Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 43
  1. #1
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Post Count
    97,536
    Court Declares Air Fresheners, Pro-Police Stickers as Reasonable Su ion For Cops to Pull You Over

    Nohemi Pena-Gonzalez was pulled over by Police Officer Mike Tamez when she was driving just 2 MPH over the speed limit. The officer did not pull her over because she was speeding, but because he suspected that she was trafficking drugs, and found the contents of her vehicle and the sticker to be su ious.

    Eventually, the officer questioned her husband, Ruben Pena-Gonzalez, who agreed to allow the officer search to their vehicle. The officer did not find any drugs, but did find a large sum of cash that he confiscated, and then sent Ruben Pena-Gonzalez to jail.

    “We do have concerns that classifying pro-law enforcement and anti-drug stickers or certain religious imagery as indicators of criminal activity risks putting drivers in a classic ‘heads I win, tails you lose’ position.

    But we need not decide whether these items alone, or in combination with one another, amount to reasonable su ion because we find the more su ious evidence to be the array of air fresheners and inconsistencies in the driver’s responses to the officer’s basic questions.

    We have long recognized that the presence of air fresheners, let alone four of them placed throughout an SUV, suggests a desire to mask the odor of contraband.

    This ruling upholds the idea that police officers can profile and detain people who aren’t actually committing any crimes.

    http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-pol...cion-cops-pull

    ... especially if the We The People are black or brown.



  2. #2
    Grab 'em by the pussy Splits's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Post Count
    26,183
    Do you smell that? That's the smell of freedom

  3. #3
    Mr. John Wayne CosmicCowboy's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Post Count
    44,136
    uhhh...I would call $670,000 in cash in garbage sacks hidden in a false panel of the Tahoe probable cause for arrest.

    Typical alternet bull .

  4. #4
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Post Count
    97,536
    uhhh...I would call $670,000 in cash in garbage sacks hidden in a false panel of the Tahoe probable cause for arrest.

    Typical alternet bull .
    the cash wasn't the point. The air fresheners, pro-cop sticker makes ANYONE of legitimate suspect.

  5. #5
    Banned
    My Team
    Boston Celtics
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Post Count
    323
    the cash wasn't the point. The air fresheners, pro-cop sticker makes ANYONE of legitimate suspect.

    But I thought you are okay with this because you hate Christianity. Maybe you hate this because there are more Mexicans with rosaries in their cars than evil white men.

  6. #6
    Mr. John Wayne CosmicCowboy's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Post Count
    44,136
    the cash wasn't the point. The air fresheners, pro-cop sticker makes ANYONE of legitimate suspect.
    speeding was point #1. Evasive and inconsistent answers #2. 4 freaking brand new stinky air fresheners strike #3. Cash probably smelled like dope.

    Might not just assume alternet is giving you an unbiased reporting of facts.

  7. #7
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Post Count
    97,536
    2 MPH!

    lane change w/o signalling!

    both are done 10Ms times per day, but watch out if you're black or brown

  8. #8
    Mr. John Wayne CosmicCowboy's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Post Count
    44,136
    2 MPH!

    lane change w/o signalling!

    both are done 10Ms times per day, but watch out if you're black or brown
    I am white and got pulled over and ticketed last year for no blinker on a lane change on the freeway. happens all the time. I said yes sir and no sir and signed my agreement to appear and didn't go to jail.

  9. #9
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Post Count
    97,536
    I am white and got pulled over and ticketed last year for no blinker on a lane change on the freeway. happens all the time. I said yes sir and no sir and signed my agreement to appear and didn't go to jail.
    #WhiteLivesMatter

  10. #10
    Cinnamon Girl mrsmaalox's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Post Count
    17,464
    Try driving an SUV for 5 years hauling 3 kids and 3 dogs--the 4 air fresheners won't be su ious at all!

