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I don't think any Lebron fan denies this..what's your point?
In Lebron's ten playoff years, the East has had 30 teams win 50 games. By contrast, the West has had 59 teams.
In Jordan's 13 seasons with the Bulls, the East had 49 teams win 50.
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I don't think any Lebron fan denies this..what's your point?
So...you're saying the Eastern Conference is awful?
Thanks for the breaking news OP.
you suckers are ready to crown him the GOAT when he has never had a tough run to the finals. Except when Boston butt ed him over and over.
That's false, actually(as usual), not to mention that looking at RS win totals is mostly irrelevant, but anyways, tough/easy runs to the Finals doesn't affect the Finals result, at all, as we have seen throughout NBA history..
Heat = easier run than the Spurs, destroyed in the Finals
Heat in 2013- tougher run than the Spurs, won the Finals
Mavs in 2011- tougher run than the Heat, won the Finals
Celtics in 2008- 2 games 7s and a game 6, yet destroyed the Lakers in the Finals(Lakers hadn't been challenged prior to the Finals)
You can go on forever, it has minimal effect on the Finals result..
I'll help advance the argument.....eastern conference sucks. LeBron sucks. His finals appearance rate is an asterix. LeBron can't make top 5 all time after kawhi Leonard abused him and he cramped out. Drug abuser. Too beta to have woman problems. Cuckold (delonte).
might not have an effect on the finals results in a vacuum... but you have to get to the finals in the first place. lebron is about to have his 6th go. had he been in the west, he likely wouldn't have had as many finals trips, and thus possibly less rings
Lebron's Heat had a great record vs teams in the West during the regular season, actually(which is the logic being used here)
There are only 3-4 legit contenders every year, regardless of record, unless you are a vanilla fan that considers teams like Memphis and Portland to be contenders..
1. Celtics Trio
2. MVPau Lakers
3. Duncan's Spurs/Dirk's Mavs
5. James' Heat
man its amazing how many times he crushed us.. that Kobe
memphis nearly knocked OKC out last year in the first round... and had a strong chance is zbo wasn't suspended. the spurs were pushed to 7 by dallas. even though memphis and dallas weren't contenders... they very nearly knocked out the 2 strongest contenders in the conference.
the spurs were rolling in the 2nd half of the season but lost because they got the clippers in the first round. switch the spurs and the cavs, and the spurs are in the finals right now tbh
I'm sure the lists wouldn't change if Kobe played alongside Mo Williams/Iglauskas and LeBron played alongside Shaq/MVPau+Bynum+Odom+Artest. Nope not at all.
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1.) It isn't LeBron's fault the East has been dog virtually his entire career. Why penalize him for something that's out of his control?
2.) The Showtime Lakers made a living beating up on a terrible Western Conference in the '80s but nobody holds that against them.
3.) LeBron deserves credit, imo, for taking the Cleveland Cavaliers- arguably the worst non-relocated franchise in NBA history (only the Timberwolves challenge them for that dishonor)- to two NBA Finals.
Didn't say anything bad. Just shows how easy LeBron has it in the East. That's why he will never sign with a Western Conference team.
Lebron loses in the finals, he ties Magic
Blazers were not good throughout Drexler's career? Kevin Johnson's Suns were scrubs too? The WC was not chocked with scrub teams. And the EC was LOADED. So loaded that MJ didn't win during Bird's or Magic's primes.
The Lakers beat the Pistons, Celtics (twice), and Philly (twice) in the Finals. From 1980-1989, either the Lakers or Boston (or BOTH) were in the Finals every year. We were STACKED.
-10 points for using my Lakers to prop up LeHype.
Doesn't matter if your conference is weak when your Finals opponent is strong. In 2012, I called the Thunder "a perfect team." Spoelstra looked in' clueless going into that match-up, and most posters here and the media thought the Heat were going to get trounced. Lebron outplayed Durant and the Heat emerged with the le. The 2013 Spurs were one of the best non-champions of recent history, certainly better than garbage like the '07 Cavs, '09 Magic and '10 Celtics (such an overrated team), and Lebron, with help from a Spurs meltdown, emerged with the le.
Like Tait said, we don't penalize Magic for feasting on a weak Western Conference his entire career, because beating the Sixers, Celtics, and Pistons (all great teams) validates the weak lead up to the Finals.
Robert Horry eliminated 28 50-win teams.
Just look at some of the murderers' rows that the Showtime Lakers had to go through:
1983-84: Kings (38-44), Mavs (43-39), Suns (41-41)
1984-85: Suns (36-46), Blazers (42-40), Nuggets (52-30, but played absolutely no defense even by '80s standards)
1985-86: Spurs (35-47), Mavs (44-38), Rockets (51-31; first time they played anything close to a legit team in years and they lost in 5)
1986-87: Nuggets (37-45), Warriors (42-40), Sonics (39-43) - easily the most pathetic road to a le in the history of the NBA, probably even in the history of sports
1987-88: Got to play a Spurs team that was 20 games under .500 in the first round
"But, but, LeBron deserves an asterisk because the East is so weak!"
Yep. The Suns didn't become a threat until they paired Barkley with KJ. And Drexler's Blazers were a one hit wonder Finals appearance. They only great team in the West was the Dream/Sampson Rockets, a team quickly derailed by injuries as they look poised to dominate the conference for years to come.Blazers were not good throughout Drexler's career? Kevin Johnson's Suns were scrubs too? The WC was not chocked with scrub teams. And the EC was LOADED. So loaded that MJ didn't win during Bird's or Magic's primes.
The Lakers beat the Pistons, Celtics (twice), and Philly (twice) in the Finals. From 1980-1989, either the Lakers or Boston (or BOTH) were in the Finals every year. We were STACKED.
-10 points for using my Lakers to prop up LeHype.
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