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    I'm sure the Spurs are just interested in him playing for their SL team. It doesn't make sense to give him an actual free agent deal. They could have just drafted him if they wanted him that bad.

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    If they were to sign and cut him in camp, he'd go to the Toros. That's what I think this is.

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    Yea they want to develop him ala Patty Mills. And he's actually a comparable player.

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    I'm sure the Spurs are just interested in him playing for their SL team. It doesn't make sense to give him an actual free agent deal. They could have just drafted him if they wanted him that bad.
    Yes, it wouldn't be interesting except the article says, specifically, that it is NOT for a summer contract. Of course, the article could be wrong, but it dismissed that option early on.

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    Yes, it wouldn't be interesting except the article says, specifically, that it is NOT for a summer contract. Of course, the article could be wrong, but it dismissed that option early on.
    Last paragraph of the article:

    So at the moment, with no clear indications, this could be an actual free agent deal for a roster spot, or just a summer contract for Cotton to try to earn a position on the roster.

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    Yes, it wouldn't be interesting except the article says, specifically, that it is NOT for a summer contract. Of course, the article could be wrong, but it dismissed that option early on.
    There was a "update" section at the end that implies he could be...

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    Last paragraph of the article:
    Yes, the last paragraph is the authour's SPECULATION that CONTRADICTS the SOURCE. From the SECOND paragraph where the author of the article is citing the actual SOURCE:

    "Charania confirmed to Project Spurs that the deal wouldn’t just be a Summer League deal, but an actual free agent contract that would have to be signed after July 1."

    Signing an undrafted FA to summer league would not really hold my attention. It would be boring, commonplace, and obvious. The prospects of what this article ACTUALLY reports, however, brings Patty, Cojo, and our dwindling roster spots into question.

    The source, again, could be in error, but he "confirms" the opposite of what you are.

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    A summer contract isn't the same thing as a summer-league contract. Summer contracts are just real contracts, but they aren't guaranteed, even for injury. They're used for camp fodder for the most part.

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    A summer contract isn't the same thing as a summer-league contract. Summer contracts are just real contracts, but they aren't guaranteed, even for injury. They're used for camp fodder for the most part.
    Yeah, he could already have a training camp invite, with the tacit understanding he'll be waived and Austin bound. The deal is good for the insurance, mainly. No need to read any more into it. There is always a chance Joseph will be traded, but there's no huge pressure to do so.

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    There was a "update" section at the end that implies he could be...
    It wasn't an update. It was just wiggle room: "My source may be wrong." CYA. But, it was not new information, unless the mobile version of the site doesn't show the entire article with the update.

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    It wasn't an update. It was just wiggle room: "My source may be wrong." CYA. But, it was not new information, unless the mobile version of the site doesn't show the entire article with the update.
    As I said above, the article is stating that Cotton may be signed to a summer contract (as opposed to a contract that would give him full injury guarantees if he gets hurt in camp). It's not saying he's being signed for the summer league in any event.

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    Watched some clips. Obviously only highlights (no DX video hence no spotlight on weaknesses) but kid seems to thrive in big game situations. Played full four years in college.

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    I'd be more interested in Bo McCaleb if the spurs are indeed looking to let patty walk and sign another pg.

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    As I said above, the article is stating that Cotton may be signed to a summer contract (as opposed to a contract that would give him full injury guarantees if he gets hurt in camp). It's not saying he's being signed for the summer league in any event.
    "It's not saying he's being signed for the summer league in any event."

    Of course it doesn't say this. It doesn't say anyone's being signed at all. It's discussing a REPORT. But, even the report doesn't claim that he's being signed to summer league. That's how the conversation began.

    The original reply was:

    'I'm sure the Spurs are just interested in him playing for their SL team. It doesn't make sense to give him an actual free agent deal. They could have just drafted him if they wanted him that bad. '

    Which refers to summer league, not summer contract. Then I referred him to this:

    "Charania confirmed to Project Spurs that the deal wouldn’t just be a Summer League deal, but an actual free agent contract that would have to be signed after July 1."

    Pretty cut and dried. Not a summer league deal, according to the source, despite DesignatedT's confidence that it was "just summer league". Only later did the issue of summer league vs. summer contract get introduced, unfortunately, incorrectly, as you point out.

    You pointed out twice that the author was stating that it may be for a summer contract, rather than a signing for a full roster spot or summer league, which each en le players to different rights. I read that. Thanks for stating it again. I am not sure what that has to do with it being an "update" or why you felt you needed to call attention to it a second time after the update comment, but thanks.

    However, the last paragraph still wasn't an update...

