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Cool, religion thread. I'm in before the haters.
I may not have all the answers and can explain why suffering exists...my belief in God has nothing to do with religion at all...it's my personal belief system based on science and the physical heavens....but if I'm to believe in God which makes more sense to me than evolution....and if I'm to believe he's always existed in a different dimension and is the actual cause of the physical BIG BANG then I have no choice but to admit and acknowledge that suffering as it exists today (while it may be painful) is not a very long period of time compared to an eternal always existing scale...especially if God does indeed deliver on his promise of heavenly bliss....It also makes sense to me why I can't explain who created God because I'm not supposed to be able to explain that..just like a dog can't reason with a human...one scientist said it best...understanding the heavens makes as much sense to humans as the internet does to an ant....it's the same reason why we cannot look directly into the Sun without going blind...if God created the Sun and we can't even really look upon that small ball of burning gas..what makes any of you think we can actually get close to it's creator..... Universe's and Multiverses don't just happen on their own...dark matter and neutrino oscillation is not a self contained internal process...it's simply a mathematical impossibility for the universe to create itself out of nothing... like Albert Einstein...I believe that God exists it's just that he's chosen not to have a personal relationship with us at the moment. Personally I see God as sort of a "mad" scientist...tinkering with physical creations throughout eternity to see what works and what doesn't based on his personal preference. As mortal creatures we want instant gratification since our time here is limited so I can understand the atheists who are upset that God is not acting on the mortal timescale...However, I always think of this scripture to give me comfort:
“For my thoughts are not your thoughts,
neither are your ways my ways,”
declares the Lord.
9 “As the heavens are higher than the earth,
so are my ways higher than your ways
and my thoughts than your thoughts.
So there you have it...Given the massive universe and multiverse that's just parallel to us I have no choice but to believe the above
Cool, religion thread. I'm in before the haters.
^ wake up dude...only ignoramses sleep at a time like this
No hate. Just ridicule.
"God's thoughts and ways are higher than ours"
Translation:
"We know this is riddled with plot holes, contradictions, and illogical arguments/events that aren't grounded in science, so we need to excuse it by saying you just don't get it."
Lol clippernation talking out of his ass as usual.
it's you that talks out of your ass, tbh.
If you're being serious in these threads, then you're really very unintelligent.
If you're trolling then I don't get why you'd pretend to be this stupid.
It's just bad for you either way.
religion trolling is cutting edge
Because the purpose of God, if there is a God, is to make sure nothing bad happens in the world.
The purpose of God is also to make sure that man can scientifically prove his existence and walk up to him and say o.
if he really did exist, i walk up to him and punch him in the face,
the storm he/she created isnt perfect, but still man...u must take responsibility for ur creation
C'mon son...^ is this really a problem God caused, Evolution Caused, or a Man Made problem...I lean towards man made....you cannot blame God for man's atrocities against his fellow man...no more than the atheist would blame evolution“For my thoughts are not your thoughts,
neither are your ways my ways,”
declares the Lord.
If I were "God" I wouldn't let this happen. Must have been a hanging chad problem when they elected your ass.
“As the heavens are higher than the earth,
so are my ways higher than your ways
and my thoughts than your thoughts.
Please.
Psalm 137:9
don't forget Judges 19:1 and on thru that "parable"
probably the most evil in the "holy" text in regards to today's "morality".... what a bunch of evil that one passage spouts.
Plenty more were that came from though in this "holy" book that is supposed to teach us our Morales.
what a crock full of this book is. If only people on this site, and those around the world, would actually read it and actually understand what it is saying, maybe they might understand how obviously wrong it is. This goes beyond the Christian bible... it extends to the Koran and every other "holy" book in the world. Just as today's "modern" religions reject Thor, Isis, Imhotep, Zeus and countless thousands of gods, what makes theirs relevant? especially when their "gods" story mimics the previous gods before them with no other proof than a book equivalent to a harry potter or lord of the rings book that just happens to be a few thousand years old?
