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I perhaps should add, for those not familiar with PER, that:
- PER sets the "league average player" to be 15.0
- PER largely measures offensive performance
- More info here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Player_efficiency_rating
Spurs PER in this series (for players that have played 25+ mins, mins played in parenthesis):
Tim Duncan: 24.0 (250)
Patty Mills: 23.2 (112)
Marco Belinelli: 20.5 (116)
Kawhi Leonard: 19.7 (250)
Manu Ginobili: 16.9 (131)
Boris Diaw: 16.3 (198)
Danny Green: 10.4 (204)
Tiago Splitter: 6.9 (123)
Tony Parker: 6.3 (210)
Aaron Baynes: 1.2 (40)
Matt Bonner: -2.4 (36)
For comparison, here are the same numbers for the Clippers:
Blake Griffin: 26.0 (288)
Chris Paul: 25.4 (275)
Deandre Jordan: 18.2 (252)
Matt Barnes: 10.8 (197)
JJ Red : 9.4 (274)
Austin Rivers: 9.4 (99)
Jamal Crawford: 8.8 (181)
Glen Davis: 7.5 (85)
These are the finals numbers for the series.
My notes so far (after Game 2):
- Mills: He has given us solid minutes this series (esp game two, obviously). Unless he stays scorching hot, his PER is bound to regress, but hopefully he can stay in the 20 area. I think his speed gives the Clips problem.
- Marco: He's been a surprising positive on the offensive end. I always thought Pop would play him over Danny to look for more offense, especially on the road, and if that was the gamble, it has paid off so far.
- Boris: I commented this has not been his series so far. I don't like the matchup with big baby on the post. It's also difficult for him to post Griffin with DJ ready to help. He did miss a ton of clean looks, inside and outside, so I feel he's just due to have a breakout offensive game.
- Splitter: Another guy that's hurt and limited, it also means we have a small sample. With Tiago, I'm more focused on what he can do on defense than offense, although if he could chip in some more offensive production, that would be great.
- Green: Danny seemed to pick up the slack on offense a bit on the 2nd game, but we just need more from him. I think he will gain some confidence if he starts hitting a bit more consistently from outside. The shots have been there, and he's been better in that aspect in Game 2.
- Tony: He's clearly limited. Not going to expound too much on a topic already widely covered. Pop will have to be smart with his minutes if Tony wants to play. We're going to need more contributions from other guys to make up some of his offensive production. Patty has done some, but Boris and Danny need to raise their offensive value too.
- Tim, Kawhi, Manu, Baynes: I thought these guys, more or less, gave us what was expected of them, at least offensively. In a way, it's crazy to think you expect Tim to give you his career PER at 39, but old man riverwalk continues to deliver.
- Clippers: Very top-heavy production, their top 4 guys are really the workhorse here, which is what was expected. The Spurs have done a very good job limiting Red and Barnes impact. This will have to continue as the series moves along, as they're primarily 3 point shooters that can do damage if left unchecked. On the other hand, if the Spurs can somewhat lessen the impact of Paul, Blake or Crawford in any significant way, it looks unlikely that the Clippers would have enough.
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After Game 3:
- Kawhi: His 32pt explosion in Game 3 moves him ahead of Patty in the ranks. He had an all around phenomenal game, and his production through 3 games is nothing short of phenomenal.
- Mills: He was bound to regress from his hot shooting game in Game 2, but he's still knocking shots at a good clip, which the Spurs will need.
- Marco: He keeps producing, and it appears Doc won't punish the Spurs for having Marco out on the court, which is puzzling for somebody regarded as a great coach in the league, tbh.
- Boris: In one fell swoop, Boris went from below average to above average. Very complete game from Bobo, who was due a performance like that.
- Danny: He did most of his damage on the defensive end, but he also was able to drive without turning it over, and his rebounding was much needed. Ascending.
- Clippers: Red continues to struggle, and Crawford had a terrible game that moved him into the below average player category.
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After Game 4:
- Mills: Still regressing a bit to the mean, but still giving us solid minutes and scoring.
- Marco: His stock keeps going up. We'll see if Pop feels he needs a larger role.
- Boris: He played well, but he can give us more.
- Danny: After a great game 3, his outside shot was nowhere to be found in Game 4. We'll need more from Danny 3 point prowess if we're to advance.
- Tiago: His stock keeps plummeting. Shades of the useful player he was last season. Perhaps the injury does keep him limited.
- Tony: He scored better in this game, reflected in his PER. But he's still nowhere near where we need him to be.
