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This is tuff, Point Guard also brings a lot of intangibles, like leadership, savvy, smarts, being able to . Some things like leadership and smarts aren't Tony's stronger points. But Id say he would rank in the top 10 easy.
Where would you all rate Tony Parker overall and amongst point guards?
Here are some other point guards in the NBA. Some are considered PG/SG's, but that's not important.
Kirk Hinrich
Jason Terry
Andre Miller
Chauncey Billups
Baron Davis
Jamaal Tinsley
Sam Cassell
Jason Williams
TJ Ford
Marko Jaric
Stephon Marbury
Steve Francis
Allen Iverson
Steve Nash
Mike Bibby
Rafer Alston
Gilbert Arenas
This is tuff, Point Guard also brings a lot of intangibles, like leadership, savvy, smarts, being able to . Some things like leadership and smarts aren't Tony's stronger points. But Id say he would rank in the top 10 easy.
I agree quite well with this article :
http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/3900858
Tony is end top 10 point guard.
If you look at contract, age, injury, PG who are undersized SG and character, I only choose over Parker : Iverson, Nash, Billups and Bibby.
Top 10.
I'd say around 10 though
^^ and what's up with all these "Where would you rate" threads.?
Point guard is so hard to rate because different teams need different things out of their point - pure distributor vs scoring point, etc.
I'd say he's somewhere near 9 or 10. If he comes in this year with a consistent jumper, that number will be rise quickly.
I'm going to be a total girl here and say that both Manu and Tony rate much higher in cuteness/hotness than any other player listed in both threads.
I'm going to be a total girl here and say that both Manu and Tony rate much higher in cuteness/hotness than any other player listed in both threads.I was thinking the same.
I'd say Parker was around 7 or 8. I still think Bibby is overated.
1. Steve Nash
2. Allen Iverson
3. Jason Kidd
4. Stephon Marbury
5. Steve Franics
6. Baron Davis
7. Gilbert Arenas
8. Mike Bibby
9. Chauncey Billups
10. Jamaal Tinsley
11. Andre Miller
12. Kirk Hinrich
13. Jason Terry
14. Rafer Alston
15. Tony Parker
1Allen Iverson
2Jason Kidd
3Steve Nash
4Tony Parker
5Chauncey Billups
6Mike Bibby
7Baron Davis
8Gilbert Arenas
9Steve Francis
10Stephon Marbury
11Jamaal Tinsley
12Kirk Hinrich
13Sam Cassell
14Andre Miller
15Jason Terry
16Jason Williams
17Rafer Alston
18Marko Jaric
The Artest Factor is correct, Rafer Alston > Tony Parker.
But he is not the biggest Pacers Homer
http://www2.indystar.com/articles/7/...-3967-116.html
I don't see the Pacers trading Foster to the Spurs, unless they get Tim Duncan in return.
In no way should Tony Parker EVER get rated higher than Chauncy...NEVER.1Allen Iverson
2Jason Kidd
3Steve Nash
4Tony Parker
5Chauncey Billups
6Mike Bibby
7Baron Davis
8Gilbert Arenas
9Steve Francis
10Stephon Marbury
11Jamaal Tinsley
12Kirk Hinrich
13Sam Cassell
14Andre Miller
15Jason Terry
16Jason Williams
17Rafer Alston
18Marko Jaric
1. Steve Nash
2. Allen Iverson
3. Jason Kidd
4. Stephon Marbury
5. Steve Franics
6. Baron Davis
7. Gilbert Arenas
8. Chauncey Billups
9. Tony Parker
10 Andre Miller
Anyone on that list without a ring needs to step down BELOW parker.....
You could argue he is already a better regular season player. Probably within 2 years Parker will be better than Billups ever was. But for now, Billups is quite a bit ahead of Tony in playoff pressure games/series'.In no way should Tony Parker EVER get rated higher than Chauncy...NEVER.
IMO parker is overrated, till the day he has an accurate jumpshot like beno then he be deadly, same with beno if only had the quickness of parker on the court.
Parker just got exposed in the euro champs, is he goin to go out and say fiba rules sucks?
Sure, you could argue Tony Parker is a better regular season player, but you would be wrong. And, Spurs fans should know as much as any fan that the post season is where a basketball player earns his paycheck.
