Time for the signs to sign Richard Dumas.
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Are Nicky and Finley the Payton and Malone of a few years ago? Gravy training for a ring only to have it backfire. Spurs are better, but ya still have to play the games.
Time for the signs to sign Richard Dumas.
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@ Richard Dumas
nope. unlike the lakers, the rest of our squad, and our coach, know how to act like professionals.
Spurs still have to play the games, but phoenix is still insignificant. You just remind me how disappointing it was not to sweep the suns. At least you got to witness the beating in person.
whaaaat?? Are the "signs" a new team?![]()
could it be that you're reaching for excuses to feel better about the fact that the Suns were a one season glitch and the Spurs just made their decade?
But you can't deny they are gravy training. If they get the ring all the better for them, but they are gravy training.
The obvious diff. being those two were starters, these two are starting caliber players coming off the bench.
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not at all, Spurs have never repeated. Also, they are trying to be part of one of the best basketball teams of all-time. Spurs have the best shot at 70 games than anyone in a long time.
It is funny how everyone on this site crapped on LA and Miami for getting over the hill players for a final run at the finals. There are a few differences here, our guys come in knowing that they are backups(hopefully). But I do have some issues with these signings and chemistry is definitely one of the issues.
They will be good, but 70 is highly, highly unlikely. 60-65 is more likely.
The Suns are cold ... now called the Signs.
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They took less money for the chance to win a le. Are you saying you would rather have players that care more about the money?But you can't deny they are gravy training. If they get the ring all the better for them, but they are gravy training.
Spurs w/out Finley, Van Exel >>>>> Lakers w/out Payton,Malone
We never needed them. They're just jumping on the wagon.
Screw number of reg season wins. All I care about is the LOB Trophy. winning 4 outa every 7 games in the playoffs is all that matters!!
Only difference clown.
These guys arent gonna be starters.
THey are 15 to 20 minute a game guys.
Not 40 like what the Lakers depended on with Malone and Payton.
Totally different Assclown.
Nothing wrong with that, but it's called gravy training. I didn't say it was good or bad, just what it is. JoJo certainly cared more about $$ than a ring and I could care less that he's gone.
I think it's an entirely different situation. Payton and Malone were signed by the Lakers coming off of a 2nd Round elimination and the realization that they could not deal with Tim Duncan effectively (but who can, really?). They went to LA to be major difference makers -- starters who would play big minutes every night. LA needed those guys if they were to have any chance to win.
I think Tim Duncan summarized the Spurs position position with Nick and Fin pretty nicely. He reportedly told Nick, "We'd love to have you, but we don't need you." The same holds true for Fin. These are luxuries who provide better depth to a strong team; but they aren't the difference between winning and not winning in 2005-06.
The ultimate truth in SA is that the Spurs go as far as Tim takes them. His burden is eased by the quality of the guys around him (compare 2002 and 2003) and that's why it helps the Spurs to build depth. But the truth is that if Tim Duncan is injured and out for the year, it doesn't matter who else is in the starting lineup and who is coming off the bench. No Tim = No le.
Its not gravy training...gravy training is a negative thing. It means you are hanging on someone's coattails and enjoying their success without contributing anything. Van Exel and Finley will contribute or they will be gone....plain and simple.Nothing wrong with that, but it's called gravy training. I didn't say it was good or bad, just what it is. JoJo certainly cared more about $$ than a ring and I could care less that he's gone.
The difference is simple:
The Lakers sign players first and figure out how to fit them in later.
The Spurs isolate their needs first, and find players to fit the mold.
Payton and Malone were both going to the hall of fame no matter what, and they just wanted that final bit of validation. They all admitted it. The courtship revolved around the upcomming NBA Finals.
NVE and Finley are both solid players, and big names, but their careers have not reached that top tier quite yet. NVE has sported a reputation has a head case for the better part of his career, while has been the good offensive player who is consistently overpaid and expected to carry too much weight. NEITHER of them signed with the Spurs wanting to be in the spotlight. They didn't bring their new jerseys to the MTV Music Video Awards. They wanted that final piece to validate their reputations, and to their careers, not their fingers.
So they signed up for Pop: 101.
[QUOTE=Trainwreck2100]The obvious diff. being those two were starters, these two are starting caliber players coming off the bench.QUOTE]
Exactly!! They already know their role and there is very little pressure. They will both prolong their careers with this move just like Robert Horry.
They may or not be gravy training, but they are actually very good at the positions we WERE thinnest at.
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Bill Carnage has a better understanding of bitterness than he does gravy training.
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