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    I gots me a math question

    I am putting together a kickball tournament with a bunch of people I know. I am trying to figure out the max number of teams I can have in the time allotted. Here are is the information.

    3 fields
    6 hours of play
    Double elimination
    Number of teams = X

    I’m thinking each game will last 30 minutes or, if time permits, 45 minutes.

    30 min a game = X number of teams
    45 min a game = X number of teams

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    I gots me a math question

    I am putting together a kickball tournament with a bunch of people I know. I am trying to figure out the max number of teams I can have in the time allotted. Here are is the information.

    3 fields
    6 hours of play
    Double elimination
    Number of teams = X

    I’m thinking each game will last 30 minutes or, if time permits, 45 minutes.

    30 min a game = X number of teams
    45 min a game = X number of teams
    I'm not sure what you're axing. How many teams do you think you're going to have?
    You should create divisions and then move them into a bracket. Seems like you could maximize use of the fields this way and also have a 3rd place game.


    Without knowing more, my answer is 37.5789.

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    And how many ing people do you know where having 3 fields for 6 hours is not enough time?

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    I'm talking about a lot of people.

    I have to figure out the brackets.

    I figured 36 games would be max too and I am going to scale it back a little from there. I was thinking 14-16 teams maybe

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    What kind of got plays kickball??

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    I'm talking about a lot of people.

    I have to figure out the brackets.

    I figured 36 games would be max too and I am going to scale it back a little from there. I was thinking 14-16 teams maybe
    I'd forget about double elimination. If you have 16, I'd split them into 4 divisions of 4. Each plays the other 3 teams in their division. So everyone is guaranteed 3 games. Then take the top 2 teams in each division and put them in a bracket. Use some parameter like run differential to break ties.

    If you have 14 teams, make 2 divisions of 4 where they play each other. Then create 2 divisions with 3 teams each and each plays the 3 teams in the other bracket. If you do this, take the winner of each division and then the next 4 best teams by record (using tiebreaker if needed).

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    I gots me a math question

    I am putting together a kickball tournament with a bunch of people I know. I am trying to figure out the max number of teams I can have in the time allotted. Here are is the information.

    3 fields
    6 hours of play
    Double elimination
    Number of teams = X

    I’m thinking each game will last 30 minutes or, if time permits, 45 minutes.

    30 min a game = X number of teams
    45 min a game = X number of teams
    3 fields times six hours of play = 18 hours of available time

    Divided by 45 minutes per game:
    18/.75

    24 games total possible.

    double elimination would require at least two, if not 3 games

    two teams would require, then 2 or 3 games

    four teams would require twice as many, 4 to 6 games

    eight teams would require twice as many 8-12 games

    16 teams would require 16 to 24 games

    Roughly about 16 teams. That would give you a buffer to allow for the normal human sluggishness in changing fields, subs uting players, arguing about calls, and fistfights between parents, and police intervention in fist-fights.

    I'm sure there is some algebra involved, but one doesn't need much math to walk through it.

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    The problem with double elimination is that you'll have a hard time preparing a schedule. You won't know which teams will be eliminated and how many games it's going to take them. It will be a mess.

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    OOohhhh yeah! You know I like it when you talk dirty to me.

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    I guess what I am looking for is for everyone to get some PT. I would hate to do 1 game and then you're done.

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    That's what I was thinking too. I want to be able to allow for some bs time in between.

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    I guess what I am looking for is for everyone to get some PT. I would hate to do 1 game and then you're done.
    Yeah. I just gave you a solution earlier. It's how I run our LARP tourneys. Everyone is happy.

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    Yeah. That looks like it could work well too.

    You should talk to my buddy CTOA. He is WAY into LARPing as well.

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    The problem with double elimination is that you'll have a hard time preparing a schedule. You won't know which teams will be eliminated and how many games it's going to take them. It will be a mess.
    it's not that hard to number each game and create a winners and losers bracket.

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    it's not that hard to number each game and create a winners and losers bracket.
    It's impossible.

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    How? I use that every year for a bball tourney that I am in. I just don't have access to 3 courts during that time. The extra court threw me off a little.

    But the winners bracket and losers bracket usually works out. You lose once and go to the losers bracket. From there you have to win all the way in order to make it to the "championship" game.

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    How? I use that every year for a bball tourney that I am in. I just don't have access to 3 courts during that time. The extra court threw me off a little.

    But the winners bracket and losers bracket usually works out. You lose once and go to the losers bracket. From there you have to win all the way in order to make it to the "championship" game.
    Lame.

    So you have access to 3 softball fields and thousands of friends to play but can't Secure 3 bball courts? Small time.

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    How? I use that every year for a bball tourney that I am in. I just don't have access to 3 courts during that time. The extra court threw me off a little.

    But the winners bracket and losers bracket usually works out. You lose once and go to the losers bracket. From there you have to win all the way in order to make it to the "championship" game.
    Hey...do you remember it being "Berenstein Bears" or "Berenstain Bears"?

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    Lame.

    So you have access to 3 softball fields and thousands of friends to play but can't Secure 3 bball courts? Small time.
    LMAO


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    I gots me a math question

    I am putting together a kickball tournament with a bunch of people I know. I am trying to figure out the max number of teams I can have in the time allotted. Here are is the information.

    3 fields
    6 hours of play
    Double elimination
    Number of teams = X

    I’m thinking each game will last 30 minutes or, if time permits, 45 minutes.

    30 min a game = X number of teams
    45 min a game = X number of teams
    u trying to run a business?

    when i was in vietnam on numerous trips each year, i see alot of clowns buying or renting land then turning it into outdoor soccer fields the size of basketball courts, and running small tournaments where they charge 10bucks an hour...they operate like 24/7 ....

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    No business, homie. Just one day with a bunch of friends and fam to have fun. I rented a place with fields and we are just going to get together and have a good time. Nobody is getting charged.

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