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    Controversy Koolaid_Man's Avatar
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    I have to admit about 2 weeks ago I started to wonder if this kid actually has the sauce....The summer league concerned me only from the standpoint of his draft position. Sure Steph Curry shot the same as Russell or even worse during his SL debut but then again he wasnt a 2nd pick in the draft and arguably the best player in the draft.

    My biggest concern with Russell right now is that he thinks he's a pretty boy like Kool... and doesnt really like to muck it up on the court...one thing for sure going back to his college and the Summer league is that he is a weak finisher at the rim....I mean really weak...doesnt have a floater either, or the explosive or lateral quickness....and I dont think he plays defense at all tbh.....so I'm having some doubts....however he does have his strengths...like passing and running an offense....he doesnt move like Curry without the ball and doesnt have a quick release like Curry either...so I would drop the Curry ccomparisons......he's more of a John Stockon type player..just good and decent all around but I havent seen that fire in his eyes or his game....he just passes and spots up,to shoot.....thats my early assessment we will see if it changes....

    We , are all sleeping on Jordan Clarkson....now that kid is the real deal..I dont see in Russell what I see in Clarkson tbh.....Clarkson is gonna be a bonafide superstar if he keeps working like he has....tbh the jury is out on Russell....but I will let him play his first NBA game before I solidify this opinion.....

    Just a heads up,from Kool and my extensive basketball knowledge, feel, and pedigree on these things...

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    faggy opinion + certainty Mark Celibate's Avatar
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    Lakers passed by Okafor to pick this dude

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    Controversy Koolaid_Man's Avatar
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    Lakers passed by Okafor to pick this dude
    Shut your lil female ass up....Okafer is an even bigger ? Mark

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    Lakers passed by Okafor to pick this dude

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    The Summer of Kool...50 years ago:::little thin packet, easy tear across the top, no scissors necessa, grab the cold, ever empty plastic jug out of the Frigidaire, the frig I would imminently///accidentally poke a hole in one of the A/C tubes prying out the ice tray with a steak knife, empty the thin packet of grape Kool Aid into the jug, a slight dust up of fine grape granular rising in Ohio air, the canister of sugar, always lacking, now fully prepared. A cup? tee, hee, uh, uh, cup & 1/2, and a smidge more, good, clean unfiltered Cleveland water halfway up, a little less even, then grab the trusty steak knife and start prying out those metal ice trays stuck to the bottom of the freezer in 1/4" ice fields. No hiss that day, my aim was fortunate, all three trays came up, I pulled back vigorously on the frozen metal lever and each one answered summarily. Dump each tray in, set each tray aside for another Robinson to refill, then grab mother Robinson's wooden spoon and start a stirrin'. Ploughin' thru all that water, ice & sugar was no easy accomplishment and I'd rarely accomplish it. I'd stir enough to turn it all purple, then take up the knife, that gloriously thick wooden handled knife and poke one last time, that last tray, the one buried in a 1/2" deep ice field, still innately ignorant of the hiss that was coming, a year, maybe two, but, not that morning. School was out, and the last tray released, I jacked the lever, it jacked, I took the vast lion's share of the ice from it, left the remainder to melt in the tray, grabbed the light blue Tupperware tumbler, washed the dried purple ash from the bottom, tossed the ice in, poured from the pitcher and took a long, 3 second draw to quench my ravenous thirst. Never understood why it only made me thirstier, refilled the plastic tumbler, left the pitcher on the counter to cool in the heat & humidity and went to watch Monte Hall, Carol Merrill, & Let's Make A Deal in B&W.

    The Summer of Kool

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    Controversy Koolaid_Man's Avatar
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    ^ Thanks sir Koolaid can be quite refreshing anytime...

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    Veteran Killakobe81's Avatar
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    I have to admit about 2 weeks ago I started to wonder if this kid actually has the sauce....The summer league concerned me only from the standpoint of his draft position. Sure Steph Curry shot the same as Russell or even worse during his SL debut but then again he wasnt a 2nd pick in the draft and arguably the best player in the draft.

    My biggest concern with Russell right now is that he thinks he's a pretty boy like Kool... and doesnt really like to muck it up on the court...one thing for sure going back to his college and the Summer league is that he is a weak finisher at the rim....I mean really weak...doesnt have a floater either, or the explosive or lateral quickness....and I dont think he plays defense at all tbh.....so I'm having some doubts....however he does have his strengths...like passing and running an offense....he doesnt move like Curry without the ball and doesnt have a quick release like Curry either...so I would drop the Curry ccomparisons......he's more of a John Stockon type player..just good and decent all around but I havent seen that fire in his eyes or his game....he just passes and spots up,to shoot.....thats my early assessment we will see if it changes....

