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    Not worried, tbh..That's good sample size..It was aided by the fact Belinelli also missed a good chunk of those games (groin), which willl be the case this whole season We leaned heavily on Kawhi/Green and TD in that period, but that's not like we are replacing Tiago with Kevin love/D Lee..Spurs's offense was the constant problem last year all along, and not our D except when Kawhi sat out 17 games..


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    Spurs's offense was the constant problem last year all along[/IMG]
    Spurs had the 7th best offense in the league. Not much of a "problem," tbh.

    But, yeah, barring chemistry issues, the Spurs offense should be even better this coming season.

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    Spurs had the 7th best offense in the league. Not much of a "problem," tbh.

    But, yeah, barring chemistry issues, the Spurs offense should be even better this coming season.
    Obviously it's relative to the previous year; it seemed like we generated mostly the same look but we couldn't knock them at the same clip..Diaw/Mills/Manu/Kawi struggled from deep all year long and that's been the theme of Clippers series with Green supplanting Mills....

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    Obviously it's relative to the previous year
    The Spurs have had the 7th rated offense three years in a row...

    it seemed like we generated mostly the same look but we couldn't knock them at the same clip
    Fair enough. Yeah, the dip in three-point shooting is a notable difference between the two seasons.

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    Spurs definitely struggled on offense at times last year. Just because their system makes lower key teams look like they belong in d-league and we run the score up, doesn't mean we didn't struggle on offense. Out of the two , offense was the worse. The horrible shooting percentage makes that obvious in the clips series. Our defense was good enough to get plenty of looks. Our conversion rate will definitely take a bump with LMA and west spreading the floor.
    Tony was one step away from converting a lot of layups. That extra spacing plus health will definitely benefit the offense.

    OP dropping truth bombs on the splitter crew.

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    Spurs definitely struggled on offense at times last year. Just because their system makes lower key teams look like they belong in d-league and we run the score up, doesn't mean we didn't struggle on offense. Out of the two , offense was the worse. The horrible shooting percentage makes that obvious in the clips series. Our defense was good enough to get plenty of looks. Our conversion rate will definitely take a bump with LMA and west spreading the floor.
    Tony was one step away from converting a lot of layups. That extra spacing plus health will definitely benefit the offense.

    OP dropping truth bombs on the splitter crew.
    Whoa! Stats don't tell the whole story. Splitter played a lot of injured minutes last year. A healthy Splitter has helped the Spurs have a top notch defense. My guess is the Spurs liked what he did on the court when healthy, but were tired of him being habitually injured. Probably why they couldn't gin up more value in a trade...teams know he's good but injury prone. That said, isn't he in a contract year? If so, expect a nice season from him.

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    Whoa! Stats don't tell the whole story. Splitter played a lot of injured minutes last year. A healthy Splitter has helped the Spurs have a top notch defense. My guess is the Spurs liked what he did on the court when healthy, but were tired of him being habitually injured. Probably why they couldn't gin up more value in a trade...teams know he's good but injury prone. That said, isn't he in a contract year? If so, expect a nice season from him.
    I liked splitter. I'm sure the spurs did too. He fit the niche well. He just wasn't as an amazing loss as some make him out to be. The added offense from LMA more than makes up for the gap in defense loss.

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    Tiago was the griffin/Zbo stopper

    spursfan won't admit this


    Tiago stopped LMA


    Tiago was the straw that stirred the drink on defense.


    http://www.poundingtherock.com/2013/...-consideration


    Spursfan cannot their way out of this

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    It was primarily about creating cap space, but I think Pop soured a bit on Splitter and his constant inability to stay healthy..I don't think they ever considered trading Diaw and were probably ready to look elsewhere even if Aldridge didn't pan out....

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    Spurs definitely struggled on offense at times last year. Just because their system makes lower key teams look like they belong in d-league and we run the score up, doesn't mean we didn't struggle on offense. Out of the two , offense was the worse. The horrible shooting percentage makes that obvious in the clips series. Our defense was good enough to get plenty of looks. Our conversion rate will definitely take a bump with LMA and west spreading the floor.
    Tony was one step away from converting a lot of layups. That extra spacing plus health will definitely benefit the offense.

    OP dropping truth bombs on the splitter crew.
    Defense was atrocious against the Clippers. They pretty much got what they wanted whenever their starters were in the game and we weren't hacking.

