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I would be nice to have a Speedy Claxton, Beno Udrih, or Jacque Vaughn these days, IMO. Or Brent Barry.
I think it's been clear that Patty has done well in the regular season, but I must admit that I'm a little hesitant about him in the playoffs. He takes almost one shot every two minutes and he's as trigger-happy as Gary Neal on a bad night. I just worry that once teams begin locking down on defense in the playoffs and Patty can't get open jump shots, things might start heading south for him. If he isn't scoring, he's pretty useless, IMO.
Thoughts?
Unfortunately, our other options aren't good, either. I don't believe Cojo or Nando have what it takes, so Patty is probably the best option.
I would be nice to have a Speedy Claxton, Beno Udrih, or Jacque Vaughn these days, IMO. Or Brent Barry.
He's improved a lot defensively. He still gets lost at times, but his on-ball defense has been pretty solid this year. He's also far more consistent than Neal in terms of scoring. Gary Neal had a 51.2 TS% last year with us, which was below the league-average. Patty Mills has a 59.2 TS%, which is great.
I agree that we should be hesitant about relying on him to be our bench scorer...but we have Belinelli, Ginobili, and Diaw as well. We don't NEED Mills to do a ton of scoring. As long as he doesn't chuck us out of games (which I don't think he'll do), he'll be fine. He's certainly better than De Colo/Joseph. I feel more comfortable with our backup PG situation after seeing Mills's performance this year.
More of this 'Patty won't perform in the playoffs' nonsense. If he's able to score 26 points against the US Olympic team, which typically consists of the best players in the NBA (and whose defense is notches above the average playoff team), then chances are he's also capable of scoring in the playoffs.
What can he contribute to the team if he's not scoring? He's, by far, the fastest player on the team, so whenever he's on the court, the Spurs' immediately play at a faster pace, which is a nice contrast to the way that Parker plays. Being a threat from deep means Patty keeps the defense honest even when he isn't having a great night on the offensive end. He's also a pesky defender and a much improved passer. He's not the one-dimensional player that we saw last season (instant offense, no play making and subpar defense). Patty's made noticeable improvements in all facets of his game.
I think he throws so much, because it has the freedom and the order of pop to throw much
You're an idiot. One of those already EPIC FAILED in the playoffs for us, and three of them are like in their 40s.
If his offense stays the way it's been he'll be a nice spark on the bench, Manu will handle the ball for the 2nd unit so Mills won't have to worry too much about decision making but he will have to play big and aggressive on defense because the west is full of taller PG's who can rise above.
I don't know, but I'm willing to give it a shot. Outside of the LA series, Joseph was dreadful. He couldn't take the ball down court, religiously got caught in traps, was scared to shoot, and forced Manu to really do much of the PG work.. which he is not accustomed to. We have seen that even bench players that do not get much burn in the regular season can come up huge in playoff games when let loose if they are a good shooter (I.E Mike Miller; Gary Neal), which Mills definitely is.
At most he gets the same amount of minutes Cojo received last year. So yeah, I think he will..A solid 5-8 minutes from Patty would be great..
Vaughn NO, Beno got better when he left the team but lost all confidence here in 05 Finals and got destroyed (I would take him now though). THE OTHER two YES! I wish Ford never got hurt and his career ended because he could have been a pretty good backup for us IMO.LOL if he meant now then no as you said the are all older now. I hope he meant now as they were then. Beno though naw and Vaughn NO, Vaughn was not that good here.
He'll be fine. And even if he has an off night, our bench is loaded with guys who can create a spark offensively.
I'd be less worried about him if Splitter came off the bench, tbh..
Patty/Beli/Manu is one of the worst defensive trios in the league, and although opposing benches probably aren't good enough to exploit them defensively, I would still feel better if Splitter was playing with them to aid the defense, tbh..
This is why I want Splitter to come off the bench and Diaw to start. It just seems to make sense both for the starting and bench lineups.
Starters get Diaw, who doesn't necessarily clog up the lane for Duncan/Leonard to operate in the post. He spaces the floor better and can guard a larger percentage of PFs compared to Splitter.
Bench gets Splitter, who is a legitimate rim protector/interior defender and will immediately bring a boost to the defense. The bench already has plenty of scoring threats between Mills/Manu/Belinelli...I'd rather sacrifice some bench scoring by moving Diaw to the starting lineup and improve the defense.
Splitter and Ayres on the floor at the same time would be a disaster.
^ This exactly. You can close this thread now.
Patty can't run an offense. He almost has to be out there with Manu or there is zero offensive continuity. He's basically a shooting guard trying to play point guard ( sound familiar? ). He won't go off in the playoffs like he has in the so-called meaningless reular season. He may be fast but a lot of times, he plays reckless and out of control. Half the time he's on the court, the team is just standing around watching Patty dribble around at the top of the key and firing up shots. This style of play isn't condcive to playoff basketball. You can't put him on shooting guards because they'll shoot over him and you can't put him on quicker pg's because they'll bkow by him. He's basically the bes of the worst and he'll get his minutes. But, since the playoffs are more defensive oriented and a war of attrition, it wouldn't surprise me to see him get the Gary Neal treatment.
Nah, I didn't mean now. It was a halfway troll comment, too. Sort of serious, but not really...
That sounds a lot like Parker, anyway about that Neal treatment I think Patty will do it better, it was painful to see Gary running the offense with no plan or idea whatsoever (Im talking about the playoffs, especially the Finals).
Perfect. Concise. Insightful.
It's clear there are nights when he does not have the green light shooting wise and on those nights he actually takes care of the rock pretty well without creating too much. Overall it's the improvement in him that is huge.
tbf Tony will average 38 mpg in the playoffs
Patty and Green are both hot and cold players. Play them for 90 seconds and see what temp they are against any team
Green's the real issue here:
Against sub-.500 teams, his FG percentage is 45.3%. 3-Point percentage is 49.2%.
Against .500 teams, his FG percentage drops to 39.3%. 3-Point percentage drops to 30.6%.
Seems like the good teams are keying in on him after the Finals. Spurs have to do something about that since Danny's defense is legit but we can't afford to have a liability on offense either. I'd much rather roll with Danny and hope he figures something out since defense is more of a priority for me. Everything would be much easier if Parker was playing at an elite level this year but he's been pretty disappointing thus far.
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