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I doubt anyone outside of right wing blogs cares about the Gruber testimony.
Six things to watch for in CIA report
Hmmmm... What could be about to happen from which this administration would like to distract public attention?
Jonathan Gruber Agrees to Testify Before House Committee
THAT'S TODAY? Who knew?
I doubt anyone outside of right wing blogs cares about the Gruber testimony.
Well, they should.
The administration hires a guy, loans him to Congress to write the most significant piece of legislation of our time, and then parades him around the country singing the praises of the law -- as if he were an independent expert.
Yeah, it's kind of a big deal.
That he revealed the ruses employed by this administration to get to 51 votes and placate the likes of you, is just icing on the cake.
Wow, you make it seem even less significant that it is.
If the Republicans had any alternative to Obamacare, they could introduce it at anytime.
Have they?
Gruber didn't write ACA. The writing was directed by Liz Folwer, health insurance industry exec/lobbyist.
Gruber was right. Americans are pretty stupid, ignorant, esp the right wingers, Christians, bubbas, rednecks, Repug voters, and above most are politically disengaged, disaffected by the Repug MISgovernance.
US media surely doesn't.
Non-US media apparently doesn't either.
FWIW, CIA Director response to the report:
https://www.cia.gov/news-information...n-program.html
The Democrat leadership seem to think he was pretty instrumental in its drafting.
Actually, Gruber wasn't referring to the people who were actually trying to tell the world they were lying. Most of the ruses to which he admitted on video were already being described by the Right and, summarily being dismissed by the Left.
GRUBERGHAZI!
I, for one, welcome conservatives' new-found scrutiny into the people who write and contribute to the legislation that gets passed through Congress. I look forward to their continued scrutiny on future special interest bills.
I also commend the newfound respect for the American voter and his value to democracy.
"conservatives' new-found scrutiny into the people who write and contribute to the legislation"
not BLUE'd?
link?
BigCorp, BigFinance, ALEC, right-wing stink tanks, lobbyists, etc write all of Repug state and federal legislation. Can you show otherwise?
You are so, so dumb."conservatives' new-found scrutiny into the people who write and contribute to the legislation"
not BLUE'd?
BigCorp, BigFinance, ALEC, right-wing stink tanks, lobbyists, etc write all of Repug state and federal legislation. Can you show otherwise?
You claim to not be a RNC shill but you certainly like to parrot the RNC line.
#GRUBER
It's good to know that we can avoid talking about the troubling matters actually included in the report by questioning the timing of its release.
Did you learn anything new from the report, FWD?
To what US media are you referring?
You certainly didn't use the internet.
What media have you been monitoring today that you can make a blanket statement like that?
Yes, it's getting attention now.
Have to love how Darrin dissembles from the question. Sophist piece of is as sophist piece of does.
Today’s CIA critics once urged the agency to do anything to fight al-Qaeda
The leaders of the Senate and House Intelligence Committees and of both parties in Congress were briefed on the program more than 40 times between 2002 and 2009. But Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) tried to deny that she was told in 2002 that detainees had been waterboarded. That is simply not true. I was among those who briefed her.
There’s great hypocrisy in politicians’ criticism of the CIA’s interrogation program. In the wake of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, lawmakers urged us to do everything possible to prevent another attack on our soil. Members of Congress and the administration were nearly unanimous in their desire that the CIA do all that it could to debilitate and destroy al-Qaeda. The CIA got the necessary approvals to do so and kept Congress briefed throughout. But as our successes grew, some lawmakers’ recollections shrank in regard to the support they once offered. Here are a couple of reminders.
On May 26, 2002, Feinstein was quoted in the New York Times saying that the attacks of 9/11 were a real awakening and that it would no longer be “business as usual.” The attacks, she said, let us know “that the threat is profound” and “that we have to do some things that historically we have not wanted to do to protect ourselves.”
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If Feinstein, Rockefeller and other politicians were saying such things in print and on national TV, imagine what they were saying to us in private. We did what we were asked to do, we did what we were assured was legal, and we know our actions were effective. Our reward, a decade later, is to hear some of these same politicians expressing outrage for what was done and, even worse, mischaracterizing the actions taken and understating the successes achieved.
What are you trying to say?
Use your words.
If you can't figure out, no words are necessary, tbh.
I figure that bringing up someone scheduling a hearing when the conclusion of a 5 year investigation comes about is certainly sticking your head in the sand.
Is that what you meant?
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