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    A regular Texas shoot 'em up.

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    Garland (United States) (AFP) - A Texas traffic policeman shot dead two suspected Islamist gunmen with his pistol after they opened fire with assault rifles and tried to storm an event staged by an anti-Muslim group, police said Monday.

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    There was no confirmed claim of responsibility for Sunday's failed assault, but an FBI official told US media that one of the attackers had been previously investigated as an alleged would-be jihadist militant.

    ABC news, citing an FBI official, said Monday that agents had raided an apartment in Phoenix, Arizona thought to belong to Elton Simpson, allegedly one of the slain gunmen.

    Court do ents seen by AFP show Simpson was sentenced to three years probation in 2011 for lying to federal agents investigating him on su ion of planning to travel to Somalia to fight with jihadists.

    The White House said President Barack Obama had been briefed on the investigation, which Texas police said was ongoing.

    "There is no form of expression that justifies an act of violence," White House spokesman Josh Earnest said.

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    Commentators were quick to draw parallels to a January shooting at the French satirical weekly Charlie Hebdo in Paris that killed 12 people and wounded 11 more.

    The American Freedom Defense Initiative, a group listed by civil rights watchdog the Southern Poverty Law Center as an anti-Muslim hate group, had organized the event in Garland, a suburb of Dallas.

    - Drawings of the prophet -

    At the event, attended by Dutch far-right politician Geert Wilders and AFDI co-founder Pamela Geller, supporters held an exhibition of entries to a compe ion to draw cartoons caricatures of the Prophet Mohammed.

    Many Muslims find drawings of the prophet to be disrespectful or outright blasphemous, and such cartoons have been cited by Islamists as motivation in several previous attacks.

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    Police said two men, wearing body armor and toting assault rifles, drove up to the conference, jumped out and opened fire on an unarmed security guard.

    Garland police spokesman Joe Harn told reporters the guard was shot in the ankle and that a traffic police officer in the vicinity responded, taking down the two better-armed assailants.

    "With what he was faced with and his reaction and his shooting with a pistol, he did a good job," Harn said. "And under the fire that he was put under, he did a very good job. And probably saved lives."

    A SWAT team on duty to provide back-up security for the controversial event secured the area, and bomb squad officers confirmed that there were no explosives in the car.

    Wilders told AFP in an e-mail that he was concerned he may have been targeted because he, like one of the Charlie Hebdo cartoonists killed in January, figures on a hit list circulated by Al-Qaeda supporters.

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    "I am shocked. I just spoke for half an hour about the cartoons, Islam and freedom of speech and I had just left the premises," he said.

    "This is an attack on the liberties of all of us!"

    The Dutch politician said he would return to the Netherlands on Monday but he still plans to come back to the United States next week for another speaking engagement.

    - 'War on free speech' -

    On Twitter, jihadist Abu Hussain Al-Britani, who the private terror watchdog SITE identified as British IS fighter Junaid Hussain, described the gunmen as "two of our brothers."

    About 200 people were present at the event in Garland.

    US Representative Michael McCaul of Texas, who also is the chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee, deplored the attack by what he called "fanatics."

    "From the capitals of Europe to the streets of Garland, Texas, we have been confronted by attackers who cannot tolerate our open society," he said.

    AFDI had offered a $10,000 prize for the winner of the cartoon contest that had been billed as a "free speech" event.

    Geller called the shooting a "war on free speech."

    "What are we going to do? Are we going to surrender to these monsters?" she wrote on her website. "The war is here."

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    Amazing that some people freak out over cartoons.


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    Garland, Texas—Scene of Last Night's Shootings—Is a Hotbed for Anti-Muslim Bigotry

    Geller is being portrayed as an advocate of free speech, who was holding a Muhammad cartoon contest that was simply about affirming First Amendment principles.

    This simply is not the case.


    Geller is not a “critic of Islam,” as The Los Angeles Times wrote of her last night. Her goal is to cleanse the Western world of Muslims in much the same manner Slobodan Milosevic wanted to cleanse the Balkans of its Muslim population. On her website, she promoted a British activist’s solution to that country's Muslim migration:


    If a government wants to learn how to manage growing Islamic problems, take some advice from Ottoman army officer Mustafa Kemal Atatürk. Atatürk abolished Islam by putting a complete ban on Islamic materials, demolishing mosques, and removing any traces of Islam in his country to get rid of the evil. Those who tried to revolt were put in their place, or basically killed….


