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Good stuff, thanks!
A coach took the time to put this together. Thought I'd share:
Good stuff, thanks!
No problem. It was a nice summary of basic Lamarcus' sets.Good stuff, thanks!
I am sure we have been scouted out. The lob passes are not always there, and once guys get doubled, secondary actions get triggered that have ended in some mishaps.
TD is such a badass passer
Best player on the team
Td is such an underrated passer. Oh btw not funny and unoriginal. No brain fraud ^^^
LaMarcus shall lead us to the promised land.
You heard it from me first, hehe
Tnx for posting, very interesting.
I think i prefer all those plays over a Kawhi post up.
Nothing against Kawhi, but his offense provokes nothing, the defense itself collapses on the paint making almost impossible for us to get an offensive rebound and the worst part is that our best defender is not there for the defensive transition.
I think you have to find ways to initiate the offense for Kawhi in other ways than the post up, you can get him off the curl, or teach him how to play the pick and roll. But the problem with the current use is that it has almost no spacing and he seems to take an awful lot of time doing his Kobe thing.
Aldridge is getting acclimated-- the numbers are pretty clear on this:
In November, he shot 44.3% from the field for 15.9 ppg.
In December, he has shot 51.6% from the field for 16.2 ppg. His December numbers would probably be even better were it not for a large number of blow out wins where he played limited minutes. He has played fewer mpg and had fewer FGA per game in December, but stilled slightly raised his ppg number.
http://espn.go.com/nba/player/gamelo...arcus-aldridge
Good stuff. Thanks.
Yep.
Kawhi is unequivocally the best player on the team now, but LMA is still the guy you want to build the offense around. A wing in the post just doesn't do as much damage as a big does in the same position. And it's easier to get him open. Of course, if Leonard is going to keep being the best three-point shooter in the league, it may not matter how much LMA helps get other guys involved.
I agree to an extent, I just don't think the current roster needs to have the offense "built" around any single player.
Nah, he's a 'bad passer'. KenziE told me.
If you mean that you don't think one player is going to get the majority of the touches, then I agree. But if you mean you don't think one player is going to one who is the first option on the majority of the plays, I disagree. As that video showed, the Spurs pretty much have LMA as the their top option every time down the floor. Teams having to guard against that helps the Spurs run their sets better. A Green-to-LMA entry pass is like Gravity City. Leonard and to a lesser extent Parker can get their points just by being great scorers. But the opponents are game-planning to stop Aldridge.
I guess the question really is whether the Spurs can get to a position to take a high efficiency shot even when teams game plan against them.
The offense needs to be dynamic enough that even if it is read correctly by the defender that the Spurs have an alternative option.
The high-low action is great because it is a high percentage shot. However, it is kind of like a football touch down play that requires a good pass, good timing and it not being intercepted.
The contested post shots are a low percentage shot. You can just look at LMA's numbers and honestly a defending team should give it to him everytime.
The open mid-range elbow is a decent as Tony Parker's mid-range elbow. I prefer however the open 3 point shot over the mid-range. The efficiency is better and the chances of a rebound are better if you are at the 3 point line. Even statistically, being able to retrieve a rebound from a 3 point shot is higher than that from a mid-range jumper. It is strange, but those are what the stats show.
I mean that I don't think the offense should function with any one player consistently being the focal point. There's enough chemistry (even with LMA on the floor) that they don't have to limit themselves in this way.
Well, that would make sense if the play is consistently a high percentage scoring. Unfortunately you just have to look at the numbers to see that LMA percentages aren't where it should be for a max player.
It's not about how the Spurs choose to score. It's about how the Spurs choose to make teams defend them. You want teams to have to put get a big down to check LMA every time down the court. You want to force teams to bring that second big over to help in the post. You want teams to leave the PnR ball-handler open because they can't rotate off LMA. These are things that Leonard and Parker simply can't do.
