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Is Vladimir Putin right to label Turkey ‘accomplices of terrorists’?
Guardian
http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...plane-analysisTurkey’s international airports have also been busy. Many, if not most, of the estimated 15,000-20,000 foreign fighters to have joined Islamic State (Isis) have first flown into Istanbul or Adana, or arrived by ferry along its Mediterranean coast.
The influx has offered fertile ground to allies of Assad who, well before a Turkish jet shot down a Russian fighter on Tuesday, had enabled, or even supported Isis. Vladimir Putin’s reference to Turkey as “accomplices of terrorists” is likely to resonate even among some of Ankara’s backers.
From midway through 2012, when jihadis started to travel to Syria, their presence was apparent at all points of the journey to the border: at Istanbul airport, in the southern cities of Hatay and Gaziantep – both of which were staging points – and in the border villages. Foreigners on their way to fight remained fixtures on these routes until late in 2014 when, after continued pressure from the EU states and the US, coordinated efforts were made to turn them back.
By then, Isis had become a dominant presence in parts of north and east Syria. It had splintered non-ideological factions of the Syrian opposition as well as Islamist groups, both of which had been backed by Turkey, and ensured that whatever form of governance that emerged from Syria’s ruins would have little to do with the revolution’s original goals.
The steady stream of foreigners who passed through Hatay and Gaziantep made little effort to remain discreet, gathering regularly in local hotels, coffee shops and bus stations. European diplomats alarmed by the gathering threat concluded that the Turkish leadership was sympathetic to conservative Islamists travelling to fight Assad, who had, until his brutal response to pro-democracy demonstrations in 2011, been a friend of the Turkish president, Recep Tayyip Erdoğan. “After that he became an enemy,” said one western official. “Erdoğan had tried to mentor Assad. But after the crackdown he felt insulted by him. And we are where we are today.”
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...DycpZ7FLUHv.97Turkey summoned Moscow's ambassador on Friday and called for an immediate end to the Russian military operation near its border in northern Syria, which it said included "heavy bombardment" of Turkmen civilian villages.
Read more at Reutershttp://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/23/us-mideast-crisis-syria-turkey-idUSKBN0TC0GZ20151123#ywItSfKJAIQ9KGqE.99Russian air strikes in support of Assad's forces have shifted the balance of power in the conflict and dealt a setback to Turkey's aim of seeing Assad removed from power.
The provincial governor of Turkey's Hatay province, which borders the area where the bombing is taking place, said around 1,700 Turkmens had fled toward Turkey over the last three days, state-run Anadolu Agency reported.
Obama says Turkey "has a right to defend its territory and its airspace." And he says that Russia is operating very close to the Turkish border as it goes after moderate opposition groups that are supported by Turkey and a wide range of countries.
The president says that if Russia would instead concentrate its airstrikes on the Islamic State group, then mistakes would be "less likely to occur."
Obama is urging both Turkey and France to take measures "to discourage any kind of escalation" over the downing of the Russian warplane.
And Obama says that the downing of the plane underscores the importance of moving forward on efforts to find a political solution to the civil war in Syria.
Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireS...fight-35391544
Read more: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a6746846.htmlA US-armed Syrian rebel group claims it has hit a Russian military helicopter with an anti-tank missile, forcing it to make an emergency landing.
The helicopter was understood to have been among a number of Russian aircraft searching for the two pilots from an Su-24 jet which was downed by the Turkish military.
According to the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, Free Syrian Army officials said its fighters successfully targeted the Russian search helicopter with anti-tank weaponry.
The insurgent group is among the recipients of US Tow missiles, among other armaments, designed to bolster it against regime forces.
Turkey has entered the war on the side of the Islamic State, the Vice President of the Italian Senate Roberto Calderoli said..."
Read more: http://sputniknews.com/politics/2015...#ixzz3sQoJ88io
His view is in contradiction to that of the official Italian govt. stance, but still...
Turkey is going to have to decide whether they're with the terrorists or with those who are trying to defeat them.
Time to fish or cut bait.
MOSCOW—Russia said a marine was killed when one of its helicopters was fired upon during a search and rescue mission for the pilots of a Su-24 jet fighter downed by Turkish warplane earlier Tuesday.
“With the aim of evacuating the Russian pilots from where they landed, a search and rescue mission was carried out with the use of two Mi-8 helicopters,” Lt. Gen. Sergei Rudsky said during a Defense Ministry briefing.
“In the course of the operation, one of the helicopters sustained gunfire and completed an emergency landing in neutral territory. One marine was killed,” he said.
Lt. Gen. Rudsky also said that according to preliminary data one of the two pilots flying in the Su-24 that was shot down by a Turkish F-16 jet fighter had been killed from arms fire from the ground in midair while parachuting. Videos emerged showing rebel fighters shooting at a pilot as he descended on a parachute. Russian state television showed images of the rebels rejoicing as they recovered the pilot’s dead body.