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    Splitters D was good, but he was so bad on O, that it didn't even out imo...I mean when your 7' tall, you shouldn't be looking to pass, out of the paint...cmon. Cant wait to see LMA get the looks on O, that Tiago couldn't take advantage of.

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    No other team in the league would have won 50 last year with as many injuries as the Spurs had. But playing Timmy and Manu those heavy minutes came at a huge price; probably the price of a championship.

    Also, the Spurs were looking unbeatable last year before the latest Tiago injury; so, let's not kid ourselves about how great he was for this team.

    And I don't know how to show tweets; but this page shows a little something-something from the championship year if anyone knows how to post it:

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    Tiago was the griffin/Zbo stopper

    spursfan won't admit this


    Tiago stopped LMA


    Tiago was the straw that stirred the drink on defense.


    http://www.poundingtherock.com/2013/...-consideration


    Spursfan cannot their way out of this
    You mean Kawhi you stupid . Kawhi ing mentally and physically s their SF and the bigs on the boards. We are a rebounding team without Kawhi. Fact.

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    Tiago was the griffin/Zbo stopper

    spursfan won't admit this


    Tiago stopped LMA


    Tiago was the straw that stirred the drink on defense.


    http://www.poundingtherock.com/2013/...-consideration


    Spursfan cannot their way out of this
    You obviously didn't watch how bad he was vs the clippers this past April defensively.

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    As Lowe has astutely pointed out multiple times, Aldridge isn't nearly as big of a defensive downgrade from Splitter as many seem to think and they're actually similar, as far as their defensive range. Overall, the defense should be roughly the same, with the startling lineup being elite and the bench being sub par.

    Splitter's defensive impact was/is overstate by some. The rare times he's both physically right and fully engaged, he's an excellent all around defender, but part of the reason he was so important was the drop off from him to all the bench bigs. The fact that they were/are sub par doesn't mean he's a combination of prime Robinson/Duncan though.

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    Tiago was the griffin/Zbo stopper

    spursfan won't admit this


    Tiago stopped LMA


    Tiago was the straw that stirred the drink on defense.


    http://www.poundingtherock.com/2013/...-consideration


    Spursfan cannot their way out of this
    1.) Blake Griffin averaged a triple double against our "stopper"
    2.) ZBo isn't the threat he used to be, and Aldridge is no David Lee.
    3.) We don't need an Aldridge stopper anymore
    4.) Are you betting on a healthy Splitter, in June, at age 31?

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    Losing Beli significantly increases the overall quality of our defense, he was ing horrendous last year, I think he was out around the same time Splitter was and saw limited minutes when he came back.

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    Splitter wasn't a black hole on O like some are suggesting. He was excellent with Manu especially on the pick n' roll, set elite screens, and was able to catch tough passes or even make a slick pass to the open guy. His ability to pass was a big part of The Beautiful Game.

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    Tiago missed 30 games and only played 20mpg when healthy and we were a top 5 defensive team all year. Losing tiago doesn't hurt us at all.

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    As Lowe has astutely pointed out multiple times, Aldridge isn't nearly as big of a defensive downgrade from Splitter as many seem to think and they're actually similar, as far as their defensive range. Overall, the defense should be roughly the same, with the startling lineup being elite and the bench being sub par.

    Splitter's defensive impact was/is overstate by some. The rare times he's both physically right and fully engaged, he's an excellent all around defender, but part of the reason he was so important was the drop off from him to all the bench bigs. The fact that they were/are sub par doesn't mean he's a combination of prime Robinson/Duncan though.
    lol regular season

    lets remember zbo ting on us in 2011 and how he was nullified by splitts?

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    The grizz were nullified by Kawhi getting all those boards and perimeter defending.

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    the new bigs will need to set splitter type picks

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    5 years later and people are still worried about zbo

    The only concern is Blake Griffin and any drop in defense will be more than made up with better offense. Unless you want to see Tony Parker do what he did this year.

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    There is nothing to worry about with Zbo now, tbh. Tiago completely frustrated him and shut him down, very very true, but a large part of that was the Spurs ability to rebound after Splitter caused missed shots. Zbo does some of his best work off of his own and teammates misses. He can't bully Aldridge like he did McDyess/Bonner all those years ago...

    With Duncan, Aldridge, Leonard and Green on the floor, opposing teams are going to struggle to make any impact on the boards offensively. Memphis should be the last of the Spurs worries.

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