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    There's a link to a good article in the comments

    http://www.rationaloptimist.com/blog...o-science.aspx

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    rightwingnuts, Fox, Repugs, BigCarbon love it, and keep on ing up the planet for profit, do everything to re , block clean energy.

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    I guess the "global warming" scam stopped working, so they have to go back to the "global cooling" scam now?

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    I guess the "global warming" scam stopped working, so they have to go back to the "global cooling" scam now?
    The two things are unrelated. You obviously didn't read the article, but don't bother because it has some big words and it'll probably just make you angry go smash.

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    Bring it on. How much will a ticket be for the Snowpiercer?

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    U.K. tabloids, conservative media, and others are (mis)reporting that the Earth will enter a “mini ice age” in the 2030s. In fact, not only is the story wrong, the reverse is actually true.

    The Earth is headed toward an imminent speed-up in global warming, as many recent studies have made clear, like this June study by NOAA. Indeed, a March study, en led “Near-term acceleration in the rate of temperature change,” makes clear that a stunning acceleration in the rate of global warming is around the corner — with Arctic warming rising 1°F per decade by the 2020s!

    Also, right now, we appear to be in the midst of a long-awaited jump in global temperatures. Not only was 2014 the hottest year on record, but 2015 is in the process of blowing that record away. On top of that, models say a massive El Niño is growing, as USA Today reported last week. Since El Niños tend to set the record for the hottest years (since the regional warming adds to the underlying global warming trend), if 2015/2016 does see a super El Niño then next year may well crush the record this year sets.


    Whatever near-term jump we see in the global temperatures is thus likely to be followed by
    an accelerating global warming trend — one that would utterly overwhelm any natural variations such as a temporary reduction in solar intensity. A recent study concluded that “any reduction in global mean near-surface temperature due to a future decline in solar activity is likely to be a small fraction of projected anthropogenic warming.”

    That’s true even for one as big as the Maunder Minimum, which was linked to the so-called Little Ice Age.


    The “Little Ice Age” is a term used to cover what appears to have been two or three periods of modest cooling in the northern hemisphere between 1550 and 1850.


    I know you are shocked, shocked to learn that unreliable climate stories appear in U.K. tabloids, the conservative media, and those who cite them without actually talking to leading climate scientists. Often there is a half truth underlying such stories, but in this case it is more like a nano-truth.

    This won’t cause the world to enter a mini ice age — for three reasons:


    • The Little Ice Age turns out to have been quite little.
    • What cooling there was probably was driven more by volcanoes than the Maunder Minimum.
    • The warming effect from global greenhouse gases will overwhelm any reduction in solar forcing, even more so by the 2030s.


    http://thinkprogress.org/climate/201...p-not-ice-age/

    and for you puck-for-brains, a hocky stick!


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    Well whatever happens in 2030, it's not going to be good "hot or cold"

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    U.K. tabloids, conservative media, and others are (mis)reporting that the Earth will enter a “mini ice age” in the 2030s. In fact, not only is the story wrong, the reverse is actually true.

    The Earth is headed toward an imminent speed-up in global warming, as many recent studies have made clear, like this June study by NOAA. Indeed, a March study, en led “Near-term acceleration in the rate of temperature change,” makes clear that a stunning acceleration in the rate of global warming is around the corner — with Arctic warming rising 1°F per decade by the 2020s!

    Also, right now, we appear to be in the midst of a long-awaited jump in global temperatures. Not only was 2014 the hottest year on record, but 2015 is in the process of blowing that record away. On top of that, models say a massive El Niño is growing, as USA Today reported last week. Since El Niños tend to set the record for the hottest years (since the regional warming adds to the underlying global warming trend), if 2015/2016 does see a super El Niño then next year may well crush the record this year sets.


    Whatever near-term jump we see in the global temperatures is thus likely to be followed by
    an accelerating global warming trend — one that would utterly overwhelm any natural variations such as a temporary reduction in solar intensity. A recent study concluded that “any reduction in global mean near-surface temperature due to a future decline in solar activity is likely to be a small fraction of projected anthropogenic warming.”

    That’s true even for one as big as the Maunder Minimum, which was linked to the so-called Little Ice Age.


    The “Little Ice Age” is a term used to cover what appears to have been two or three periods of modest cooling in the northern hemisphere between 1550 and 1850.


    I know you are shocked, shocked to learn that unreliable climate stories appear in U.K. tabloids, the conservative media, and those who cite them without actually talking to leading climate scientists. Often there is a half truth underlying such stories, but in this case it is more like a nano-truth.

    This won’t cause the world to enter a mini ice age — for three reasons:


    • The Little Ice Age turns out to have been quite little.
    • What cooling there was probably was driven more by volcanoes than the Maunder Minimum.
    • The warming effect from global greenhouse gases will overwhelm any reduction in solar forcing, even more so by the 2030s.


    http://thinkprogress.org/climate/201...p-not-ice-age/

    and for you puck-for-brains, a hocky stick!

    I doubt you even read the ing links you post you socially deranged lib .