Read more: http://www.wsj.com/articles/russia-s...ots-1448391549
NATO is harbouring the Islamic State
Further corroboration came from a Sky News Arabia report by correspondent Stuart Ramsey, which revealed that the Turkish government was certifying passports of foreign militants crossing the Turkey-Syria border to join ISIS. The passports, obtained from Kurdish fighters, had the official exit stamp of Turkish border control, indicating the ISIS militants had entered Syria with full knowledge of Turkish authorities.
The dilemma facing the Erdogan administration is summed up by the FSMO: “If the country cracks down on illegal passports and militants transiting the country, the militants may target Turkey for attack. However, if Turkey allows the current course to continue, its diplomatic relations with other countries and internal political situation will sour.”
This barely scratches the surface. A senior Western official familiar with a large cache of intelligence obtained this summer from a major raid on an ISIS safehouse told the Guardian that “direct dealings between Turkish officials and ranking ISIS members was now ‘undeniable.’”
The same official confirmed that Turkey, a longstanding member of NATO, is not just supporting ISIS, but also other jihadist groups, including Ahrar al-Sham and Jabhat al-Nusra, al-Qaeda’s affiliate in Syria. “The distinctions they draw are thin indeed,” said the official. “There is no doubt at all that they militarily cooperate with both.”
https://medium.com/insurge-intellige...s-d24db3a24a40
That rescue helicopter was shot down using a US supplied missile.
That's undeniably a war crime.
Your tax dollars at work.
Better keep trying to overthrow assad.
McCain knows how to tell the good rebels from the bad.
USA = god's nation. Russia = evil empire
Last edited by angrydude; 11-25-2015 at 04:55 AM.
Comments on youtube running 2 out of 3 pro russia......interesting...
http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/11/...ed-the-border/According to Syrian Free Press: “… the Russians fly very near to the border and bomb position of some anti-Syrian fighters Turkey supports. They have good reasons to do so: The town, in a mountainous region of northern Latakla province, has been a prime route for smuggling people and goods between Turkey and Syria and reportedly has functioned as a key entry for weapons shipped to Syrian rebels by the U.S.-led Friends of Syria group of Western and Middle Eastern countries.
The Oct. 6 report continues: “One Russian plane may even indeed have slightly crossed the border while manoeuvring . But the real reason is because Turkey unilaterally ‘moved’ the Turkish-Syrian border five miles south. Turkey has maintained a buffer zone five miles inside Syria since June 2012, when a Syrian air defense missile shot down a Turkish fighter plane that had strayed into Syrian airspace. Under revised rules of engagement put in effect then, the Turkish air force would evaluate any target coming within five miles of the Turkish border as an enemy and act accordingly.”
Turkey arrests editors over reports Ankara supplied weapons to Syrian fighters
Source: The Telegraph
Read more: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-fighters.htmlThe journalists were arrested, accused of assisting a terrorist organisation because of footage published apparently showing the state intelligence agency sending weapons into Syria
Two journalists from an opposition Turkish newspaper have been arrested, accused of spying by an Istanbul court following reports that Turkey's intelligence agency sent weapons to Islamist rebel groups in Syria.
In another case of journalists facing criminal charges and censorship, editor-in-chief Can Dundar and Erdem Gul, the newspaper's Ankara bureau chief, were taken into custody on Thursday night, Turkish media reported.
The two men are accused of spying and "divulging state secrets", according to reports, as well as being members of a terror organisation. Another charge included the violation of state security after the release of the footage.
Turkey moves 20 tanks to its border and sends 18 fighter jets on patrol as Russia crisis continues
Source: Mirror
Turkey has moved 20 tanks to its border with Syria as tensions with Russia continue.
Military sources from Turkey said the tanks were moved by rail to an armored brigade at its western border with Syria.
Reports also say 18 fighter jets were sent on a patrol exercise near the border.
A military source told Turkey’s Anadolu agency: "Accompanied by police and gendarmes, 20 tanks were sent by rail from Turkey’s western provinces by railway to Gaziantep in the south of the country, and then redirected to the Syrian border."
Read more: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-n...border-6903087
Lol Adolfgan going after his reporters who expose his terrorist links
The only thing Adolfgan can beat is his boyfriends meat
Turkey warns Russia not to 'play with fire' over downed jet
Source: BBC
Read more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34941093Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has warned Russia's President Vladimir Putin not to "play with fire" over his country's downing of a Russian jet.
Mr Erdogan also said he wanted to meet Mr Putin "face-to-face" at climate talks in Paris to resolve the issue.
Mr Putin wants an apology from Turkey before he will speak to Mr Erdogan, the Russian president's aide said.
Russia has suspended its visa-free arrangement with Turkey in the latest of a range of retaliatory measures.
Erdogain is as stupid as they come
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