the basketball so much. When Parker isn't in the lineup there's a lot more movement and you see that Kawhi's more likely to be aggressive (still needs to be more assertive but there's definitely a difference).
Significantly more touches (like you want to improve the offense of young player)? I don't think so.
IMO developing offensive skills requires learning progression that starts with involving the young guy- even if he develops perfect offense in practices, he needs have the opportunity to execute during games-.
When Spurs trade Hill for Leonard, they were looking for a unique set of Kawhi's skills on both ends, because in college he had the ability to run pick-&-roll (even he wasn't the primary ball handler of Aztecs), play hard in low post (he was an hybrid between SF and PF), really good rebounder, great defender, the whole package -of course, minus corner 3-point shooter-.
You might think it's vital for the Spurs to develop Kawhi in the regular season with a view to playoffs but...you could be wrong.
Last edited by wildchild; 01-20-2014 at 03:06 AM.
Kawhi showed everyone what he is capable in last year's playoff. But during the season, the Spurs strictly run their system, and unfortunately, that means Kawhi isn't going to get many touches. I guarantee you, towards the end of the season, Pop will start trying to exploit matchups more than just strictly running the Spurs system, night in and night out.
That is how the Spurs have made it to the WCF and the Finals the past two years. Once Duncan and Manu are gone, probably by next year, this will be Kawhi's team and at that point he will have a different role throughout the season for the Spurs. You just need to look at the Spurs/GSW game this year to see what Kawhi role will be in the future.
The team will never be Kawhi's team. He's not good enough on offense to carry a team. If the Spurs drop Manu and Tim, they will have to pick up a decent free agent or be a bubble team.
KL is often too passive on offense…don't know why that is. You can't say its because of Parker, Pop or the system the Spurs run. , look at Patty Mills with his chucking up shots left and right. He gets the ball enough to be able to do something with it besides passing it back to Parker or Green for a brick.
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