    "So at the moment,with no clear indications , this could be an actual free agent deal for a roster spot, or just a summer contract for Cotton to try to earn a position on the roster."

    This is not an update by any stretch of the definition. A conclusion, summary, yes. It is just speculation about what his source meant by "not just a summer league deal". He doesn't know, nor does he introduce any new information. He also, earlier, speculated about if the "report" was actually "true", at all. But, all of this is written at the time of the original article. There are no editing time stamps or language to lead one to believe it was an update? No new information, just speculation about what the source meant, or would actually occur.

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    I'd be more interested in Bo McCaleb if the spurs are indeed looking to let patty walk and sign another pg.
    For the record, I wouldn't even caution a guess as to who I think The Spurs FO is over-looking. I just thought I would share the information.

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    "It's not saying he's being signed for the summer league in any event."

    Of course it doesn't say this. It doesn't say anyone's being signed at all. It's discussing a REPORT. But, even the report doesn't claim that he's being signed to summer league. That's how the conversation began.

    The original reply was:

    'I'm sure the Spurs are just interested in him playing for their SL team. It doesn't make sense to give him an actual free agent deal. They could have just drafted him if they wanted him that bad. '

    Which refers to summer league, not summer contract. Then I referred him to this:

    "Charania confirmed to Project Spurs that the deal wouldn’t just be a Summer League deal, but an actual free agent contract that would have to be signed after July 1."

    Pretty cut and dried. Not a summer league deal, according to the source, despite DesignatedT's confidence that it was "just summer league". Only later did the issue of summer league vs. summer contract get introduced, unfortunately, incorrectly, as you point out.

    You pointed out twice that the author was stating that it may be for a summer contract, rather than a signing for a full roster spot or summer league, which each en le players to different rights. I read that. Thanks for stating it again. I am not sure what that has to do with it being an "update" or why you felt you needed to call attention to it a second time after the update comment, but thanks.

    However, the last paragraph still wasn't an update...

    "So at the moment,with no clear indications , this could be an actual free agent deal for a roster spot, or just a summer contract for Cotton to try to earn a position on the roster."

    This is not an update by any stretch of the definition. A conclusion, summary, yes. It is just speculation about what his source meant by "not just a summer league deal". He doesn't know, nor does he introduce any new information. He also, earlier, speculated about if the "report" was actually "true", at all. But, all of this is written at the time of the original article. There are no editing time stamps or language to lead one to believe it was an update? No new information, just speculation about what the source meant, or would actually occur.
    Bro, I was agreeing with you and clarifying what was confusing people into believing the article was contradictory.

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    Bro, I was agreeing with you and clarifying what was confusing people into believing the article was contradictory.
    It didn't sound so much like agreement. And, I did use summer league contract and summer contract loosely, incorrectly, and interchangably, later. But, cheers, all the same. Now we can move along with the rest of the thread that has scurried ahead to point out the mistakes the front office has made in choosing Bryce over their own superior picks!

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    Eh, the Toros can use him if Kabongo latches on somewhere this summer.

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    *!UPDATE!*

    http://projectspurs.com/2014-article...er-league.html

    So, nothing about summer contract, or full roster position, but instead the thing it wasn't supposed to be. Of course, maybe the others could come, but Charnaria appears to be a bad source.

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    If the Spurs interviewed Elfrid Payton and Shabazz Napier, and worked out Russ Smith, Bryce Cotton and Billy Baron...it seems they're actively looking for another PG. Unclear if that need/want has been satiated by drafting Anderson. Baron is a scoring PG, much like Cotton.

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    Mills insurance, in case he gets some kind of crazy offer, maybe.

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    Lets hope he chooses to come to us instead of the Mavericks. He may figure he has a better chance of making the Mavs roster rather than ours so he may choose them over us. No doubt, I think the Spurs are anticipating Mills leaving and are making contingency plans. Have to wait a couple of days to see what kind of crazy offers are going to be made.

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    This guy was an absolute stud at Providence. Carried the out of that team and they should have beat UNC and moved on to the Sweet 16 in the tournament this year.

    That said, the Spurs rarely give players with limited upside a chance. If they don't have the physical potential, then they have to prove themselves first like Patty Mills did with Portland and the Australian National Team. The only chance Cotton has at making the roster is if we lose Patty Mills in free agency, and the 3rd string PG spot becomes available. Also, he needs to ball out in both summer league and training camp. We'll see though, he's an interesting prospect if everything falls into place for him to make this team.

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    With Parker-Mills-CoJo (and I think we pay Mills 18-24/4 to keep him) we certainly don't need another PG, so this sound like a Toros development stash to me.

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