  11. #11
    Mr. John Wayne CosmicCowboy's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Post Count
    44,136
    Try driving an SUV for 5 years hauling 3 kids and 3 dogs--the 4 air fresheners won't be su ious at all!


    whassup darlin? What are you doing slumming over here?

  12. #12
    Rum and Coke SupremeGuy's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Post Count
    10,795
    uhhh...I would call $670,000 in cash in garbage sacks hidden in a false panel of the Tahoe probable cause for arrest.

    Typical alternet bull .
    But but but air fresheners and bumper stickers

  13. #13
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Post Count
    97,536
    But but but air fresheners and bumper stickers
    you rightwingnuts are ing stupid. the issue is racial/air-freshener/car-sticker profiling.

    Let's see if the Feds can convict the guy. The 5th is notoriously ULTRA conservative, with judicial garbage like P. Owen.

  14. #14
    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ TheSanityAnnex's Avatar
    My Team
    Sacramento Kings
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Post Count
    21,376
    the cash wasn't the point. The air fresheners, pro-cop sticker makes ANYONE of legitimate suspect.
    She was free to go with a warning after the initial stop, it was her dumb ass that gave the officer permission to speak to her husband.

  15. #15
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Post Count
    97,536
    She was free to go with a warning after the initial stop, it was her dumb ass that gave the officer permission to speak to her husband.
    you haven't watched the vid without pro-police-at-all-cost in your eyes

  16. #16
    Rum and Coke SupremeGuy's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Post Count
    10,795
    you rightwingnuts are ing stupid. the issue is racial/air-freshener/car-sticker profiling.

    Let's see if the Feds can convict the guy. The 5th is notoriously ULTRA conservative, with judicial garbage like P. Owen.
    #airfreshenersmatter

  17. #17
    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ TheSanityAnnex's Avatar
    My Team
    Sacramento Kings
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Post Count
    21,376
    you haven't watched the vid without pro-police-at-all-cost in your eyes
    Did she give the officer permission to speak to her husband yes or no?

  18. #18
    Veteran DarrinS's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Post Count
    42,561
    #airfreshenersmatter

  19. #19
    I play pretty, no? TeyshaBlue's Avatar
    My Team
    Dallas Mavericks
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Post Count
    13,321
    alternet

  20. #20
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Post Count
    97,536
    Did she give the officer permission to speak to her husband yes or no?
    she asked to record the prick, and he said, unCons utionally, no.

  21. #21
    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ TheSanityAnnex's Avatar
    My Team
    Sacramento Kings
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Post Count
    21,376
    she asked to record the prick, and he said, unCons utionally, no.
    Did she give the officer permission to speak to her husband yes or no?

  22. #22
    Veteran Wild Cobra's Avatar
    My Team
    Portland Trailblazers
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Post Count
    43,117
    uhhh...I would call $670,000 in cash in garbage sacks hidden in a false panel of the Tahoe probable cause for arrest.

    Typical alternet bull .
    Agreed.

    What part of the story isn't being told?

    I wish we had someone to replace Paul Harvey.

    I'd like to read "the rest of the story."

  23. #23
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Post Count
    97,536
    Did she give the officer permission to speak to her husband yes or no?
    I don't know. Is that against the law?

  24. #24
    Veteran Wild Cobra's Avatar
    My Team
    Portland Trailblazers
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Post Count
    43,117
    2 MPH!

    lane change w/o signalling!

    both are done 10Ms times per day, but watch out if you're black or brown
    Or if it's 2 AM...

    Now in this case, if there wasn't the overwhelming smell of FOUR new air fresheners, maybe it wouldn't be so su ious?

    Boutons....

    Have you ever used four new air fresheners in a car at the same time?

  25. #25
    Veteran Wild Cobra's Avatar
    My Team
    Portland Trailblazers
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Post Count
    43,117
    I don't know. Is that against the law?
    She was the driver. Just goes to show you didn't read the source material. Just your alter link.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •