Love tony and timmy but the Tony pick and roll with Timmy hasn't done the spurs any good this year or last year at all.. The fact of the matter is that the spurs offense becomes stagnant when they rely on that two man system. With better options out there, I think it's time they completely abolish the mandatory tim and tony 8 minutes something spell of pick and roll between the two....
lol spurs fans hated Avery Johnson"s lack of offense, and been begging for a scoring point guard for a long time. Then come these ban wagon fans saying how should be made. why don't you just enjoy having an all star point guard and be happy with the players we have.
Guess we're just going to throw out the 21ppg/5apg/49%FG Parker averaged in the first 2 rounds.
As soon as the role players start missing shots, who is going to have to bail them out?
Why can't we love all our players? They all bring some other dynamic aspect to the game.
The more weapons the better.
Yay! Another statement from someone who clearly doesn't know what he's talking about! Did you watch any of the games this year at all?
So dumb so dumb
Everyone is going to miss having an all-star point guard when Tony is gone.
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Spurs have 4 les with Parker as starting PG.
Spurfan logic: Can't win with Parker
lolwut?
We need Parker. No player is perfect. End of story.
4 les with him starting, 0 les as "Parker's team"
Stats always look great on paper. Spurs could've won the Dallas series pretty easily if they simply exposed the Ellis-Leonard matchup, while having the obvious defensive match ups of Green on Ellis and KL on Carter and not the other way around.
That's on Pop
Well he's playing with Tim Duncan, so that's nothing to be ashamed of
No they wouldn't have. That's exactly what the Mavs wanted. Kawhi isn't as polished in offense and they were double teaming him. And he struggled.
Tony adjusted during the playoffs. He went into distribution mode.
Distributors must maintain the threat of being able to go solo. He must remain a threat to get 4 or 5 buckets in a row. The pick and roll with Timmy can still work if Tim could hit a damn elbow jumper again. It's a weapon that remains in the arsenal. Look at Nash now. He can't really beat anyone, what happens to his assists, they plummet. Tony is not there yet.
See 2007
Duncan has always been the leader of this team, he deserved the MVP in '07, not Tony (after abusing DBG). I honestly think that's what ended the Spurs' success. The FMVP went to Parker's head and Pop got all delusional as well, they completely forgot about TD being the true MVP, Manu also played a huge role as well.
Against Daniel Boobie Gibson, TD was the best player every single series prior to that, and was huge in locking James down. If that was Kobe in try hard mode abusing that matchup you know damn well Spur fan would've thrown a fit.
KL Why don't you reply to me? Is it, because you don't know what you're talking about?
They rarely got him the ball, and when they did it's mostly 1 on 1 stuff with little help from his teammates. They fed Leonard the ball in the post a few times and he scored on Ellis, when double teams came he passed out, SA moved the ball and broke down the defense, they rarely did this.
I have faith in Pop doing the right thing next year. No more 2 centers clogging the paint and severely limiting his ability to penetrate, get him more touches, actually run plays for him, etc. the only guy I'm worried about is TP ball hogging.
Did you see the Phoenix series? They put Marion on Parker (after he torched Nash) and he used Tim on the PNR to perfection.
Watch it again. That was Tonys team.
Duncan is always necessary, always. But that year was Parker using Tim and his speed. Tony can only play against who they put in front of him. Gibson argument is a cop out.
For someone who creates so many threads, you still need a lot of coaching..you even ed up the thread le. You are nearly the Jeff Ayers of ST, apalisoc_9
And who was Parker locking down the entire playoffs? Defense you know, the other 50% of the game. TD effects everyone on the court, it's why I'll always value big men/forwards over guards who can just effect 1 person. I think the only series I saw TP play defense this year was against Lillard, a series they won with him sitting.
They rarely gave him the ball because they knew it wouldn't work. Yeah Kawhi made some shots over Ellis but he wouldn't be able to do it over the series.
Everyone clearly saw Kawhi play like chit in that series. Giving him the ball would be counter intuitive.
Kawhi is going to be our next franchise player that I know he will be, but he wasn't going to win us that series.
I hope going forward Pop runs more offense through him.
Not being held back the way he was by his team/coach, no.
Dude it does not matter.
If you can take advantage of a situation you do so.
Tony did that in 2007.
The debate is on 2007, I did not mention this year as MvParker.
Tim could be MVP any playoff series just because of the D.
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