- Clippers: This was the Austin Rivers game, smh... for the most part, the Spurs have done a good job with all the Clippers role players.
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After Game 5:
- Mills: Just gotta keep on riding the hot hand. The Clippers bench seemingly has no answer to him.
- Marco: Terrific minutes and timely shots. The way some Spurs have struggled to make shots, his steady hand has been a boon.
- Boris: 4th quarter Boris was amazing to see. Made plays, shots, steals. Gotta cut down on the foul trouble.
- Danny: We're still on the icy stage here. Hopefully it's not mental at this point. The good news is that if he shots well next game, we're probably done with this series.
- Tiago: Just bad. Really bad. Obviously hindered. Now if you look at Baynes or Bonner up there, Pop's hands are really tied up here.
- Clippers: JJRed looked like he was going to have a breakout game for this series, but foul trouble hampered him. Really a blessing since Crawford was back to missing everything.
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After Game 6:
- Kawhi: Biggest PER dropout in the last two games. He's going to have to conjure his offense anew if the Spurs will stand a chance on Game 7.
- Marco: Magical in game 6. Should've played more minutes, IMO.
- Patty: He's consistently been the best Spurs PG offensively in this series since Game 2. Pop should look into expanding his role in Game 7.
- Danny: Just an overall disappointing series for Danny. Some will point out his defense, but at this stage the Spurs need more than that especially on an anemic starting lineup, and Danny used to be able to deliver.
- Splitter: He actually played better in Game 6, but his missed FTs were costly.
- Tony: If gimpy Parker is jumper Parker, the Spurs might need to look somewhere else for production. Through 6 games he's dragged the offense down and been unable to make a positive impact offensively by a wide margin.
Feel free to add your own notes, tbh
Last edited by ElNono; 05-03-2015 at 11:03 PM.
I perhaps should add, for those not familiar with PER, that:
- PER sets the "league average player" to be 15.0
- PER largely measures offensive performance
- More info here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Player_efficiency_rating
Put some D work on Blake and everything will be a lot easier.
Kawhi can handle more minutes.
1.8
He's a true warrior and our hero baller
If we could keep the agendas off this thread, that would be great, tbh. Thanks.
But, they're so easily trolled.
We don't have an answer for Blake.
doesn't PER also factor in rebounds/steals/blocks?
Danny's PER should rise signifcantly if he has a good shooting night. His non-3PT shooting has regressed badly to start the series. Luckily, like Chinook said, already he hit 3-4 from 3 in GM 2 and that was with yo-yo minutes.
Parker would've played 6 more minutes if he didn't quit. That's too much time for our worse player.
It does, but it has a clear bias towards offensive production, something Hollinger freely admits. More info about that on the wiki link.
But, they're so easily trolled.
crawford is playing well. any ideas on how to slow him down?
let him keep shooting. for his career, he's a 41% shooter from the field. for the season, he's been at 39.6%
he was 4-13 in game 2 (31%). the more he shoots, thats less looks for Paul/Griffin. if he's going to make a bunch of fluke shots in a row, we're going to live with it
One of the few times I remember where the eye ball test and PER match up.
idk. seems like career avgs go out the window when scrubs play the spurs.
We should, he is having a great series, if not we have to neutralize CP3 ASAP.
Too bad Baynes wont play and Errors is Errors.
we should be very grateful to Tony that he took himself out of the game and thus avoided a catastrophic second loss.
I think ideally Kawhi is probably the best guy. Crawford has a penchant for kicking the leg on his shots, and I feel Danny would get called for phantom fouls against him while just contesting.
The thing is, Jamal is no playmaker. He'll shoot, and considering the Clippers bench in general is pretty awful, the Spurs can help a bit more to cover and contest his shots.
Sometimes he can get scorching hot, and it really doesn't matter who you put on him, tbh... just gotta make sure you score on the other end and make up the difference.
You don't put kawhi on any of the best players the first two quarters. You're risking offense.
Unless, they have two or three superstars..you hide him then have them defend on the fourth..
it seems pretty obvious...Pop has done this multiple times..The only time you see kawhi against the best offensive perimeter player is in the fourth or if there is two or three superstars in the opposing team.
Kawhi is not a defense only kinda player anymore..he's averaging 21ppg this series.
Yeah, I don't think the Spurs will put Kawhi on him, just pointing out who is probably the best suited defender out of our guys.
yeah, green on crawford would be a disaster. lets hope he's off tonight
kawhi on re is fine. CP3 and Blake are going to get their's regardless imo. let Green make CP3 work, and let kawhi completely take re out of the game. slap kawhi on CP3 in the final frame
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