Amateur: Kobe fan talking down Duncan makes no sense.

[midnightpulp]

Kool had it figured out before he put Luva's back in his mouth: "To diminish Duncan is to diminish Kobe."

See. what's nice about being a Spurs/Duncan fan is that we have the luxury of diminishing Kobe because Duncan has beaten Shaq, Dirk, and James (possibly again) on the way to les. They're all top 15 great players, one of whom has a outside chance at GOAT. While I do think Kobe is a top 10/12 player, we can talk about him as if he's a glorified Devin Brown and not suffer.

On the Kobe side of things, who has he beaten? Webber, (an old) Paul Pierce, Allen Iverson, Carmelo, Deron Williams, Aaron BrKs, Dwight Hward? As it stands, Duncan is the only top 15 player Kobe's ever beaten.

Kobe fan talking down Duncan as a gay, cuckholded "system player," just means Kobe has truly never beaten anyone great on the way to a le.

The best thing for Kobe fan really is for Duncan to win the championship, beating James, and capturing the Finals MVP. Sure, Duncan ascends to top-5 status, but Kobe fan can say, "My guy is the only player with a winning record in the playoffs against the greatest player since Jordan." Just by association, Kobe will vault from fringe top 10 status to top 8.

Time to choose, Kobe fans.

[Kawhi]

Kobe fan never make any sense

[Thebesteva]

Mid, did you lose $20 or not?

[spurraider21]

bomb

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

It's truth. Kobe needs this for Duncan because he might win the generation tally by casual media, being a part of a big organization, etc.

[unforeseen]

Mid, did you lose $20 or not?

He will gladly lose another $20 if it meant the Spurs win game 2.

[Buddy Mignon]

We already have NBA greats saying Kobe is a top 5 player. He has a top 5 legacy... and the highest paid in the history of the sport. Kobe didn't sacrifice a damn thing to earn his greatness. Can you say that for Jim? Jim had been a center all his life but was asked to play PF for the sake of the team and he did it. Jim was due for a massive contract extension and when asked to take a massive pay cut... of course he does... and it didn't result in any les either. Kobe was asked to shoot less to win his first le... Kobe says that I'm shooting more. Kobe needs Shaq to win... Kobe says get the out of town fat ass... I'll win without you. Kobe needs to take a pay cut. Kobe laughs all the way to the bank. My j iggas did it his way... that's the mark of a true Boss.

[midnightpulp]

I have no reply, so I'll just talk about Kobe's bank account

Beating Aaron BrKs and Dwight Hward on the way to les.

Aside from Duncan, Kobe's never beaten anyone, not even a top 20 great. Last time he matched up with one (Dirk), he got obliterated.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...playoffs::none

Damn

[midnightpulp]

Here, homie, this how a true top 10 great handles Dirk:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...playoffs::none

[Buddy Mignon]

Beating Aaron BrKs and Dwight Hward on the way to les.

Aside from Duncan, Kobe's never beaten anyone, not even a top 20 great. Last time he matched up with one (Dirk), he got obliterated.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...playoffs::none

Damn

AI
Webber
Duncan
Robinson
KG
Ray Allen
Paul Pierce
Howard
Melo
Nash
Amare
Stockton
Malone
Reggie Miller
Jason Kidd
Mark Jackson
Scottie Pipped
Rasheed Wallace
Chris Paul
Kevin Durant
Devon Williams

All of those players above have fallen to Kobe's mighty sword.

[midnightpulp]

AI
Webber
Duncan
Robinson
KG
Ray Allen
Paul Pierce
Howard
Melo
Nash
Amare
Stockton
Malone
Reggie Miller
Jason Kidd
Mark Jackson
Scottie Pipped
Rasheed Wallace
Chris Paul
Kevin Durant
Devon Williams

All of those players above have fallen to Kobe's mighty sword.

That's about the worst list of "all time" greats I've ever seen. Mark Jackson Reggie Miller Webber Deron Williams

Also, Kobe's never beaten Malone and Stockton in a playoff series. He's 1-8 vs. them in the post-season.

[Clipper Nation]

"Scottie Pipped"
"Devon Williams"


























Naruto

[Buddy Mignon]

Here, homie, this how a true top 10 great handles Dirk:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...playoffs::none

Comparing Dirk to Jim would be like comparing Carter to Kobe. No one ever does. When you want to one up Lakerfan you have enter Jordan into the equation. Kobe has no comparison in his era. Compare Jims stats to Wilts or Kareems... i dare you... lol!!!

[Buddy Mignon]

That's about the worst list of "all time" greats I've ever seen. Mark Jackson Reggie Miller Webber Deron Williams

Also, Kobe's never beaten Malone and Stockton in a playoff series. He's 1-8 vs. them in the post-season.

Let me see you make a better list of compe ors that Jordan played against. You cant.

