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    Any word on how negotiations are going? How likely does it look like we can get him signed?

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    He's not a free agent is he? I haven't heard anything about. I hope they are just working on a longer deal.

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    He's not a free-agent but the Spurs are able to sign him to a contract extension this summer. However, Marcus Bryant ran the numbers and it looks like the most the Spurs could offer him is a shade under $40 over five years. That probably will not cut it.

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    That probably will not cut it.
    Offer it up.

    If it don't work, you trade him.

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    Nazr and his agent know that if he has a big year, he'll get Erick Dampier money. I highly doubt the Spurs can extend him this summer.

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    In that case you trade him.

    Trade NEsterovic.

    So you can have Oberto Duncan Horry and whoever else.

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    Whats the big deal if we lose Nazr. Even if Rasho is no longer on the team, we would still have Timmy, Oberto, BsB, the rights to scola, the rights to Javtokas, and the rights to Ian. The Spurs have a plenty of big man options.

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    the rights to scola, the rights to Javtokas, and the rights to Ian
    Javtokas is maybe mediocre at best, Scola is undersized, and IAN aint comin around for another 3 years.

    So wanna tell me how thats a good thing again?

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    You can't wait for those guys to develop and show up in da league.

    The next five years are the prime of Tim Duncan's career. The Spurs management needs to be ponying up for whoever they need to, bite the bullet, and see how many rings they can wring out of this squad.

    the future, the time to win is now.

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    Tim duncan can make any scrub player look good, look at freakn rasho

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    Javtokas is maybe mediocre at best, Scola is undersized, and IAN aint comin around for another 3 years.

    So wanna tell me how thats a good thing again?
    Scola is still the best power player in Europe and Rasho and Nazr are better than mediocre?

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    Would the knicks still be interested in nazr or rasho? in return we get ariza as bowens replacement.

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    Javtokas is maybe mediocre at best, Scola is undersized, and IAN aint comin around for another 3 years.

    So wanna tell me how thats a good thing again?
    If you think Javtokas is mediocre than get back out on the ledge and this time JUMP.

    Timvp is correct Nazr and his agent won't go for an extension. They will price themselves out of SA next year. DOn't let the door hit you in the Ass on the way out.

    Rasho is a blue light special and noone including the Nicks want this creampuff for what he is making, but than again you never know about NY.they took Rose.

    Javtokas, oberto, nazr, this year and if were stuck with raso so be it.

    Next year Oberto, Javtokas and a old vet, i.e massenberg type for the min.
    Remember Pop said all we need out of the 5 is what DRob gave us and
    that my friend is mediocre the last couple of years, no matter what the reason.

    TPark I though you had more knowledge about basketball than to say Jatokas is mediocre, i.e
    Vertical Leap Rasho= 3"
    Nazr= 6-9"
    Marks = "Whats that mate"
    Javtokas 36+" and he is finess, which Scola is not.
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    Mediocre is probably being to fair. Javtokas has done nothing in the NBA and since his injuries nothing of much stature in Europe.

    T-Park was actually being a bit of a homer in his evaluations.

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    Seriously if this guy can recover from a bike accident quicker and still manage to play ball even though he has lost sum atheletic abilities, his still puttin up solid numbers in his league, compared to jay williams n tj ford who have been out for how long nobody kept track off.

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    Has anyone here seen Javtokas play besides myself??
    I'll admit he has yet to play in the NBA but this guy is good. He won't come cheap like Oberto. I'm wondering if the Spurs will pay him. I think $$ may have been a factor in him staying in Europe, plus his getting married and wanting a contract for this coming year. He will be on the all rookie team his first year.

    http://www.24sec.net/article.asp?index=1922


    Nothing in Europe
    you must have no links to eurobasket, etc

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    I think Javtokas would consider anything the spurs offered. Remember, after his accident, the Spurs paid for his surgery and rehab, and he wasn't even under contract. I'm thinking that might go a long way in negotiations.

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    Rasho is a blue light special and noone including the Nicks want this creampuff for what he is making,
    Actually the original deal Isiah wanted was Nazr for Rasho, so try again.

    I've said going back to the WCF that the Spurs needed to extend Nazr this summer if they didn't want to be paying a lot more for him next season.

    I'm hoping they can still get something done this summer but the window is closing.

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    Has anyone here seen Javtokas play besides myself??
    Yes, and "finesse" isn't a word anyone who has would use to describe him.

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    Maybe Nazr doesn't want to sign an extension this summer? Right now the max extension he's eligible for is 5 years and $37 mil. Does that seem like something he couldn't get next summer?

    It'll be rather hard to blame the Spurs for not being able to get him to sign for that. But I'm sure some Spurs fans will.

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    Wow you watch a lot of Euro ball, and you do this from the US?? Correct me if I'm wrong but I didn't think they showed much Euro ball over there. I don't claim to have seen him play much but I have seen games from Olympics and a few Euro games I'd be suprised if you've had the capacity to see more. Regardless if you have thats great.

    However that doesn't stop your analysis from being dead wrong.

    Javtokas is nothing more than an average player in the actual Euroleague. I agree that he has a good skill set. However he no longer hgas a 36" inch vert, its gone. Not coming back. He still has a chance to make it to the NBA but not in the capacity you seem to suggest. Do you believe Ian Mahimni is going to be better than Amare as well?


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    That's a good point Marcus, I hadn't bothered to do the math but your numbers sound right on the extension this summer.

    That's probably why the Spurs are trying to move Rasho, maybe they plan on matching for Nazr no matter what and realize they're going to need to free up some $$$.

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    Maybe Nazr doesn't want to sign an extension this summer? Right now the max extension he's eligible for is 5 years and $37 mil. Does that seem like something he couldn't get next summer?

    It'll be rather hard to blame the Spurs for not being able to get him to sign for that. But I'm sure some Spurs fans will.
    How are you getting the numbers?

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    Marcus, have you seen anything on the new CBA's contract extension information? Coon's salary cap faq isn't up to date and the extension stuff could have changed.

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