It's not a coincidence that the spurs just suddenly went on a losing streak when they lost kawhi and danny...They are actually irreplaceable at this point. The spurs could actually cover up Duncan, Timmy or Parker's absence but they can't cover up Kawhi and danny.
Kawhi is truly the Most Valuable player in the team if you highlight value...
I think we should all take down our nostalgia glasses and accept the fact that Kawhi is more valuable to this team than any of the big 3..In a sense that, without Kawhi, the spurs will most likely struggle and will a significal fall in terms of winning %..They most likely will go down from a 60 plus winning team to something like 50-55...Without Kawhi and Danny, they will most likely be an 8th seed..
I can say with supreme confidence that even without Manu and Tony, the spurs will still be a 55 win team.
I'm one of the few guys who still argues Kawhi/Danny/Tiago are just as valuable as Tony/Manu/Tim.. but c'mon, Spurs would be straight up ed without Duncan.
if danny ever learns to dribble
Nope
Splitter-Diaw-Leonard-Green/Ginobili-Parker is a 55-60 win team..there's diaw and Tiago...Both are capable players that can cover up Duncan. Spurs are obviously better with Duncan but Losing Kawhi is game over for the spurs..Irrelevance is the word.
Kawhi, Splitter, and Danny are actually more valuable at this point...People hate change, People hate seeing their stars go away, but it's the truth..
Ok maybe not Duncan, but Kawhi and Danny at this point is > Tony and Manu..
But Splitter is the second most underrated spur right now.
2/10
The lack of recognition the meduim 3 gets mainly because spurs fans are so scared to let go of their boyhood heroes and overall nostalgia is disgusting!..
Tony showed great leadership, Manu was phenomenal and timmy is the old fundamental...But It's ridiculous how underrated the meduim three are specially Danny and Tiago..
"In the team"
Imagine the Spurs without Duncan/Splitter. We could better recover without kawhi/danny then without duncan/splitter.
Diaw and Tiago fill the void for Duncan about as well as Ginobili and Green could fill in for Leonard.. both of which are not very good
Look at some of the monster games Duncan had in the playoffs. No other Spurs big could make up for that, no matter how good they are at defense/passing.
I personally feel Kawhi and Duncan are the 2 most valuable Spurs.. for Parker-Ginobili-Leonard-Splitter-Duncan with Diaw, Mills, and Belinelli on the bench could probably beat that starting five you listed.
WTF that doesn't even make sense...of course losing both duncan and splitter=game over....
English is my fourth language....I learned ABC's when I was 14.."In the team"
Pretty sure I've mentioned that a million times already. Not bad for a fourth language imo
True.. then again, replacing Green and Leonard with Mills and Ginobili in the starting five would also be catastrophic defensively.
Fact is.. Spurs are complete in their current form. Take away 1 or 2 pieces and suddenly the entire team changes, that's how valuable each player is.
You said most improtant duo and then talked about when the spurs were without green and Kawhi at the same time.
I left out Timmy..I do think that in the playoff the spurs would need a big that can create a shot for himself ( Diaw alone won't suffice), but in terms of RS KL is actually more valuable. Considering how weak the league is in terms of Good big men, Duncan really isn't that much of a huge loss since that line up I typed is more than enough to get a top 3 seed. The league have an abundance of Skilled 1's, 2's and 3's...Losing an elite defender, is huge....Diaw and Tiago fill the void for Duncan about as well as Ginobili and Green could fill in for Leonard.. both of which are not very good
Look at some of the monster games Duncan had in the playoffs. No other Spurs big could make up for that, no matter how good they are at defense/passing.
I personally feel Kawhi and Duncan are the 2 most valuable Spurs.. for Parker-Ginobili-Leonard-Splitter-Duncan with Diaw, Mills, and Belinelli on the bench could probably beat that starting five you listed.
Diaw is prob the most important player along with Kawhi. The big 3 is still good for what they do; but without Diaw and Kawhi.. we won't win the championship
In the Playoff, they are obviously just as important..RS is a different story though because you have to consider other other teams. The league today is full of Skilled Guards and Forwards today.. ty teams and mediocre teams that the spurs don't need to worry about will be nightmare in the RS...
Imo, it all comes down to what kind of talent the league have right now.
IMO, if the league is filled with Great big men..I'd say losing Diaw-Duncan-Splitter would a minus 5 or 10 in the win coloum but it's not though.
In the Playoff, they are obviously just as important..RS is a different story though because you have to consider other other teams. The league is full of Skilled Guards and Forwards today.. ty teams and mediocre teams that the spurs don't need to worry about will be nightmare in the RS...
Imo, it all comes down to what kind of talent the league have right now.
IMO, if the league is filled with Great big men..I'd say losing Diaw-Duncan-Splitter would a minus 5 or 10 in the win coloum but it's not though.
We should avoid cliches that absoutely not true since that takes away value from players that are clearly more valuable...The spurs did just fine without Parker and Will do just fine in the RS with Parker or Ginobili...
Take out Green or Kawhi or both and you probably have 50% team..
? Are you saying the SPurs wouldn't miss a beat in the RS with Baynes, Ayres, and Bonner as our big men? Or do you mean missing only one of the trio above? Because missing both Splitter and Duncan is exponentially worse than just missing one of them.
Two guys make one duo, not two.
I meant one of them..
Although my point is that missing of one kawhi or danny is a bigger loss in the RS than missing one of Tiago and Duncan...
Kawhi maybe, but not green. But the SPurs stil did pretty well in the RS before kawhi and green got here and we sucked at those spots. Since then,although tony is worse, Duncan hasn't really gotten worse and splitter is better than blair, so how did the Spurs win so much without Kawhi and green?
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