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lebron winning with cavs wont do for him
duncan has already solidify his position as top5 goat...
who u going to bump down for lebron? he already loss twice to duncan and losing to another tosb dirk...
How would this define his legacy? Would this put him unanimously as the 2nd overall greatest player in the history of the game?
Also, how would this affect Lebron's legacy? Assuming of course the Cavs advance in the Finals.
lebron winning with cavs wont do for him
duncan has already solidify his position as top5 goat...
who u going to bump down for lebron? he already loss twice to duncan and losing to another tosb dirk...
It seems that back to back is all the rage these days. Winning a LOBT isnt enough. A back to back would go a long way to quelling the denizens in the basement here. A three-peat? Well that should quiet their collective pie-holes for good.
Lebron winning with Cleveland puts him in God status in Ohio tbh.
TD winning his 6th will place him top 3 all time imho. I got him inside top 5 now.
I already have Duncan at Top 3 but winning another, b2b at that would probably put him above Magic. Let's face it. Winning les is really important for players like him.
Lebron isn't going down but it's just interesting to see how people would perceive his legacy if he loses another NBA Finals. It would also mark the third time against Duncan's team.
No effect les mean little in regards to legacy ...
or so I have been told ...
Never understood that honestly. I know it's a team accomplishment but as the best player of a championship team, this should carry a whole lot of weight. The NBA season is a long ride, to diminish the ultimate goal of every team year in and out is ridiculous IMO.
He is just saying that because the BSPN talking heads already have LBJ over Kobe despite his Finals record and 2 les
I don't think winning more rings will elevate Duncan's all time status, because he's not the main cog any longer. Would Shaq be ranked higher if he had 5 rings, if he got one with another team playing 20 minutes a night or so? If someone else gets the finals MVP?
Tim is who he is, and the rankings, if honest about "greatest", have to consider his entire body of work. Another ring won't hurt him, but unless he takes the team on his shoulders, he's not going to be considered any better for it by most "pundits". Even the blip from ring 5 will revert to Kobe talk after the beginning of the new season. You'll see.
Bad take. Rings are incredibly important.
If he has another playoff run like this year and leads the team in minutes, PER, WinShares, offensive boards, defensive boards, total boards, FTA and blocks, and is second on the team in PTS, FG%, and FGA then top-3.
That's why Horry is ranked above Jordan, Magic, Bird and Jabbar.
lol, way to take it to the extreme. It is different with superstars than role players, but if a superstar wins one as a 2nd option they wont kill them for it and it can only help their legacy. If Kobe was 3rd banana to a le team and he got his sixth, i guarantee you that everyone would say that puts him back in front of Duncan and in the conversation with Michael Jordan so gtfo
using rings to rank players is the most antiquated ranking method in sports, tbh..
People that use rings as a point of argument are generally incapable of understanding numbers/logic/cir stances, etc..
2014 Kawhi Leonard >>> 1988 Michael Jordan, tbh..
2004 Chauncey Billups >>> 2006 Kobe Bryant..
Tim is not top 3. I have MJ, Magic, Kareem and I guess Russell ahead of him.
So, I'm curious how you measure it because I know you're a huge advocate of this. You seriously can't say it's just numbers or advance stats and MVP's are media driven awards.
People that use rings as a point of argument are generally incapable of understanding numbers/logic/cir stances, etc..
But it's silly to use a season of their career as reference...
lol Russell, most overrated player in NBA history. I would have Kareem ahead unless Duncan gets #6
It's a combination of everything..there's no specific formula or accolade to rank players..
Dad Killer is the greatest of all-time because he ranks well in any metric or accolade you can use: advanced stats, rings, awards, performances in big games, overall level of both offense and defense, etc..
I absolutely hate when anybody says DK was the greatest because of "rings" or because of his "Finals record"(as if its better to lose in the conference finals
It doesn't make any sense to say X player is greater than another guy simply because he has more rings..
I wasn't referring to their careers, I was comparing a single season..
There's no way 2004 Billups had a better season than 2006 Kobe, just because the former's season ended with a championship ring..
Duncan had a very good playoff run, so ya, this past championship run helps his case, but not in a major way(since he wasn't the primary cog, as this Spurs team didn't have a superstar player)..
If he plays well again next year in another le run, then sure, it helps, but it wouldn't hold the same weight if he struggles during the playoffs and the Spurs still win the le(see: Tony Parker)..
If Duncan struggles they ain't winning
lol mentioning the coatrider like he had anything to do with duncans runs last 2 seasons...duncan put up his usual per 36 numbers, had enrique not been a wanker and pass the ball more, duncan wouldve scored more
Back to back is overrated. Arguably, leading your team to winning championships 5-6 years apart has much more merit, even more so when you do it more than once. It shows consistent dominance.
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