    We , are all sleeping on Jordan Clarkson....now that kid is the real deal..I dont see in Russell what I see in Clarkson tbh.....Clarkson is gonna be a bonafide superstar if he keeps working like he has....tbh the jury is out on Russell....but I will let him play his first NBA game before I solidify this opinion.....

    Just a heads up,from Kool and my extensive basketball knowledge, feel, and pedigree on these things...
    Relax. He doesn't have elite quickness but his vertical is legit and reaction times are elite .... Along with unique vision. Needs to develop a Parker or Conley style floaters but neither guy had what they havevnow as rookies. Calm down the expectations. Not worried about Oakafor the true regret is not getting Towns.

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    Hopefully D'AR can shoot better than ...


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    Controversy Koolaid_Man's Avatar
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    Relax. He doesn't have elite quickness but his vertical is legit and reaction times are elite .... Along with unique vision. Needs to develop a Parker or Conley style floaters but neither guy had what they havevnow as rookies. Calm down the expectations. Not worried about Oakafor the true regret is not getting Towns.

    Verticle dont mean if you're a piss poor finisher at the rim....I want to see him getting by his man..remember a young Tony Parker..that lil sucker couldnt be stopped when he turned that corner and Parker was gonna finish at the rim...his blow bys game on the angles was unstoppable...I just dont see fire or more importantly real hustle in Russell..god I hope I'm wrong.....I see it Clarkson he went through summer league like a boss..like he didnt belong..if Clarkson had not been on our SL roster we would have been getting blown out by 40pts a night. lol seriously though...

    I'm gonna be watching Russell.....I wanna see how he reacts to an elbow....I hope Kobe treats him like ....toughen his pretty boy ass up....I really,want the best for him but he seems like he thinks he's the already....I want Lou Williams and nem to him up..make his ass earn it...he thinks becsuse he was drafted 2nd that means something that dont mean a mutha ing thing once that ball goes up....

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    Parker & Conley were both ahead of Russ in terms of finishing. . Plus both had way better athleticism. Not a good comparison.

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    Parker & Conley were both ahead of Russ in terms of finishing. . Plus both had way better athleticism. Not a good comparison.
    What? Wasn't comparing them as athletes just as saying they need work as PGs as rookies and both developed floaters . I chose them for that and because neither are Chris Paul Stephen Curry type game changers but both are top level which I think is Russell ceiling those expectations are to high but if he is somewhere between prime Parker and Conley I 'll take it ...he doesn't have to be a carbon copy of either to be a high quality starter on a contender, Deeps

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    Verticle dont mean if you're a piss poor finisher at the rim....I want to see him getting by his man..remember a young Tony Parker..that lil sucker couldnt be stopped when he turned that corner and Parker was gonna finish at the rim...his blow bys game on the angles was unstoppable...I just dont see fire or more importantly real hustle in Russell..god I hope I'm wrong.....I see it Clarkson he went through summer league like a boss..like he didnt belong..if Clarkson had not been on our SL roster we would have been getting blown out by 40pts a night. lol seriously though...

    I'm gonna be watching Russell.....I wanna see how he reacts to an elbow....I hope Kobe treats him like ....toughen his pretty boy ass up....I really,want the best for him but he seems like he thinks he's the already....I want Lou Williams and nem to him up..make his ass earn it...he thinks becsuse he was drafted 2nd that means something that dont mean a mutha ing thing once that ball goes up....

    Lol... he on your list now because he slighted Kobe...lol. You a cold . If he thinks that TMAC could even be in the conversation of GOAT then his talent evaluation is much worse than his ty summer league performance. Clarkson is legit and teams will have to prepare for him because that kid gets to the rim like a young Tony Parker. The truth is Russell is going to find it difficult to find minutes now that Lou is on the squad. Lou will command at least 30 minutes at the point. Clarkson might get even more minutes than Lou. Russell will get the scraps, and if he starts pre-season like he did summer league he'll find himself in the D-league developing. Knowing that jackass Byron Scott... he'll start Russell just because. I heard him say he's being Bass off the bench which means he's starting Randle based on college reputation alone. Right now Scott envisions a lineup of this...

