The double standard part 2

[Brazil]

ST is obviously putting the blame once again on Parker for Spurs struggles and basically for losing to the Clippers. Once again Kawhi is "protected", some are whispering dude did not have a good serie but overall no big complain there, Tim has been the best of the serie but not much fuss about it.

This picture is again the result of a double standard when reality is Parker did have an horrible serie, no doubt about that. Kawhi had an overall very bad serie and Tim Duncan had an amazing serie despite the "he cannot defend the P&R"

Using the famous +/- Parker haters love to use....

ul +/- for the serie

TD +17
TP -6
KL -35

Net Rating per 100 possessions

TD +7
TP +1
KL -4,8


Before anybody starts with their respective agendas, I'm not saying or arguing about the fact Parker has somehow a better serie than KL his PER, PIE, shooting etc.. have been horrible (no need to post for the 100000th times the screen shots).

Nevertheless fact is KL did not play at expected level especially factoring the fact he was our best mismatch to exploit on both end of the floor. His defense has been subpar with a Defrtg of 108, he allowed opponents to score .54 on him +6,2 pts vs. average opponent shooting %. Fun facts Parker allowed .42, -4,5 pts vs. average and Tim ing Duncan allowed .45, -6,6 pts vs. average


At the end, Duncan at 38 y/o outplayed badly our 23 y/o best player future of the franchise

[jdelar03]

Duncan is 39

[Mugen]

I'm with OP on this one. It's stupid to think that one of the fattest players in the league could have played better.

Kawhi should have done more tbh.

[dabom]

If you look closely I'm pretty sure matt bonner has a plus 20 you got. Look at this whole year you stupid . Now look at this years playoffs and last years playoffs. We lost cause parker was a got.
Player fans. And no, Kawhi did not have a bad series, he had a good series. Tony has one of the worst playoff series ever my any starter ever. If Tony ever played the injury excuse we would be in the playoffs right now. I bet you think benching Kawhi would be the reasonable thing to do then right? Wow you are a stupid . You don't know about basketball.

[Brazil]

Duncan is 39

yup u right... it's even worst

[spurraider21]

there is an "s" at the end of the word "series" tbh. and not just for the plural form

[Mugen]

^ what a loser tbh.

[RD2191]

If you look closely I'm pretty sure matt bonner has a plus 20 you got. Look at this whole year you stupid . Now look at this years playoffs and last years playoffs. We lost cause parker was a got.
Player fans. And no, Kawhi did not have a bad series, he had a good series. Tony has one of the worst playoff series ever my any starter ever. If Tony ever played the injury excuse we would be in the playoffs right now. I bet you think benching Kawhi would be the reasonable thing to do then right? Wow you are a stupid . You don't know about basketball.

[Agloco]

there is an "s" at the end of the word "series" tbh. and not just for the plural form

English as a second language tbh

[Brazil]

If you look closely I'm pretty sure matt bonner has a plus 20 you got. Look at this whole year you stupid . Now look at this years playoffs and last years playoffs. We lost cause parker was a got.
Player fans. And no, Kawhi did not have a bad series, he had a good series. Tony has one of the worst playoff series ever my any starter ever. If Tony ever played the injury excuse we would be in the playoffs right now. I bet you think benching Kawhi would be the reasonable thing to do then right? Wow you are a stupid . You don't know about basketball.

so many fails in dat post I don't even know where to start

Matt Bonner +/- during his 5 mpg is irrelevant to this topic
Your crew is the one who started dat +/- so that's yours not mine
create a thread for the whole year, I'm talking about 7 games against the Clips
yes KL had a bad serie, Net rating of -4,8, outplayed by Matt Barnes
read OP I said Parker had an horrible serie, still deflecting I see

you have still no clue about advanced stats, you use them when it fits and says it is when it does not fit

[Brazil]

there is an "s" at the end of the word "series" tbh. and not just for the plural form

thanks brah

[Brazil]

KL -35

[loveforthegame]

Seriously? Leonard's getting plenty of blame. There's probably more threads about him than Parker. I'm sure no one is more disappointed in his performance than the man himself. He's young, will get back in the gym, and come back better next year. It's what he does.

Maybe Parker will come back stronger too. Or just bigger. Who knows. Maybe people are leaning on him more because the money he makes and for posting some of the worst numbers in the league all season long.

[RD2191]

Your defensive and offensive numbers take a huge hit when this guy is your starting PG.






