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One of the best guards to ever play the game
Since we're getting bombarded with threads about retired players, here's my contribution: The Glove, Gary Payton
A true compe or, and unlike pedo Malone, he was eventually rewarded with a ring, tbh...
One of the best guards to ever play the game
boring top 10, tbh, mostly fastbreak passes with no defenders..
Pretty sad that the 3rd best play of Gary Payton's career is a crossover that occurs in virtually every single game nowadays
A nice 90s highlight video for a PG would be Penny Hardaway(if you consider him a PG) or even Kevin Johnson, tbh..
Damn MH has a long list
He's on a mission
tbh, he was more known for his big mouth than his play, IMO.
Pretty sad that the 3rd best play of Gary Payton's career is a crossover that occurs in virtually every single game nowadays
A nice 90s highlight video for a PG would be Penny Hardaway(if you consider him a PG) or even Kevin Johnson, tbh..
He finished over Malone, in an ERA where guys were openly elbowed in the face
Pretty sad that the 3rd best play of Gary Payton's career is a crossover that occurs in virtually every single game nowadays
A nice 90s highlight video for a PG would be Penny Hardaway(if you consider him a PG) or even Kevin Johnson, tbh..
You can't compare it to the defense-less NBA of today.
9 X All-Defense. DPOY in 1996
What was MJ's shooting percentage vs Seattle in 96 ?
Patrick Willis and Luke Kuechly are superior NBA defenders to Serge Ibaka because they're better tacklers
What is the old saying: Defense is 75% effort?
Very few players in todays NBA give a about Defense.
The 90s NBA teams and players were very fortunate to not have YouTube, Twitter, forums, etc, tbh..
It has given them an undeserved mystique and aura, when in reality, it was some of the worst basketball you'll ever see..
Today's fans complain about OKC and their lack of offensive creativity, yet they play the same style that virtually every single elite team in the 90s played
The majority of the 90s was teams that looked like the Indiana Pacers of the past 2 years, the same Pacers that today's fans complain about
Today's fans have been spoiled by the wizardry and ball movement of the Spurs and Lebron Heat..they complain about teams like OKC and Indiana and their lack of a system, but that's the only style that 90s teams knew how to play
I've actually contemplated showing my little cousins videos of 90s basketball(because they've asked me questions about some of the players they have heard about), but I'm not ready yet, tbh..I'm genuinely afraid they would be turned off from the sport of basketball if they watched the era "the greatest of all-time Michael Jordan" actually played in..
And yet the 80s stunk despite the high scoring because they don't play defense.
Circular logic.
"Hey Harlem, how come these guys can't dribble the basketball without looking at it?"
"Hey Harlem, how come all these great PGs don't have any triple threat moves or quick handles?"
"Hey Harlem, why do these teams run isolation on every single play?"
"Hey Harlem, how come none of these guys can shoot 3s?"
"Hey Harlem, how come these defensive schemes are so vanilla?"
"Hey Harlem, why is everything so congested on the court?"
"Hey Harlem, what happened to Michael Jordan's dad?"
Damn, man, I have nightmares about some of the questions they would ask, tbh..
guards didnt have quick handles????
Ever heard of KJ or Tim Hardaway? and they didnt carry the ball like today's "superstars" guards
Why more iso back then? different rules, and better 1 on 1 players
As for shooting 3's , it's the evolution of the game; if you want to gloat about soft gotty big men who are afraid to muscle it up inside, sure go ahead
Defensive shcemes vanilla ? again, different rules
I dont know what happened to you in the 90's HH
Harlem's little cousins ask him about Basketball?
Whenever he gets a crack at Dad Killer, he doesn't miss does he?
Your a fan of modern pussyball. It's okay.The 90s NBA teams and players were very fortunate to not have YouTube, Twitter, forums, etc, tbh..
It has given them an undeserved mystique and aura, when in reality, it was some of the worst basketball you'll ever see..
Today's fans complain about OKC and their lack of offensive creativity, yet they play the same style that virtually every single elite team in the 90s played
The majority of the 90s was teams that looked like the Indiana Pacers of the past 2 years, the same Pacers that today's fans complain about
Today's fans have been spoiled by the wizardry and ball movement of the Spurs and Lebron Heat..they complain about teams like OKC and Indiana and their lack of a system, but that's the only style that 90s teams knew how to play
Your take is also asinine. There was more post play but player migration was not as easy and teams tended to stay together for long periods of time.
Price and the Cavs were not simple.
Magic and Divac were not simple.
Johnson's Suns were not simple.
Bulls triangle was not isoball like you claim.
You wouldn't think your cousin's would respect Hakeem's game?
Stockton to Malone was not simple.
Karl's Sonics were not simple.
They would love the monkeyball of Shaq and Penny.
The mindless grinders like Portland, NY and Detroit might be the brand of basketball that you are talking about.
Kevin Durant would not be able to function with the rules as they were in the nineties especially with how the playoffs were called. He wouldn't get 10 FTpg.
This.
Harlem s on the 90's constantly not my favorite era either but glove to Reign man was a beauty to watch ...and unlike most great PG he played great defense.
Fuzzy, you're a good guy(a bit of an asshole and condescending, though) and knowledgeable poster, despite you not respecting my opinions on the NBA, but it's evident from the onset that your take is bias, as you refer to today's game as "pussyball", tbh..
I can't have a serious discussion with somebody when they're blatantly disrespecting the skills and talent of today's players like that..
Harlem's worried about his little cousin being a re and asking things that never happened.
Which begs the question: "Harlem, whys your little cousin a re ? Does it run in the family?"
Lebrons top ten:
7 or the top 10 were results of isolation plays with zero offensive schemes. One is a fastbreak similar to Payton's highlight, one is a desperation heave and only one involves ball movement where Lebron went back door on an alleyoop.
Harlem must hate Lebron ball and is worrying about his little cousin asking him why players don't pass the ball when there are 5 guys on the court.
lol no
He was known for his D.
Which makes me question MH's comment quite a bit.
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