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I think we need to ask eva about this, and kobe on top?? did the white girl told u?
Where do Manu and Tony rank on that list? Top 10? Top 5?
On a non-spurs board, I saw non-spurs fans listing either/or/both Manu and Tony as top 5 penetrators in the league!
I would say they are both great, but I do think Tony's a little more one-dimensional still in his offense. First off, he is a driver not a slasher. His lack of a consistent midrange jumpshot makes it harder for him to drive because guys are learning to back off of him and dare him to shoot. Once Tony gets a consistent jumpshot his drives will get even easier. His shooting percentages testify that he gets to the rack pretty easily even considering that defenders can back off of him.
Manu has range, and is an adequate mid-range guy, though he is very capable of going all the way and drawing fouls. I think he is more capable as a slasher/driver because he relies less on quickness and can't be treated as a one-dimensional offensive player.
So in conclusion, I think you could be the best slasher/driver in the world, but if guys back off you 10 feet you are going to have a hard time getting anywhere against a solid defensive team, whereas a player (like Kobe) who will kill you if you back off him, becomes a GREAT driver then because of his offensive arsenal.
my top 5
1. kobe
2. AI (he is a great scorer but shoots a low percentage)
3. Nash
4.Manu
5.Wade
I think we need to ask eva about this, and kobe on top?? did the white girl told u?
Penetration is merely getting into the lane. Tony and Manu are very, very adept at that.
I'd say there both probably top 5 and certainly top 10. TPs lack of a jumpshot doesn't really hurt him because he has exceptional quickness and good handles.
What your talking about is finishing, completely different. You can penetrate with the intent to pass, shoot dribble out. Luckily both Parker and Manu are pretty good at finishing as well.
I agree with spursfaninla's list.
Although if you're talking about just getting into the lane, I've got to go with Iverson. He gets in there almost at will.
Dwayne Wade has to be on the top of the list. He shoots a high percentage also.
Kobe, Manu, Wade, AI, Tony.
Nah, this is for NBA penetrators. I nominate Wilt Chamberlain who claimed over 20,000 in his career.
I'd put AI ahead of Kobe on the list. Honorable mention for Tony Parker.
I would say AI.
But if I look at myself - I'm not bad PENETRATOR also
When I first saw the le to this thread.......I thought it was from The Club.
Adult foru.....oh wait....basketball!
Put It In The Hole!!!!!
You just don't penetrate, there is a whole chess match where you try to where down the other's defense.
Wilt Chamberlain
Shawn Kemp
Magic Johnson
Yes Wilt was mentioning about 20000 something women
Last edited by polandprzem; 09-08-2005 at 11:17 AM.
And the Ron Jeremy Award goes to...
I was thinking the same thing when i saw the le of this thread
I don't know the guy
Just grab the ball and don't let go.
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