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  1. 06-19-2015 #1
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    http://w2.vatican.va/content/frances...audato-si.html
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    Since everything is interrelated, concern for the protection of nature is also incompatible with the justification of abortion. How can we genuinely teach the importance of concern for other vulnerable beings, however troublesome or inconvenient they may be, if we fail to protect a human embryo, even when its presence is uncomfortable and creates difficulties? “If personal and social sensitivity towards the acceptance of the new life is lost, then other forms of acceptance that are valuable for society also wither away”.
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    "incompatible with the justification of abortion."

    RCC's anti-abortion ideology would be reasonable if it would quit condemning Catholics to for eternity for contraception.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boutons_deux
    "incompatible with the justification of abortion."

    RCC's anti-abortion ideology would be reasonable if it would quit condemning Catholics to for eternity for contraception.


    It's not codemning them any more than any other sin. All to be saved through Jesus. But I also disagree with the Catholics on the issue of birth control. They take a passage from Genesis out of context to try to ban it but it wasn't the spilling of his seed that was wicked, but his selfish motivations and refusal to perform his legal duties based on their culture.
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  5. 06-21-2015 #5
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    abortion is a sidebar in all this, y'all
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    It's a moral do ent from an en y that deals in morals, so in that sense, it's not unexpected.

    Since some people have a hard time untangling moral guidance from politics, especially those that view politics as an intrinsic instrument to impart moral guidance, it's also unsurprising this was heavily politicized.

    Now, I really don't give two damns about religion, so YMMV...
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    unexpected? no. the pope is Catholic, after all. so he emphasizes custodial responsibility over doctrinal dominion...
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    Generally, as humans, we can certainly do better than this:

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