    Russell
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    Kobe
    Randle
    Hibbert

    Reserves will be Lou, Bass, and Swaggy, Black. I like that reserve core... proven offense. I could be wrong about Randle and I hope I am. He seems committed to putting in the work.

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    Controversy Koolaid_Man's Avatar
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    Lol... he on your list now because he slighted Kobe...lol. You a cold . If he thinks that TMAC could even be in the conversation of GOAT then his talent evaluation is much worse than his ty summer league performance. Clarkson is legit and teams will have to prepare for him because that kid gets to the rim like a young Tony Parker. The truth is Russell is going to find it difficult to find minutes now that Lou is on the squad. Lou will command at least 30 minutes at the point. Clarkson might get even more minutes than Lou. Russell will get the scraps, and if he starts pre-season like he did summer league he'll find himself in the D-league developing. Knowing that jackass Byron Scott... he'll start Russell just because. I heard him say he's being Bass off the bench which means he's starting Randle based on college reputation alone. Right now Scott envisions a lineup of this...

    Russell
    Clarkson
    Kobe
    Randle
    Hibbert

    Reserves will be Lou, Bass, and Swaggy, Black. I like that reserve core... proven offense. I could be wrong about Randle and I hope I am. He seems committed to putting in the work.
    Lol naw Luva..I'm not trippin...I think his tweet was orchestrated anyway...but my take is legit on the basketball merits....he's currently the weakest guard on the team....needs some work...for some reason I get the impression his ass aint a hard worker....he seems like one of those cats that believe the hype about himself instead of puttin in the work....but we'll see...

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    . Stockton doesn't have that fire in his eyes.
    ignoring stockton's crazy compe iveness, outside shooting, defense and hard work.

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    . Stockton doesn't have that fire in his eyes.
    ignoring stockton's crazy compe iveness, outside shooting, defense and hard work.
    Glad I'm not the only one who caught that .
    Calling the all time assists leader "decent all around"
    But Kool is a great basketball mind

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    Okafor is the most NBA ready player in the draft and Laker fan wants to say he is a question mark or down play it,,,LMAO

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    Give the kid a chance. What ya got to lose?

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    Okafor is the most NBA ready player in the draft and Laker fan wants to say he is a question mark or down play it,,,LMAO
    He probably is most ready but it would be dumb for a non contender to draft based on that he is more game ready than Towns should Minnesota passed on him too? we Ew"swung" for the high potential high risk guy. According to ESPN advanced stats he has the highest super star rating potential pre draft but also the highest bust potential ...I agree and don't mind a gamble since we suck anyways

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    He probably is most ready but it would be dumb for a non contender to draft based on that he is more game ready than Towns should Minnesota passed on him too? we Ew"swung" for the high potential high risk guy. According to ESPN advanced stats he has the highest super star rating potential pre draft but also the highest bust potential ...I agree and don't mind a gamble since we suck anyways
    Why would it be dumb? If your franchise is down,,,you go with the safe/solid pick and don't get cute with it. Okafor was the safe pick.

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    Why would it be dumb? If your franchise is down,,,you go with the safe/solid pick and don't get cute with it. Okafor was the safe pick.
    Disagree ...you gamble when you have nothing to lose .. when you are close to a le you play it safe ...

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    Why would it be dumb? If your franchise is down,,,you go with the safe/solid pick and don't get cute with it. Okafor was the safe pick.
    You take the guy who long term will be the best player ...oakafor may win roty but twolves took who they think will be better long term same as Lakers ...I think they got best player in this draft Lakers better hope they at least got 2nd best ...

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    Disagree ...you gamble when you have nothing to lose .. when you are close to a le you play it safe ...
    But you have everything to lose,,you are the Lakers for Christ sakes,,,,they(Laker fan) don't pay for a gamble,,,they pay for results,,,,

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    But you have everything to lose,,you are the Lakers for Christ sakes,,,,they(Laker fan) don't pay for a gamble,,,they pay for results,,,,
    common ass no stones impatient Lakers fans. ..Idgaf what they want.
    I roll with real Lakers fans like Cube and his son ...

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    Mudiay will have a better career than D'Bust. If Chaz didn't want Okafor and was intent on a guard, he should have traded down and taken Mudiay. D'Bust was a terrible selection at 2.

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    Mudiay will have a better career than D'Bust. If Chaz didn't want Okafor and was intent on a guard, he should have traded down and taken Mudiay. D'Bust was a terrible selection at 2.
    Trade down, eh...

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