It's hard to convince a willingly blind person to look at the evidence though. They literally have a piece of shoved in their faces and yet they proclaim it to smell like roses, denying all evidence to the contrary. We can only hope, as the trend shows, that they eventually die out and humanity can move on to bigger and better things eventually.
One thought experiment I like to play with my friends.... Let's say there is some type of global disaster that brings mankind to the brink of extinction.... lets say just 2000 years pass after this event and Humans survive somehow.... One day someone finds a pristine omnibus of Harry Potter (or any fictional book you so desire).... What would they think? To me, it is an interesting concept. We know Harry Potter is just a story to entertain today.... but what would people, after two thousand years think about it.... would they interpret it as a literal accounting of history? Might they think the earth was destroyed because of those events in an obvious fantasy world to those of us living today?
Without the advent of technology, those living in the path of Katrina might have thought it a "global flood" because they knew nothing beyond their own habitat. Could this be what the goat herders experienced when they talked about the fable of Noah? I personally find that more likely as there is no geological evidence of a global flood. As to how Noah knew there was a flood coming, I can admit I do not know.... but there are many things ancient people knew that we still do not understand today. That doesn't mean some omnipotent being told him so though. To claim that is to claim the "god of the gaps" and you would be on the losing side. "I don't know" doesn't equal "god did it."
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So where did God come from?I may not have all the answers and can explain why suffering exists...my belief in God has nothing to do with religion at all...it's my personal belief system based on science and the physical heavens....but if I'm to believe in God which makes more sense to me than evolution....and if I'm to believe he's always existed in a different dimension and is the actual cause of the physical BIG BANG then I have no choice but to admit and acknowledge that suffering as it exists today (while it may be painful) is not a very long period of time compared to an eternal always existing scale...especially if God does indeed deliver on his promise of heavenly bliss....It also makes sense to me why I can't explain who created God because I'm not supposed to be able to explain that..just like a dog can't reason with a human...one scientist said it best...understanding the heavens makes as much sense to humans as the internet does to an ant....it's the same reason why we cannot look directly into the Sun without going blind...if God created the Sun and we can't even really look upon that small ball of burning gas..what makes any of you think we can actually get close to it's creator..... Universe's and Multiverses don't just happen on their own...dark matter and neutrino oscillation is not a self contained internal process...it's simply a mathematical impossibility for the universe to create itself out of nothing... like Albert Einstein...I believe that God exists it's just that he's chosen not to have a personal relationship with us at the moment. Personally I see God as sort of a "mad" scientist...tinkering with physical creations throughout eternity to see what works and what doesn't based on his personal preference. As mortal creatures we want instant gratification since our time here is limited so I can understand the atheists who are upset that God is not acting on the mortal timescale...However, I always think of this scripture to give me comfort:
So there you have it...Given the massive universe and multiverse that's just parallel to us I have no choice but to believe the above
I answered that question already...just as we cannot look upon the Sun he didn't create us to understand that deep...we're limited in intellect as scientists admit we're only capable of using 10% of our brains only...if we could use all 100% according to scientists then maybe the question could be answered...
why didn't God allow us to use 100%
So my intelligent mind requires a creator, but God's vastly more intelligent mind doesn't?
Actually that 10% -100% thing is a misunderstanding (shocking) of what is understood about our brains. We do use 100% of our brains.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_percent_of_brain_myth
Surprise, KAM doesn't know about this stuff, as it is, you know, science-y and .
Our limited brains have figured out the paradoxes of omniscience, and omnipotence.
Some of our brains have
Puh-lease kid...you knew nothing about the 10% fact until I brought it up...now you're all in research mode and trynna act like you smart...
you're a poser when in fact Kool is the real deal
yes your brain does...just like everything else in the physical universe....for as complex as they are do watches, TV's, Radio's come from mere evolution....no they have a designer and maker..just like the human body and the starry heavens...it is very hard to comprehend but when presented with Evolution vs. Creation as my options I gotta go with what makes the most common basic sense and it's intelligent design and creation....all of this order is just an evolutionary mathematical impossibility...
plausible as it beats Evolution
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