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    I doubt you even read the ing links you post you socially deranged lib .
    give your brilliant summary, or eat , asshole

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    give your brilliant summary, or eat , asshole
    I'm willing to stand for the opposite of whatever you stand for. And that's in every issue imaginable in the political arena. Your views and ful pussy ass SJW takes are a microcosm of how the liberal agenda has ed up the fabric of American society.

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    Haha boutons. Eat .

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    I'm willing to stand for the opposite of whatever you stand for. And that's in every issue imaginable in the political arena. Your views and ful pussy ass SJW takes are a microcosm of how the liberal agenda has ed up the fabric of American society.
    Big Dog is an ideological and therefore WRONG, fact free, but full of lies, as rightwingnuts always are.

    You People drag science, climate int the political arena.

    You People suck down the Exxon/BigCarbon self-serving, profit-protecting LIES about AGW.

    Your ideology of opposing whatever views I have is of course more proof that you're ALWAYS wrong.

    "fabric of society" You People have been dividing America into polarized extreme right / everybody else for 40 years, not the left.

    Even your own Repug assholes, extremists vs Repug establishment, can't quit screwing each other.

    " ed up the fabric of society: typical rightwingnut fantasy

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    I guess the "global warming" scam stopped working, so they have to go back to the "global cooling" scam now?
    No, I doubt it. I'll bet the alarmists will fight this tooth and nail, to their graves.

    2030 is a bit soon for the ice age I think. I believe that's when we should notice the hiatus has ended, and when we start to cool. It will still take decades to get as cold as before.

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    Ahh the Daily Torygraph

    Not a source I would personally trust. Just like the Guardian on climate change, they take money to print certain stories, especially when it comes to this particular issue. If this site was up for another 15 years I would make a big bet on this story and work being a fail.

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    Ahh the Daily Torygraph

    Not a source I would personally trust. Just like the Guardian on climate change, they take money to print certain stories, especially when it comes to this particular issue. If this site was up for another 15 years I would make a big bet on this story and work being a fail.
    Another Murdoch toilet paper.

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    Ahh the Daily Torygraph

    Not a source I would personally trust. Just like the Guardian on climate change, they take money to print certain stories, especially when it comes to this particular issue. If this site was up for another 15 years I would make a big bet on this story and work being a fail.

    http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/...earth-sunspots

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    Northumbria University

    haha...is that where Bilbo Baggins will attend college?

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    I'm willing to stand for the opposite of whatever you stand for. And that's in every issue imaginable in the political arena. Your views and ful pussy ass SJW takes are a microcosm of how the liberal agenda has ed up the fabric of American society.
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    hahaa. yeah. good call.


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    conservative LIE of mini ice age totally debunked.

    In a July 9 press release, the British Royal Astronomical Society stated that professor Valentina Zharkova and her colleagues had created a model that suggests "solar activity will fall by 60 per cent during the 2030s to conditions last seen during the 'mini ice age' that began in 1645." That line was quickly distorted by conservative media outlets on both sides of the Atlantic, such as the UK's Telegraph and The Washington Times,which claimed the scientists had found that the earth is likely heading for a "mini ice age."

    Zharkova herself did not help matters when she hesitantly answered, "Yes, indeed" when asked during a July 13 interview with Radio New Zealand whether she was "saying we've got 15 years before there's an ice age?" Zharkova, who is a professor of mathematics at Northumbria University in England, clarified later in the interview that she doesn't "do atmospheric research" and "can't say for sure" what impact the phenomenon she has predicted, known as a grand solar minimum, will have on the earth's climate relative to global warming.

    However, studies that specifically researched the potential climate impact of a grand solar minimum have found that it would be very small compared to the continued warming that will occur as a result of man-made climate change, a fact that appeared in several publications before CNN.com posted its article.

    In 2013, The Guardian's Dana Nuccitelli cited several studies on the impact a grand solar minimum would have on global temperatures, concluding, "A new grand solar minimum would not trigger another [Little Ice Age]; in fact, the maximum 0.3°C cooling would barely make a dent in the human-caused global warming over the next century." More recently, The Washington Post reported on July 14 that "several other recent studies of a possible solar minimum have concluded that whatever climate effects the phenomenon may have will be dwarfed by the warming caused by greenhouse gas emissions."

    Similarly, blog posts by Slate's Phil Plait and the website ...and Then There's Physics each cited one of those studies, which was published in Nature Communications and found that
    "[a]ny reduction in global mean near-surface temperature due to a future decline in solar activity is likely to be a small fraction of projected anthropogenic warming."

    http://mediamatters.org/blog/2015/07...-in-sun/204412

    LIES! you hear them FIRST from right-wing hate media!



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    thinkprogress and mediamatters really upset. I better visit dailykos and vox

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    thinkprogress and mediamatters really upset. I better visit dailykos and vox
    nobody's upset. All are habituated to right-wing lies. This is just another distracting LIE totally debunked.

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    nobody's upset. All are habituated to right-wing lies. This is just another distracting LIE totally debunked.

    I'm not saying it's the troof, but I'm also not posting big, bold red-fonted from tp and mm

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