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    You have no idea UZER's Avatar
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    As a fraud using todays advanced stats?

    I'm talking guys held in high regard by us old school fans.

    And in the same line of thought, who was surprisingly more valuable than given credit for?

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    meant to say "what"

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    Bill Russell would be such a scrub.

    Glorified Ben Wallace imo

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    Bill Russell would be such a scrub.

    Glorified Ben Wallace imo
    Agreed, he was recipient of fast pace.

    He would be a Ben Wallace clone today.

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    Bill Russell introduced something to the league that was never used in the past, and it was his shot blocking and rebounding and outlet passes. He was the key to a fastbreaking style of basketball that won the Celtics 11 championships. Would he have the same level of success as today? Probably not, but in his day, and taking his impact of the game in context, the man is getting severely underrated as time goes by.

    In terms of advanced stats, the following players, I think, would be viewed in a more negative light:
    1) Pete Maravich
    2) Nate Archibald
    3) World B. Free
    4) Nique
    5) Bernard King
    6) Willis Reed

    Underrated:
    1) David Robinson
    2) Elgin Baylor
    3) Jerry West
    4) Charles Barkley
    5) Artis Gilmore
    6) Moses Malone

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    Bill Russell introduced something to the league that was never used in the past, and it was his shot blocking and rebounding and outlet passes. He was the key to a fastbreaking style of basketball that won the Celtics 11 championships. Would he have the same level of success as today? Probably not, but in his day, and taking his impact of the game in context, the man is getting severely underrated as time goes by.

    In terms of advanced stats, the following players, I think, would be viewed in a more negative light:
    1) Pete Maravich
    2) Nate Archibald
    3) World B. Free
    4) Nique
    5) Bernard King
    6) Willis Reed

    Underrated:
    1) David Robinson
    2) Elgin Baylor
    3) Jerry West
    4) Charles Barkley
    5) Artis Gilmore
    6) Moses Malone
    I had Bernard king and David Robinson on both of the same lists.

    I think advanced stats would favor David in a huge way. He won an IBM award they used to give out for a few years for the most important player statistically to a team.

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    Your pain: it runs deep! Sybok's Avatar
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    David would be a monster in today's NBA. Tall, shot blocker, good footwork, can shoot outside, athletic as , good FT shooter... he'd destroy.

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    David would be a monster in today's NBA. Tall, shot blocker, good footwork, can shoot outside, athletic as , good FT shooter... he'd destroy.
    not to mention if playing for the Spurs of today or at least the majority of his career under Holt/Pop, he'd have a better team around him as well.

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    not to mention if playing for the Spurs of today or at least the majority of his career under Holt/Pop, he'd have a better team around him as well.
    Robinson's team's weren't bad...he just had the miss fortune to play in the 90's when MJ and Hakeem where playing. I watched David get destroyed by Hakeem at the HemisfairArena in the semi-finals and it was brutal.

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    Robinson's team's weren't bad...he just had the miss fortune to play in the 90's when MJ and Hakeem where playing. I watched David get destroyed by Hakeem at the HemisfairArena in the semi-finals and it was brutal.
    Hemisfair Arena, HemisfairArena? Losing some cred with that tid bit.

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    Your pain: it runs deep! Sybok's Avatar
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    Hemisfair Arena, HemisfairArena? Losing some cred with that tid bit.
    They went back over there and played. Don't you know that?

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    Bill Russell

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    Hemisfair Arena, HemisfairArena? Losing some cred with that tid bit.
    Youre right....I got confused with Barkley ripping our heart out in the semi's against David at the Hemisfair and Hakeem doing it at the Alamodome.

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    the myth that is wilt chamberlain needs to be mention, i think he would excel in t odays league against the monkeyballers,

    but if he played during the 90s-2010 against real skilled big man c/pf, i dont think he will have those monster stats

    theres more to skill then relying on monkeyball to get ur stats

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    the myth that is wilt chamberlain needs to be mention, i think he would excel in t odays league against the monkeyballers,

    but if he played during the 90s-2010 against real skilled big man c/pf, i dont think he will have those monster stats

    theres more to skill then relying on monkeyball to get ur stats
    Very true, Wilt isn't nearly as good as some knuckle draggers around here would lead you to believe. Perhaps the best "monkeyballer" the world as seen and nothing more.

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    not to mention if playing for the Spurs of today or at least the majority of his career under Holt/Pop, he'd have a better team around him as well.
    Pop would have benched him in game 6

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    Probably half of the Celtics in the HOF

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    Care to explain that one?

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    bob cousy

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    Robinson is a stronger and better version of Chris Bosh. The Admiral would be perfect in today's NBA wherein centers should know how to guard the PnR on a nightly basis.

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    Larry bird
    Pistol pete
    Jerry west
    Tom chambers
    Bill walton


    Off the top of my head

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    Larry bird
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    Off the top of my head
    Forgot Rick Barry

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    What about Gervin?

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    Chris Mullen? Kevin Johnson? Tim Hardaway?

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    Lol Bird would have even better stats vs today's dumb Monkeyballers

    Plus, he would light it up from downtown with the zone D.
    Bird only took 1 three point shot per game during his career

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