Originally Posted by robdiaz2191
ON/OFF COURT IMPACT
Virtually everyone is aware of the on/off impact that Kawhi Leonard has had this year with the Spurs. When Kawhi's on the court, they've played excellent ball. When he's not, they've been... shaky, to say the least. Fewer are aware of the fact that Tony Parker's on-court presence has been essentially the opposite. With Parker on the court, San Antonio has been outscored by one point. Their defense has been atrocious and their offense has been below par. With Parker off, they've been absolutely excellent, outscoring opponents by 7.6 points. Here are some simple numbers on San Antonio's team performance with Tony Parker on and off the court from the current season:





Originally Posted by robdiaz2191
Parker's erratic play has been a big reason for San Antonio's regression on offense this season. The Spurs' offensive rating sits at just 103.6 this season, which is a pedestrian 12th in the league, per NBA.com.

The picture gets even uglier for Parker when you look at how San Antonio has performed with him on the floor. The Spurs have an offensive rating of just 101.6 in Parker's 1,213 minutes this season, the lowest of any regular rotation player, per NBA.com. San Antonio's net rating is a poor negative-2.5 with Parker on the floor, compared to 8.2 with him on the bench, a stunning difference.

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/2/24/8101513/tony-parker-struggling-stats-synergy-sports-spurs




Originally Posted by robdiaz2191
Not all measures agree with this assessment of the Spurs’ point guards (if you’re a diehard PER partisan, you’re not going to find this persuasive), but Parker and Joseph’s on/off court numbers this season support the case: ESPN’s on-court impact metric has Cory Joseph ranked a respectable 21stamong all NBA point guards, with Tony Parker coming in at 75. The Spurs just aren’t playing as well when Parker is on the floor.


http://hardwoodparoxysm.com/2014/12/31/need-talk-tony-parker/

[dabom]

Enrique
6.3 PER
-.067WS/48

Kawhi
19.7 PER
.142WS/48

As you can clearly see got. Tony was the one bringing us down you stupid .

Looked like D-League material.

We'd be in the playoffs if it wasn't for that got.

[RD2191]

let's just shut this thread down

[dabom]

Those are playoff numbers.

[dabom]

Was Tony betting on the Clippers?

[Brazil]

Seriously? Leonard's getting plenty of blame.

true and I said it in OP but what he is getting is more a whisper than anything else

There's probably more threads about him than Parker.

no... not even close

I'm sure no one is more disappointed in his performance than the man himself. He's young, will get back in the gym, and come back better next year. It's what he does.

Maybe Parker will come back stronger too. Or just bigger. Who knows. Maybe people are leaning on him more because the money he makes and for posting some of the worst numbers in the league all season long.

I agree totally, I don't question the player I question his performance during 7 games against clippers and the ST double standard

[spurraider21]

why is it impossible to separate kawhi discussions from tony discussions?

[Bartleby]

If you look closely I'm pretty sure matt bonner has a plus 20 you got. Look at this whole year you stupid . Now look at this years playoffs and last years playoffs. We lost cause parker was a got.
Player fans. And no, Kawhi did not have a bad series, he had a good series. Tony has one of the worst playoff series ever my any starter ever. If Tony ever played the injury excuse we would be in the playoffs right now. I bet you think benching Kawhi would be the reasonable thing to do then right? Wow you are a stupid . You don't know about basketball.

pretending Kawhi didn't the bed the last three games.
"I'm going into hibernation"
"I'm not a player fan"

[RD2191]

There is no double standard. Did Kawhi suck games 5-7? tes, he did. Did Parker have anything to do with that? Yes, he did. Did Parker take 21 shots while being the worst shooter on the team? Yes, he did.

[dabom]

ARPM had tony as the worst player in the PLAYOFFS by game 4.

[baseline bum]

Srs? Parker was probably the worst rotation player in the playoffs, counting Rondo and Austin Rivers.

[Brazil]

Enrique
6.3 PER
-.067WS/48

Kawhi
19.7 PER
.142WS/48

As you can clearly see got. Tony was the one bringing us down you stupid .

Looked like D-League material.

We'd be in the playoffs if it wasn't for that got.

reality is Parker did have an horrible serie, no doubt about that.

Before anybody starts with their respective agendas, I'm not saying or arguing about the fact Parker has somehow a better serie than KL his PER, PIE, shooting etc.. have been horrible (no need to post for the 100000th times the screen shots).

what else got ?