Not sure about the statistics in the past, but we've noticed two instances this post-season where a coach and a player blamed the refs for poor officiating. If any of the Spurs players could muster up and infer that the refs are making a couple bad calls, do you think the NBA would be under closer scrutiny for such poor officiating throughout the playoffs?
The NBA actually got busted already with the Tim Donaghe or however u spell it. They pretty much put all of the blame on him. None of the other officials were implicated, and most of them still officiate today with the exception of Steve Javie. The NBA isnt going to do , but hand out fines.
Its amazing when you think about it. The fact, for years I and many many others believed the NBA was RIGGED and then a ref gets busted gambling on games. He then goes on to say all the refs rig games and he was the only one foolish enough to bet on it and get caught.
Yet, the NBA sold it as a rogue referee that was pathetic and disgraced the game. It's truly amazing that most people bought that crap.
I doubt they give a rat when you already have them turning a blind eye on that well as the obvious PED usage
Pretty sad Tim Donaghy was the ultimate scapegoat for all of that. I didn't buy it
Truth kabooms.
Remember listening to Jim Rome during that time and a former mob boss in jail was the special guest, and he said its hilarious the NBA is pretending hes a rogue referee and that David Stern and the powers to be would OBVIOUSLY know something was up if a ref was making suspect calls over and over again. Its obvious when you think about it, the NBA knew what was up because theyre a part of it. It wasnt until the feds busted Donaghy that the NBA played the rogue card and that they had no idea
It's the same with the Sterling situation. When it first happened, the NBA just swept it under the rug until this latest tif happened. I think the biggest thing that happened with the refs was in 2002 when I think a congressman got involved after the Kings-Lakers series. Either way, NBA doesn't give a because the refs are instructed to do what's best for business
I mean, you would think that through rational thinking, if a coach and a player, along with many fans out there claiming that the officiating is egregious, the NBA would have due diligence to investigate or look into the actual call instead of fining players and coaches left and right. But, when the NBA screws up a call that can decide the game, all they do is apologize... an apology isn't going to do jack .
If I remember correctly, David Stern rebutted that both those guys were jailbirds and not credible. But the fact remains, they didn't indicate any other evidence of screening all the other referees after the Tim Donaghy incident. Just tried to sweep it under the rug
The amazing thing is that it worked. I watched the NFL for the same amount of time as the NBA, Ive never felt the NFL was rigged. I've seen poorly officiated games, but I never felt there was an agenda. I equally love the Broncos in the NFL as much as the Lakers and I have never once considered an agenda for or against them, how come the NBA feels so blatantly obvious? Because it is
No ability to challenge reviews tbh
Edit: otherwise, you get fined
The lame excuse is that the NBA is much more fast paced than the NFL and its much harder to officiate a non stop game as compared to a 1 play at a time styleNo ability to challenge reviews tbh
Edit: otherwise, you get fined
I agree with that to a certain extent, but I believe they should hold reviews where the refs have conflicting calls. Many times, one ref just points to the other and ask if they're sure they saw the foul. Even if Tim Donaghy was the sole actor in fixing games in the past, this behavior only sets up refs to do the same in the future.
He didn't say they rig games. Quite the opposite actually. He said they have tendencies and he knew those tendencies so he knew how to bet. He knew Bavetta likes to keep the game close, while other refs will defer foul calls to a role player if a star is in foul trouble already. I saw Joey do that last night with Durant who wasn't even in foul trouble. You can dismiss that by saying anyone can make a mistake and that it was corrected, but if I short change you every time you come to my store, and you only catch a few of them, I'm making a decent profit off of cheating you. Also, if I never accidentally short change myself, you know it's an intentional thing. You don't see Durant accidentally pick up a foul that should go to someone else. , Lamb wasn't even in the play except catching the ball after Patty fell.
That's like telling the HR lady that the CEO is harrassing you. She's hired by him, she'll approach him and tell him you're complaining and he'll find a way to move or fire you and the complaint will magically vanish. It's a conflict of interest to have the officials hired by the league.
Agreed. But there has to be something that triggers NBA to be on their toes about this. If the media were smart they should've scrutinized the NBA even more. I'm just saying that there needs to be something to happen again in order to keep the league on their toes so the media can question the integrity of today's NBA.
We're just getting the same ref treatment monkeyball received in game 5 of the Clippers-thunder series imho.
The NBA's tried and true response is to ignore it and brush it off as nonsense. The players and coaches are s for the system so they'll initially call out the the refs and then you'll see them change their tune just like how JVG did back when he was fined 100K for calling out the officiating. He later rescinded his remarks. s eventually just swallow the load, despite the taste, though they might complain a bit at first. That roll of money sitting on the dresser is the truth for them.
Why question integrity when they all want Durant vs Lebron?
I think to an extent JVG was completely destroyed by bad officiating. You can hear it sometimes in his commentary, much more seldom now than when he first grabbed a mic. He knows the deal now, and like you said - happily accepts a paycheck.
That's because beneath the facade of compe ion it's a business where people make hundreds of millions to dribble a basketball. The outcomes of the games in college mean everything to players, but in the pros it's all about making a paycheck. Sacrificing money to win a ring is so rare we know almost everyone who's ever done it. If not for endorsement revenue, there'd probably not be 5 players in the league who gave a about being on a compe ive team if they are making the max either way. It's just an earlier weekend for them. We as fans care only about the compe ion, but they play all the time and know it's a business of entertainment, not of compe ion. Does anyone care who wins the And1 games? No.
Just a shame how nobody calls out the NBA on their BS really
The only way the NBA gets nailed for their completely obvious officiating manipulation is through a Congressional investigation. If Stern were still the Commish, I'd be all about it. And the guy would fall hard. He's the one at fault for building the broken system, and manipulating it all those years. It's shameful.
same with politics. people buy into whatever the media tells them,for the most part. those who don't are probably monitored
what's amazing is Donaghy and 3 other refs went to the same high school. so you're telling me with all the refs in this country, they're going to choose from that small of a pool? something don't smell right. most likely all of them were affiliated with gambling to some degree, and the league knew they'd be company men imo.
also, iirc, the Feds lessened Donaghy's sentence because nothing he said proved to be bull , at least in their judgment. Gotta hand it to Stern, a master s bag, he was able to spin a potentially devastating situation into an isolated incident.
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