The only facet Tony Parker is better than Chauncey Billups is in quickness.
Billups is bigger, stronger, and a better shooter. Neither racks up a lot of assists for a point guard, but that's in part due to the offensive systems of each respective team.
I would be really cautious about saying Parker will be better than Billups ever was. Pundits and biased fans have said things like "Steve Francis is a sure hall of famer" or "Eddy Curry is the next Shaq" or "Darko Milicic is Dirk Nowitzki and Kevin Garnett combined" or "Andre Miller will lead the league in assists for many years to come."
I like Tony Parker, and I think he just needs to improve his consistency and his mental approach to be an elite PG. But, even though Chauncey Billups had a rough beginning to his professional basketball career, over the last three seasons, including post season, he has shown to be an elite level point guard, a clutch scorer, and a headline playmaker. To casually and nonchalantly throw out such a seemingly confident statement like Parker will be better than Chauncey Billups ever was is to totally disrespect Billups.
How much better can a player be than the MVP of the NBA Finals??? It would be like saying AMARE STOUDEMIRE will definitely have a better career than TIM DUNCAN. It's laughable.
Guess I am gonna be a total Spurs homer, but I am asking myself who I would trade Tony Parker for straight-up on that list. Are AI and Marbury better PGs than Parker? Yes. Would I trade TP for either of them? Nope. They each just have too much baggage and would drag the Spurs down. Would I trade TP for Billups? In a heart-beat, I really like Billups and think he would fit in well with the Spur's system.
So with that criteria if who I would actually be willing to trade TP for given the Spurs system and how well they would mesh with the Spurs.
1) Nash
2) Billups - Hard to argue with a finals MVP, and the Spurs eyes are on the Finals
3) Kidd
4) Davis
5) Arenas
6) Parker
Maybe something like that. If Parker develops a consistent jumpshot I think we will see a much better PG as that will make him more effective in the reg season, but should also really help his post-season play.
coopdogg3
1.Allen Iverson
2.Steve Nash
3.Gilbert Arenas
4.Chauncey Billups
5.Stephon Marbury
6.Tony Parker
It's just wrong to put guys like Steve Francis and Mike Bibby higher than Parker...Parker has owned them both..badly...
Come to think of it...Parker has owned every one of these guys except for the ones I ranked ahead of him.
Parker is under-rated...but hey...he's only 23 still the age of a many college rookies...let's see if he establishes himself as one of the truly elite PG's in the NBA this year.
FWIW...Parker will never have high assist totals on a team with Tim Duncan...but if he could hit his Free Throws he would have already established himself as a great scoring PG...of the 18-20 PPG variety.
I think by the end of this season he will have proved himself an All Star/All NBA PG...
I personally think he should have made an All NBA D team last year..
It's very difficult to compare Tony to various guards because of the current role he assumes. One must also consider the potential a player can achieve. It is not unreasonable to assume that Tony has the most potential of any point guard in this league, although only time will tell if he is able to achieve the expectations that have been set before him. You can only compare the progress and achievements Tony has made, with the progress and achievements that other guards have made during the same period during their careers. That being said, Tony would be placed in the top 3. I remember when the Spurs originally turned down a trade involving Tony Parker and Gary Payton. Was Payton more capable at the time? Yes, but Tony had an incredible amount of potential which the Spurs thought would benefit the team long-term. Of each player listed, Tony has produced more positive results than any with the 4 years he has played in this league. Yes, even Jason Kidd, who failed to provide Dallas with a consistant winning percentage. You cannot judge a player upon the unknown.
Tony Parker would tear Tinsley apart. This may be difficult for any Pacer fan to comprehend, and I will not hold it against anyone. As a fan, you always feel that you have the best players, unless of course, your a Clippers fan. I would have a hard time placing Tinsley in the top 5, let alone the top 10 among point guards.
I'd put JKidd and Bibby ahead of him.
That's just for one year only. Long term I would go with Parker above everyone except maybe Billups, Iverson, and Arenas.
this is all that matters.And, Spurs fans should know as much as any fan that the post season is where a basketball player earns his paycheck.
I will rate him after tomorow game against SLOVENIA!!!
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