    It is time for the UK to stop wasting their military abroad, but bring them to patrol their own streets and begin to remove Muslims. And it is vital time to plan and arrange deportation programs – and even arrange new deportation programs for practicing Muslims born in England to be deported to their parent’s country of origin.

    She has posted bus ads around the country saying that “Islamic jew-hatred: it's in the Quran,” leading to the New York Metro Transit Authority banning all political ads in its system after her provocative material was placed. She hascalled for all Muslim migration to the West to be banned. The last thing Geller is is an advocate for freedom of anything.


    None of this is to justify the attack that occurred last night, whatever its motivation. Violence is an abhorrent thing, whether it be a shooting, or demolishing mosques. Or killing people from the air with explosive weapons (but more on that later).


    But we should understand, going forward, the political climate in Garland – a city with a nearly ten percent Asian population, much of which is Muslim immigrants. Last January, a group of Muslims dedicated to peace and denouncing terrorism held a conference there. The conference was led “Stand With the Prophet Against Violence and Hate,” and was focused around a fundraiser to build a new center to combat extremism and negative perceptions of Islam. In other words, the conference was an organizing point for those “moderate Muslims” we often are told do not exist.


    This is how those Muslims were greeted in Garland, by thousands of protesters:

    Holding signs saying “You are not Americans. Don’t fly our flag,” protesters complained about the Garland Independent School District allowing the group to use the facility.


    “We pay our taxes to that school, and I don’t want them here,” one woman, Lavona Martindale said.


    Another protester, identified as Greg McKinley, said, “We’re here to stand up for the American way of life from a faction of people who are trying to destroy us.”
    McKinley added, “If they want to live their life like the middle east, they can go back to the middle east.”

    Some of the protesters came armed, and many screamed at the attendees as they walked into the conference. Because the facility they used was a public building, protesters also packed the Gardland School Board, asking that they deny them permit to hold the peace conference. Said one man, “I certainly don’t think you need people there who want to destroy this country.”

    In short, it's pretty obvious what Geller and her friends in Garland believe: the United States is at war with Islam, and Muslims are not welcome here.


    Although we do not know the exact ideology or iden y of the attackers, one thing that is immediately clear is their attempt to do violence upon Geller's event will be seen as validation. Immediately after the attack, Geller appeared on Fox News, saying, “There's an enemy among us.” In other words, the attackers, no matter what their motivation is, have only helped Geller spread her hate.


    http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-pol...muslim-bigotry



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    After Texas Shooting, American Muslims Defend Anti-Islam Hate Group’s Right To Speak

    American Muslim leaders are already condemning the shooting and defending Geller’s right to exercise their free speech, hateful or otherwise. Ibrahim Hooper, National Communications Director and spokesperson for the Council on American–Islamic Relations (CAIR), told ThinkProgress his group rebuked the attack “without reservation,” and maintained that while Geller’s statements are unhelpful, her freedom of expression should be protected.

    “She has the right to do it, it’s a free country,” he said. “But one has to wonder why one would dedicate their life to promoting hatred and bigotry.”

    The Qur’an says to respond to speech with speech.
    Harris Zafar, a spokesman for the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community, expressed a similar sentiment on CNN this morning.
    Asked to respond to Geller’s assessment of the attacks as emblematic of a deeper “problem in Islam,” he explained that his faith actually embraces the belief that everyone should be allowed to voice an opinion without fear.


    “We stand with her and with everyone who defends freedom of speech,” he said. “We believe that everyone has a right to speak their words, and our faith actually backs that up — it champions free speech.”


    http://thinkprogress.org/justice/201...s-right-speak/



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    “Even among people here in Washington that promulgate these ridiculous claims about the insidious Muslim menace in America, Spencer and Geller are seen as kind of an embarrassment."

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/muslim-menace-in-america?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_ campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29

    But obviously, their behavior, plenty of Texas in and around Garland aren't embarrassed by Muslim haters and don't respect freedom of speech for Muslims.






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    Girls who dress like s deserve to get raped.

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    Boutons stop posting the edited version of the articles

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    Anti-Islam Activist Pam Geller Compares Herself To Rosa Parks

    Fox host Martha MacCallum noted that Geller has taken criticism from the staff of Charlie Hebdo and American conservatives such as Bill Donahue of the Catholic League.

    Donald Trump also called Geller's actions "DUMB!" and said her cartoon contest was just "taunting" people.


    Geller brushed off Trump's critique, and then rolled out an analogy that left MacCallum reeling.