[Buddy Mignon]

"Scottie Pipped"
"Devon Williams"


























Naruto

Wow.. who let the fly in. Notice the trend of posters in this thread? We all have les. You've never even been to the dance. Your The Last American Virgin in this thread.

[midnightpulp]

Comparing Dirk to Jim would be like comparing Carter to Kobe. No one ever does. When you want to one up Lakerfan you have enter Jordan into the equation. Kobe has no comparison in his era. Compare Jims stats to Wilts or Kareems... i dare you... lol!!!

Why? They played in the dark ages. Elgin Baylor was pulling down 15 boards in that era. It was a high paced stone age of an era.

Why don't we compare Duncan vs. Shaq head-to-head instead:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...playoffs::none

Oh, and calling Dirk "Vince Carter" doesn't do Kobe any favors, since Dirk turned Kirby's asshole inside out in their last matchup.

You can't win here. Either talk up Duncan as a top tier great or Kobe will have never beaten anyone of note in the playoffs.

Got you in checkmate, homie. Time to knock over your king.

[Buddy Mignon]

Why? They played in the dark ages. Elgin Baylor was pulling down 15 boards in that era. It was a high paced stone age of an era.

Why don't we compare Duncan vs. Shaq head-to-head instead:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...playoffs::none

I could put Kobe in any era against any player and he'd dominate. Match Duncan up with Hakeem, Kareem, Moses, or Wilt and gets his ass handed to him. I dont compare Kobe to Duncan. I simply refute you all's outlandish claims of Jim being the best of his era. Its absurd if you ask me.

Oh, and calling Dirk "Vince Carter" doesn't do Kobe any favors, since Dirk turned Kirby's asshole inside out in their last matchup.

You can't win here. Either talk up Duncan as a top tier great or Kobe will have never beaten anyone of note in the playoffs.

Got you in checkmate, homie. Time to knock over your king.

[Buddy Mignon]

And midget... I'm not your girlfriend, homie. Stop chasing me around... you got some bot program buzzing you every time you see me logged on. You and chumper need to chase some pussy instead of me. Just tell me you need help, homie... I'll hook you up.

[midnightpulp]

Shaq's the best center since Kareem, and Duncan beats him in the stat department head-to-head.

Kobe hasn't dominated this era. As far as wing players go, he has inferior stats to Dirk (basically a wing player), Lebron, and Wade.

[ElNono]

tbh, I can see why Luva relates to Kirby... he's your typical towelhead that wishes he wouldn't have been born a sand nagger... he walked in here pretending to be a bro from the hood, but as usual, eventually the camel rears it's ugly head...

It's a lot like uncle tom Kirby hating his own kind, tbh... there's that connection there...

[Buddy Mignon]

Shaq's the best center since Kareem, and Duncan beats him in the stat department head-to-head.

Kobe hasn't dominated this era. As far as wing players go, he has inferior stats to Dirk (basically a wing player), Lebron, and Wade.

Shaq ain't half the player Hakeem was... and neither is Jim. Wade and Lebron would be stuck with bronze medals if not for Kobe. They all thought Kobe was left for dead until he forced them to eat that back2back. What that Wade say when Kobe went deuces on em... "I just got sick to my stomach. .. I'm going to bed." What a ho... lol.

[midnightpulp]

Shaq ain't half the player Hakeem was... and neither is Jim. Wade and Lebron would be stuck with bronze medals if not for Kobe. They all thought Kobe was left for dead until he forced them to eat that back2back. What that Wade say when Kobe went deuces on em... "I just got sick to my stomach. .. I'm going to bed." What a ho... lol.

Wade carried the gold medal game. Leading scorer for the game. Kobe was getting torched by Rudy Fernandez.

I feel Wade, to be honest. His second best player was Michael Beasley during that time, while Kobe was playing with the best frontline in basketball.

[KaiRMD1]

Damn, that's a truth bomb.

[midnightpulp]

Wade carried the gold medal game. Leading scorer for the game. Kobe was getting torched by Rudy Fernandez.

I feel Wade, to be honest. His second best player was Michael Beasley during that time, while Kobe was playing with the best frontline in basketball.

More on this point.

Wade absolutely destroyed that Celtics team that held Kirby to 40% shooting (again):

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...html#MIA::none

So it probably frustrated Wade watching Kobe shoot 6-24 and still win a le, while Wade had an all-time great series against that very same team that went unnoticed.

[TDMVPDPOY]

Shaq ain't half the player Hakeem was... and neither is Jim. Wade and Lebron would be stuck with bronze medals if not for Kobe. They all thought Kobe was left for dead until he forced them to eat that back2back. What that Wade say when Kobe went deuces on em... "I just got sick to my stomach. .. I'm going to bed." What a ho... lol.

hakeem the most overrated pos ive ever seen and how his ranked, only 2 good peak years like he played like that his whole career...only 93/94-94/95 season he was relevant, every other season b4 it he was nowhere to be seen