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    U.S. gun violence "dwarfs any deaths that happen through terrorism." - President Barack Obama

    Found Here: http://all-hat-no-cattle.blogspot.com/

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    USA #1 -- Undisputed Champs

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    Definitely not because there are too many guns. Definitely not.

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    And we have more people in prison too.

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    'Merica

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    gun homicides, the one sport every country plays, and USA is World Champion, and perennial, untouchable leader in the Premier League of developed countries.

    Got a problem, even just perceived problem (like cop's ego threat)? Shoot somebody. It's The American Way

    2nd Amendment!

    marans!

    Freedom!

    home defense! ("Of the female murder victims for whom the relationships to their offenders were known, 37.5 percent were murdered by their husbands or boyfriends.", not by the crazed black hordes which huge raping s)

    Water the tree!

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    There is a quick way to cut our murder rate in half, but it involves removing 7% of our population.

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    apples and oranges. the picture looks different when you at industrialized countries:

    The seminal work here is a 1999 book by Berkeley's Franklin Zimring and Gordon Hawkins, called Crime Is not the Problem. Zimring and Hawkins set out to examine what was, at the time, the conventional wisdom: that America had a uniquely terrible crime problem, one without any parallel in other developed democracies.


    They found, pretty definitively, that the conventional wisdom was wrong. "Rates of common property crimes in the United States are comparable to those reported in many other Western industrial nations, but rates of lethal violence in the United States are much higher," they write. "Violence is not a crime problem."


    Zimring and Hawkins determined this by looking at 20 developed countries' overall crime rate and rates of violent death. They found virtually no connection between the two, indicating that a country's level of violent death wasn't determined by its overall crime levels:
    The lowest death rate country (England) has a crime rate just over average. The next lowest violence nation is Japan, which has the lowest crime rate also. The third lowest death rate country is the Netherlands, in the highest crime rate group.
    "This data set provides a multinational example of the central point that lethal violence is the crucial problem in the United States," Zimring and Hawkins write. "It shows the United States clustered with other industrial countries in crime rate, but head and shoulders above the rest in violent death."
    http://www.vox.com/2015/8/27/9217163...ca-guns-europe

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    There is a quick way to cut our murder rate in half, but it involves removing 7% of our population.
    your dream come true?






    (regulating handguns would be politically more realistic and in the long run, more effective)

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    even at half the rate of intentional homicide, we put other industrialized countries in the shade. the problem isn't African-Americans. it's the prevalence of guns.

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    (regulating handguns would be politically more realistic and in the long run, more effective)
    Of course not but it is something the liberals on this board ignore talking about. 7% of the population committing 50% of the murders is insane, but let's instead focus on the gun fellators in Plano, TX where the murder rate is like 0.5 per 100,000

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    does being black tend to make you a murderer? what's the chain of causation here?

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    you know, since you want to talk about it.

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    dangerous floater Winehole23's Avatar
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    what's the significance of the data point you keep emphasizing? can you unpack it?

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    New Orleans – 53.2 per 100,000
    St. Louis – 35.5 per 100,000
    Baltimore – 34.9 per 100,000
    Newark - 34.4 per 100,000
    Oakland – 31,8 per 100,000
    Stockton – 23.7 per 100,000
    Kansas City – 22.6 per 100,000
    Philadelphia – 21.5 per 100,000
    Cleveland – 21.3 per 100,000
    Memphis – 20.2 per 100,000
    Atlanta – 19.0 per 100,000
    Chicago – 18.5 per 100,000





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    New Orleans – 53.2 per 100,000
    St. Louis – 35.5 per 100,000
    Baltimore – 34.9 per 100,000
    Newark - 34.4 per 100,000
    Oakland – 31,8 per 100,000
    Stockton – 23.7 per 100,000
    Kansas City – 22.6 per 100,000
    Philadelphia – 21.5 per 100,000
    Cleveland – 21.3 per 100,000
    Memphis – 20.2 per 100,000
    Atlanta – 19.0 per 100,000
    Chicago – 18.5 per 100,000




    What do these statistics mean? Those are just raw figures.

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    What do these statistics mean? Those are just raw figures.
    Homicides per 100k?

    I believe East St. Louis is the reigning murder capitol

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    What do these statistics mean? Those are just raw figures.
    Homicide rate.

    You were saying something about it not being an African-American problem.

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    Splits is here this should be fun

    83%>90%

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    Homicide rate.

    You were saying something about it not being an African-American problem.
    That's right.

    Dead African American bodies is just a symptom; the ready availability of guns is the most likely proximate cause of the high rate of violent death in the US.

    But if you want to use race as a predictor and let all consideration cease with that, please suit yourself.

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    seems to be you're maybe overstressing the explanatory value of the bare fact of racial phenotype of the perps (and the victims) with respect to murders in the USA.

    what does it mean that African-Americans commit one half of the homicides in the US?

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    other than the fact that such statistics, you know, make such a great prop for arrogant racists who think they're winning online. you did want to talk about this right?

    CN, DarrinS and TSA: don't y'all have anything to say about the statistics you posted?

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    no takes on own posts? raw figures only?




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