The Spurs aren't making LMA the first option because they want him to score all the time. They are doing so because that puts the most pressure on the other team -- especially in today's game where bigs aren't well trained in post defense. LMA has been the first option on offense all season, yet Parker and Leonard are having great years scoring. I think that shows why he's been such a solid foundation.
Good points. Only difference between the high-low and a red zone play in football is even if you get picked off 1/3 of the time, it's still good for 1.3 PPP - in football, that would be atrocious. Even if he doesn't get a clean look off it, can run into other sets. One advantage Spurs have is they get up floor in 4 seconds and have plenty of shot clock to work with.
I for one thought Pop would look to get LMA more 3pt looks, but maybe it'll come as he continues to develop through the season. No reason to think he can't at least put up a 33-35% clip from there like he did last season, and this would involve cleaner looks. He, Parker and Leonard are three of the best midrange shooters in the league right now, though, so no reason to eliminate completely from your offense. We saw what happened to Houston - you have to run them off 3pt line and it turns their offense into disarray (they didn't shoot well even against Spurs despite the win).
Would love to see his or another guy's take on LMA being active on the offensive boards. Could be a function of the system that puts his man out of position on the glass. He's been tops in the league this year on putback PPP.
The mantra for this season is "Efficiency is in the eye of the beholder." A LMA open two off an assist is a high-efficiency shot, as is pretty much anything Leonard does.
That's very obviously still the case.The offense needs to be dynamic enough that even if it is read correctly by the defender that the Spurs have an alternative option.
The high-low is great because it discourages teams from trying to front the post to make up for their lack of size. It's pretty much the play-action pass of post play. The most important thing to making it work is the reverse seal by the low man and the high man having a passing lane. It's probably less dependent on timing than, say, a PnR or PnP.The high-low action is great because it is a high percentage shot. However, it is kind of like a football touch down play that requires a good pass, good timing and it not being intercepted.
That really depends on how you're defining "post shots". If you mean LMA taking a 20-foot fadeaway with a guy in his jersey, then obviously. If you mean an up-and-under layup through contact, then it's not obvious at all. LMA is still learning when to shoot and when to pass. Once he gets back into his Portland aggressive mindset when he has the ball, he'll be taking almost no contested jumpers.The contested post shots are a low percentage shot. You can just look at LMA's numbers and honestly a defending team should give it to him everytime.
First response is to lol at your attempt to act like that statement isn't obvious to everyone. Second response is to say that it depends on who's shooting. A Kawhi midrange shot is more efficient than a Duncan three. As far as rebounding goes, you're correct that teams have a better chance at rebounding their own long misses. But they also have a better chance at giving up transition buckets. The Spurs value transition D over O-boards. I don't think it's a question on which length of rebounds they prefer.I prefer however the open 3 point shot over the mid-range.
I agree that for those reasons LMA is a better option than Parker/Kawhi, I just think that relying on him in that way limits the offense. I know they can't go back to the offense of Finals 2014, but I think the offense, as it is currently constructed, has a much lower ceiling than we originally anticipated.
I meant to say mid-range contested jumpers.
I meant to hint that LMA taking the open 3 point shot vs taking an open 2 point shot. The other poster (cjw) picked up on my intention.
Well, let's put it this way: If Green makes one more three per game (would still be below last season's average), the Spurs would go from 12th in PPG to 3rd. The team's not that far away from being an elite offense even with Danny struggling.
Last edited by Chinook; 12-28-2015 at 11:25 AM.
I will agree that the current offense by the starting lineup is performing below expectations.
The 2nd team is doing very well despite losing Belinelli and Baynes.
Many teams have won with a wing player as their best player. Kawhi is our best bet. Haven't had a top 2 player in the league since prime Duncan.
Kawhi isn't even in his prime yet. Like not even close. We got 8 years of prime Kawhi in the next couple of years. Lets make the best system early. Dumb to make one around LMA and then change it later when he gets old.
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