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Congrats! You just discovered that Europe is filled with socialist countries!
When it is fully funded, it is called Communism.But (it) was never well-funded enough to eliminate poverty.
Bid'niz, that's who!
Poverty rates
The welfare states of continental Europe and social democratic Sweden seem better at tackling poverty than either the UK or the USA.
Britain created one of the earliest and most comprehensive welfare states when Labour adopted the Beveridge report in 1945.
But is was never well-funded enough to eliminate poverty.
Social welfare spending
The effectiveness of welfare states in combatting poverty is closely related to how its citizens are prepared to spend.
Sweden, where total state spending makes up 60% of the economy, also spends twice as much on social welfare as the United States.
Britain falls between the low-spending USA and the high-spending continental European countries.
Old age pensions
The biggest single item of welfare spending is old age pensions.
People retiring in the UK can expect to receive a far lower proportion of the income they received when working than in most other rich countries.
Currently, more UK pensioners than in the rest of Europe also have company pensions, but this may change in the future.
Health care
The United States stands out as the only industrial country which only provides limited government health care benefits -mainly to the elderly.
Other people must buy private health insurance through their employer.
Britain's NHS provides a universal service, although not the best-funded one, with particularly generous prescription drug coverage.
Unemployment
The most dramatic differences in welfare provision occur in regard to unemployment.
Liberal welfare states like the USA and the UK provide a sharp cut-off in benefits to discourage dependency and force people back to work.
Germany and France provide generous benefits, and some argue this leads to high unemployment and inflexible labour markets.
Source:BBC Business
Congrats! You just discovered that Europe is filled with socialist countries!
When it is fully funded, it is called Communism.But (it) was never well-funded enough to eliminate poverty.
Funny, and here I thought that the U.S. was a socialist country or at least that's the impression I got from reading some of Whott, GSpur, and a few other's post. Fact is, when it comes to tax-and-spend, the U.S. is the most developed anti-socialist country in the world.
We have only been fighting this WAR on Poverty since LBJ, 1964 etc We'll keep throwing $ at it till all these poor old farts die off.
BTW the old folks in France and Germany are a of a lot better off
depending on the Government to take care of them vs the fools that
thank our gov't will take care of them in their old age.
Yep were anti-socialist, but Hillary could change that
John Kerry missed his chance
Can Someone explain to me what I get for my taxes besides an underfunded
Military, piss poor roads, and seeing my grandchildren have the same education of those in Germany,and elsewhere, with the exception that what the Germans are learning at 14/15 years old is being taught in the 1st two years of College in the US
Last edited by AFE7FATMAN; 08-05-2005 at 05:41 AM.
Honestly, if you want these things you really should move to Europe. The only way we could have all this is raising tax rates to the level they do. I paid between 42-46% when I was a resident of Germany. Pretty ing crazy. How many of you are want to fund other people? Not me.
Here are the 2005 Mean Income tax rates for Sweden:
Local: 31.6
Municipal: 20.84
County: 10.76
Plus, they have property taxes and real estate taxes.
Oh, and don't forget the 25% VAT they have.
Wow! It's GREAT TO BE AN AMERICAN!
Damn straight.the U.S. is the most developed anti-socialist country in the world.
You know, we'd probably have more money to use at home if we weren't funding things like the UN, but you have said in the past that en y is sooooooooo important to world security
Similarly, look at all the foreign aid we give out around the world. All of the EU combined doesn't give out half the aid the US does every year.
I'd say the US does engage in some socialism, it's just socialism for the world.
And Clandestino beat me to it - they tax outrageously in Europe. That VAT tax alone is more than the income tax placed on those in the middle class tax bracket in this country.
socialism, I like having some money in my pocket.
Also, take into consideration that we have at least 12 million illegal aliens in this country - I would bet that the vast majority of them are earning wages that put them below the poverty line. I don't think Sweden and Germany have that problem!!
I'm already funding other people.
My taxes are around 30% now. As a resident of Germany if you had any medical bills I'm sure they were a fraction of what you would pay in the US, plus you also had dental benefits I believe, not to mention a heck of a lot of paid holidays from
most jobs. Also you could travel on the autobahn and not have to slow down to 45mph every few miles because of construction, local exits, traffic lights, etc.and please don't bring up the cost of Gas
More thoughts- Yagerschnetizel and fried potatoes, Good Wine and
Bitburger.
Oh I've got 18 more months and I retire for the 2nd time, 1st one was
my military one, than my wife and I are moving to Trier.
How much money does the US spend in the UN again? In foreign aid?You know, we'd probably have more money to use at home if we weren't funding things like the UN, but you have said in the past that en y is sooooooooo important to world security
Similarly, look at all the foreign aid we give out around the world. All of the EU combined doesn't give out half the aid the US does every year.
How does that compare with the money being spend in Iraq?
No, I didn't have all the benefits... And no, I worked for an American company, so I didn't have their holidays.I'm already funding other people.
My taxes are around 30% now. As a resident of Germany if you had any medical bills I'm sure they were a fraction of what you would pay in the US, plus you also had dental benefits I believe, not to mention a heck of a lot of paid holidays from
most jobs. Also you could travel on the autobahn and not have to slow down to 45mph every few miles because of construction, local exits, traffic lights, etc.and please don't bring up the cost of Gas
More thoughts- Yagerschnetizel and fried potatoes, Good Wine and
Bitburger.
Oh I've got 18 more months and I retire for the 2nd time, 1st one was
my military one, than my wife and I are moving to Trier.
i've been there... it is just a taco bell in the px food court. it was ing big, BIG news when it opened.. soldiers from everywhere were driving like 3-4 hours to go get taco bell!
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