    "What would he have said about Rosa Parks?" Geller said. "'Rosa Parks should never have gone to the front of the bus. She's taunting people.'"


    "No, no, no, where are you getting the Rosa Parks comparison?" MacCallum interrupted, before moving on.


    "We need to have more of these conferences," Geller eventually said, blaming the Fox News and the rest of media for "empowering" the gunmen.


    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewir...+%28TPMNews%29

    Fox empowers the gunmen?

    Gellar BAITED the gunmen.



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    Not being able to depict Mohammed and if you do you get killed is a dumb view. Describing Garland as baiting them is beside the point, really. The point is freedom of speech is a cons utional protected right.

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    The point is freedom of speech is a cons utional protected right.
    Gellar's point of a Mohammed cartoon contest was not freedom of speech, but insulting, trashing, ridiculing, inflaming, BAITING Muslims.

    She got two killed, and probably gave one guard life-long, chronic ankle pain, and promoted herself as world-champion Muslim hater, which is sure to pay her grifting ass very well.

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    LOL Boutons only likes freedom of HIS incoherent speech.

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    Don't mess with Texas

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    Gellar's point of a Mohammed cartoon contest was not freedom of speech, but insulting, trashing, ridiculing, inflaming, BAITING Muslims.
    So, pretty much what you've done every day for the last 10 years. But we wouldn't want freedom of speech to extend to insulting a non-Christian now would we.

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    So, pretty much what you've done every day for the last 10 years. But we wouldn't want freedom of speech to extend to insulting a non-Christian now would we.
    yep per his own admission he deserves to be shot
    Last edited by m>s; 05-05-2015 at 05:00 PM.

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    Don't mess with Texas
    pew pew pew.

    Tweedle dum and tweedle dumber versus the Sully Sullenberger of pistol combat....


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    “Even among people here in Washington that promulgate these ridiculous claims about the insidious Muslim menace in America, Spencer and Geller are seen as kind of an embarrassment."

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/muslim-menace-in-america?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_ campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29

    But obviously, their behavior, plenty of Texas in and around Garland aren't embarrassed by Muslim haters and don't respect freedom of speech for Muslims.

    "Freedom of speech" doesn't really cover attacks with assault rifles.

    If the jihadists were really smart they would pull off something like this at an NRA convention. Pick two caucasian converts, with some 30 round clips, start blasting away, then let the attendees kill each other in the crossfire. A perfect storm of "freedom to bear arms".

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    "Freedom of speech" doesn't really cover attacks with assault rifles.

    If the jihadists were really smart they would pull off something like this at an NRA convention. Pick two caucasian converts, with some 30 round clips, start blasting away, then let the attendees kill each other in the crossfire. A perfect storm of "freedom to bear arms".
    What the is a 30 round clip?

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    So, pretty much what you've done every day for the last 10 years. But we wouldn't want freedom of speech to extend to insulting a non-Christian now would we.
    boutons get your ass back in here and take your slapping like a man

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    tbh, boutons got excited there for a second.... shooting bubbas, the enemy of my enemy is my friend, etc...

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    Gellar's point of a Mohammed cartoon contest was not freedom of speech, but insulting, trashing, ridiculing, inflaming, BAITING Muslims.

    She got two killed, and probably gave one guard life-long, chronic ankle pain, and promoted herself as world-champion Muslim hater, which is sure to pay her grifting ass very well.
    People insult, trash, ridicule, inflame, and bait Christians all the time. We don't attack them for it.

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    Only Boutons_shill would try to argue that the people holding an art contest are the real bigots, not the people who try to kill others for poking fun at their religion.

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    "Freedom of speech" doesn't really cover attacks with assault rifles.
    When the Muslims tried to have peaceful meeting, the locals screamed at them, and tried to shut them down, wanted the school district to deny Muslims usage of the building.

    The reason Gellar chose this venue to trash Muslims was that the Muslims had a meeting there where the locals harassed them. Goddam, you mofos are so out of it.
    Last edited by boutons_deux; 05-05-2015 at 09:28 PM.

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    buttons would have no problem if they were catholic

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    "Freedom of speech" doesn't really cover attacks with assault rifles.

    If the jihadists were really smart they would pull off something like this at an NRA convention. Pick two caucasian converts, with some 30 round clips, start blasting away, then let the attendees kill each other in the crossfire. A perfect storm of "freedom to bear arms".
    i bet that would make you really happy. sorry for you that it didn't work out in your favor. thankfully for us, no one else was seriously harmed except the perpetrators.

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