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He's still better than Errors though.
Damn, Baynes really needs more playi...
, nah, I'm playing, that boy suuuuuuckkks, tbh..
He's still better than Errors though.
Sean Marks' pregame defense is better than Errors.
EDIT: but to stay on topic, yes, Baynes should get a few games of consistent playing time instead of garbage minutes every 5 games.
It would be fine if the team had only one of Baynes/Ayres, but the fact that they have both is disheartening. Ayres being unable to space the floor really hurts the roster.
I was @ the game & Pop was pissed at both Ayres/Baynes a lot. Every time they made a mistake he would turn and start venting to the assistants. Neither played particularly well tonight.
As long as neither play outside of garbage time in the post season...
Baynes should be in pro wrestling, no pro basketball.
Errors is a ing trainwreck. Every time I see him I think it's his first time ever playing the game. He's got like 3 weeks experiences like 55 times.
Baynes/Ayres are a great example of why athleticism doesn't mean if you don't have the actual talent
They are both great examples of the fortunes of winning the genetic lottery, tbh..
I've been saying before tbh..Not only is baynes an awful defender, he also is slow as and can't do PnR for ...
Ayres is acutally a better roller and that's probably the only reason why he's ahead of baynes in the rotation, but they're both awful..
I like baynes 15 footers though.....That's one thing he has over ayres...
Baynes is ass
Baynes is the lesser of 2 evils tbh...
every opposing run the team makes can be attributed to Errors entering the game
he slows down the offense when he has to make a decision and hes a complete non-factor unless hes dunking which he blows over 50% of the time
as soon as Splitter left for Errors in the first half is when the momentum swung to the Nets
Splitter at the half +9
Errors -7
16 point swing tbh..
Ayres is one of the worst bigs in NBA history, but I've already made an Ayres thread in the past and the front page is full of Ayres threads from other posters
I figured Baynes needs a thread, too, he's an awful player, tbh..
I came in to say just this here! They say he is still better than Ayres, whipty ing DOO when we have both of the bums on the same damn team.
I liked Baynes when it looked like he'd be an enforcer. But ya he sucks
This team has still yet to replace that Willis-Massenburg-McDyess enforcer role. How many years has it been now? Need to get Baynes on that HGH, tbh
Thats funny I saw him run back and shut off a guard in transition. His +/- was +3. He shot poorly but other than that he acquitted himself well. He rebounded, cut off penetration, passed the ball well out of the post, etc. The Nets went on two run both times Baynes was taken out of the game.
It's like you guys have no clue wtf you are talking about. From my view, Baynes issues are mostly from the offensive end where he clearly does not know wtf he is doing. He just doesn't know what to do off the ball so he runs and sets screens and tries to force the issue. Now maybe he is too stupid to get the system but its easier to reign in aggression than is to create it. But the bull you guys talk about is just clueless nonsense.
Wtf?
have you seen this guy defend the PnR?
Dude can't cover up anything..he's always 10 feet away from the guard....He goes deeper than he should often times and for that he's awful player..He's also dumb since he hasn't been able to figure out his mistakes.
I loved Tony Massenburg and the role he played on the team. Really wanted him back the following season, but Timvp or someone here said that T-Mass was in a car accident during that off season and couldn't make it back. He would have helped against Dallas in the playoffs that year.
He plays ICE just fine zoning up to cut off the pass and still recover to challenge the shot. You do realize that the Spurs play that such that you give the big the 18 footer if he chooses to take it and hedge to the rim? He does show inconsistent technique on his closeouts. I assume you are grandstanding on the foul he had.
What you remind me of are guys watching NFL football and evaluating oline play on the basis of a single play that you remember. I watched him shutoff a couple of drives and smother a FB. Oh well.
The Nets in general and Anderson in particular were destroying us with the midrange jumper but that was what we were giving them. It is what it is. At the end of the day Baynes came off the court with a better margin.
Baynes was clearing out Kirilenko who was giving the Spurs fits with his picks. I especially liked him TOSBing Garnett and forcing a foul when he absolutely buried him 5 feet from the hoop on an early post just as I liked his vision to find the open cutter in Decolo for an easy layup out of the post.
All Baynes shows is flashes and he is far from putting it all together but considering his lack of NBA experience it does bear out that he will improve.
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WTF
Dude gives about 10 feet of free space and would still back down a few steps after a guard takes a dribble or two forward..meaning he can't contest jumpshots and still gets blown by even with a margin..He's an awful defender.
I don't disagree that he might need some time to experience ball. I like this midrange, but he's really nothing but a scrub at this point..
And I didn;t watch the game tonight..Just general observation on what he brings on the floor every game.
The Spurs maybe though they could develop two intriguing big men (both athletic) on dirt cheap deals into rotation players but that has failed rather miserably. Almost $ 4.5 million to these two ($3.6 to Ayers) is just bad.
i don't understand why ayres gets chances over baynes, that's about the most credit i can give him
I don't see what you see. Just don't. I know what ICE is though and how the Spurs run it and watch him to do it. He takes a step back because on ICE the primary defender goes over the screen and has the responsibility for contesting the shot. The big is zoning the play behind the action. That is what we almost always run we sometimes do like the Mavs or the Heat and hedge real hard where they don't zone up to protect the rim but rather step up hard to the play side. We pretty much never do that anymore.
The weakness of ICE is that you give up those 15-18 footers. The weakness of hedging is that if its not executed well its easy to split the hedge and then you have a free lane to the basket. I really don't know what to tell you.
From reading what you are writing, you just don't seem to know what you are looking at.
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