I think most people would agree last season was definitely Green's best season as a pro. He posted career highs in practically every stat (including advanced metrics like PER/WS/BPM/VORP), and it was clearly his best season defensively IMO. Maybe my memory is just off, but it seemed like they ran more plays for him off screens and whatnot and he made slight improvements in terms of taking one or two dribbles and pulling up.
Obviously he won't get THAT much better, but is it unrealistic to think we haven't seen the best of him yet? I feel like defense in particular is something he could realistically continue to improve on. If you look at Bowen, he didn't peak defensively until his early to mid-30s.
Oh absolutely.
defensively, he's one of the best in the league but he does have discipline issues with fakes.
offensively..fake, one dribble and shot..So many instances last year, he'd fake and just lean his body awkwardly to the right and then shoot..
No. His offensive game is very limited becAuse he doesn't know how to dribble and has no touch. Defensively he is good and he should remain good.
To me I believe he'll improve in terms of consistency almost surely. Last year he was tasked to carry an increased burden because our mass of injuries...same with Manu and Duncan. It's no surprise that they were seemingly exhausted by the time the playoffs happened. This year (barring injuries again) his load will be lightened and he will be able to focus on his role. I think him having financial security and at a price he's repeatedly said is what he's worth has made him understand his importance to Pop and the Spurs and that he is the type of person to now want to make sure he lives up to it. Also, what helped Bruce will help Danny going forward (and Kawhi) defensively and that's familiarity with all of the players he will be guarding going forward. Facing these players continuously over time will allow them to understand tendencies, weaknesses/strengths etc and that is INVALUABLE. Bowen knew what his opponents wanted to do which is why he was expert at anticipation. Danny has been guarding the same players for 3-4 years now so there will be a confidence and comfort in effectively defending them going forward.
Now I don't think he'll be reliable this year putting the ball on the floor because traditionally, great shooters aren't great ball handlers...just something about the two that makes it so. And I don't think he will ever be a "great" finisher at the rim. But his improvement, again, will be in consistency from game-to-game defensively and offensively with a more appropriate role and burden given our upgrades. He'll be worth the 10 million no doubt!
He should work on his icy hot phases and learn a couple new offensive moves.
He's peaked on offensive moves, and he can still learn not to bite on every half assed fake on defense. If he can learn that, then that's all his hamster brain will be able to hold.
He's certainly improved his finishing, as Hedo never did as a Spur.
if he hires steve nash for 2 weeks, he can improve his dribling.
With Splitter and Baynes' minutes being given to people with range, maybe Danny won't be so paranoid of shot blockers and miss so many layups.
If he could finish at all around the rim or not be in the bottom 10% of dribbling guards, he'd be a max contract no questions asked. But he's not, and that's why the Spurs were able to afford him. A lot of teams would misuse him and he'd lose his efficiency. Spurs know how to best use him and let him flourish.
Agree. I have no expectation that he'll improve. Maybe less errors but he'll never learn how to score on the dribble. Kind of like Bruce Bowen, you can't expect much on the offensive end.
He doesn't need to. Danny is fine.
Well the real question is, if he stays as he is, will his jersey be retired?
If the Spurs win 2 more les with him in the team, then absolutely. Green's #14 gets retired even if he can't score on the dribble.
I'll take the best 3&D guy in the league tbh.
he can improve yes but the question was will he
He can - probably easier for him to improve than almost anyone in the league. He needs a dribble game.
I don't get comments like this. He can improve and still be a 3&D player you know
The point of this topic is asking whether you think it's realistic that he improves any. Do you see him becoming an even better defender that is perhaps more disciplined and less likely to lose his guy for brief moments? Do you think he can (or will) develop a reliable pump fake and 1-2 dribble pull-up shot? Do you think he'll improve at shooting while coming off screens like Korver/Re are known for? What other parts of his game could he realistically improve?
Yes, he's already a great player. But do you see him improving any, or do you think he's already reached his peak? That's what I'm asking.
He needs to. We can't have both of our wing players being offensive liabilities.
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Shortest camp ever?
As long as he'll work hard and wont injure himself, he'll always get better
There is not one good reason for him not to learn how to dribble the ball and finish at the rim. Come on that is like JV High School 101 coaching it's not to hard to learn it's not like we are asking him to be Steve Nash but be better then Shaq for Christ sake.....YOUR IN THE NBA..........Handle the damn rock..
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He does bite on fakes sometimes, but on the other hand he was also the 2nd leading shot blocker among SGs in the league last year: http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/pl...hooting-guards
I imagine Pop would prefer fewer blocks if it meant more fundamental D and fewer fouls, but it's probably a relatively minor issue considering what a good defender he is overall. The one area where I think he can improve is ball handling. That's what I'd have him spend hours & hours of work.
He's as good as he's going to get imo. But I think by virtue of having an elite offensive player like Aldridge playing with him his scoring average and 3PT% will go up a little bit next season. He is what he is, an elite defensive swingman with an elite three point shot. If he can perfect that two dribble pull up that's all you can really ask for tbh. He is the perfect option for us as a starting two-guard as is
I think he will be a more disciplined defender as he turns into a veteran. Stop biting on fakes, be a better off-ball defender, maneuvering around screens, etc.I don't get comments like this. He can improve and still be a 3&D player you know
The point of this topic is asking whether you think it's realistic that he improves any. Do you see him becoming an even better defender that is perhaps more disciplined and less likely to lose his guy for brief moments? Do you think he can (or will) develop a reliable pump fake and 1-2 dribble pull-up shot? Do you think he'll improve at shooting while coming off screens like Korver/Re are known for? What other parts of his game could he realistically improve?
Yes, he's already a great player. But do you see him improving any, or do you think he's already reached his peak? That's what I'm asking.
On the offensive end, whenever he tried that pump fake and 1-2 dribble pull up the ball usually did not go in the basket IIRC but I think he can improve on that. Not sure about him being as good a shooter as Korver/Red are coming off screens because his shot seems to rely heavily on balance. I haven't seen him take/make a lot of leaning/drifting/off-balance jumpers which are common when coming off screens. Also, although he's gotten slightly better at it over the years, his ability to finish around the basket is still pretty bad so I think it would be unrealistic to expect anymore improvement on that.
Anyway, Danny is already a great player. Any improvement would just be gravy imo.
He will not improve as a player as long as he's not getting rid of that soft, nice going guy at ude...
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