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    Newton has always been one of the least effective regular starters, at least when it comes to passing. He has a career completion percentage of 59.2% and he's worked with Steve Smith, Olsen, LaFell, Benjamin, Ginn, two of the better running backs in the league, and even Gary Barnidge!
    Newton has 33 touchdown passes in large part because he faced the Saints twice (seven touchdowns) and the Giants (he threw five touchdowns against New York, a defense that gave up seven to Drew Brees in one game.) That's 12 touchdowns in three games to some horrible pass defenses.
    Again an example of overvaluing "Wins" as a statistic, people are acting like Newton's loss to the Falcons last week was his first slip-up of the season. Not what he did against the Jaguars (71.3 rating), Texans (71.3 rating), Seahawks (65.6 rating), Eagles (59.2 rating), Colts (76.8 rating), or Cowboys (79 rating.)

    Newton has seven games this season with a passer rating under 80, which is tied for the most in the NFL with Teddy Bridgewater and Nick Foles. What's that I hear in the background just now? "MVP!" chants for Bridgewater?
    For those unfamiliar with DYAR, it means Defense-adjusted Yards Above Replacement. Take a look at all the plays a QB has made during the season, adjust for the defense he's facing, compare it to what a replacement-level quarterback would do in the same situation, and you've got DYAR. Palmer is first with 1,636 DYAR. Brady is second at 1,315. Andy Dalton is third at 1,088. Wilson is fourth at 1,070.Newton has 427. He's behind guys like Kirk Cousins, Cutler, Matthew Stafford, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Derek Carr, Alex Smith, and Tyrod Taylor.
    http://www.fieldgulls.com/2016/1/2/1...-tom-brady-too

    Newton is TRASH.

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    Aren't the Panthers like in the bottom five of SOS?

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    Aren't the Panthers like in the bottom five of SOS?
    AFC South/NFC East schedule

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    Clipper Nation, how far will Newton take the Panthers in the playoffs, well?

    And, tell us all again about how Russell Wilson is GARBAGE. Little man, bipolar?

    This is the greatest first 4 seasons by any QB in NFL history. Look at that QB rating. We'll ignore his over 2,000 yards rushing.

    The guy has never missed a game and has played in more games than anyone.

    2015 Seattle Seahawks 16 16 329 483 68.1 4,024 8.3 34 8 45 265 110.1 103 553 5.4 1 7 3
    2014 Seattle Seahawks 16 16 285 452 63.1 3,475 7.7 20 7 42 242 95.0 118 849 7.2 6 11
    2013 Seattle Seahawks 16 16 257 407 63.1 3,357 8.2 26 9 44 272 101.2 96 539 5.6 1 10 5
    2012 Seattle Seahawks 16 16 252 393 64.1 3,118 7.9 26 10 33 203 100.0 94 489 5.2 4 6 3
    TOTAL 1,123 1,735 64.7 13,974 8.1 106 34 164 982 101.8 411 2,430 5.9 12 34 11
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    Why doesn't anyone here actually take a few minutes and Google things? If ya did you'd see tht Newton's five season career is on par with most the great QB's with his running ability better than any of them. And don't be a fool and think that isn't important.

    To read you guys who obviously never do any homework at all, sheesh~~~~~~~

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    Why doesn't anyone here actually take a few minutes and Google things?
    Because our personal lives don't consist of raping 8 year old girls then posting lists on a sports forum.

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    Because our personal lives don't consist of raping 8 year old girls then posting lists on a sports forum.
    Dude, so those bars hired....8 year old girls...to hustle drinks, when the drinking age was 18? Just how damn stupid are you?

    Elevate your game slick, ok?

    If I started right now it would take me less than 5 minutes to know where Newton stood vs Joe Montana at the same stage of their careers. Why don't you people actually bone up on this stuff just a little bit? Ya look ignorant most the time.

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    This dumbass mother er can't even troll fans either



    This pussy professional athlete who works out for a living couldn't even tug away a jersey from some puny kid holding on with one hand without humiliating himself

    He's taking this picking on rival fans at home to a stupid level. He pulled the home stadium rulebook card the last time fans brought a rival banner, but I'm sure Carolina doesn't have a rule in their book for fans bringing in rival jerseys

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    I couldn't care less about what any athletes does away from the field, track, ring, court. Why would I?

    All that matters is are they ready come time to perform.

    Cam Newton is without question the most entertaining QB today, and I'm talking about his on field antics. He's like a big kid with the NFL his playground.

    While I don't see him as an all time great he is among the elite right now.

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    like yall wouldn't act the same way or worse if yall were him

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    Going to be funny when we hear.....

    Cam Newton the 2015 NFL MVP.

    How many things can this Clipper Nation freak be wrong about?

    Newton is overrated....he wins the MVP.

    Struggle Wilson is GARBAGE.....he sets NFL passing records.

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    Going to be funny when we hear.....

    Cam Newton the 2015 NFL MVP.

    How many things can this Clipper Nation freak be wrong about?

    Newton is overrated....he wins the MVP.

    Struggle Wilson is GARBAGE.....he sets NFL passing records.
    huh?

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    Cam got first team all-pro

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    Most TD's/fewest INT's in a five week span in NFL history.

    While this isn't just passing.

    The only NFL QB to ever pass for over 4000 yards, throw for 30 (34) td and rush for over 500 yards.

    He is also the only QB in NFL history to have two 100 QB ratings his first two seasons.

    And.,...he has won more games in his 4 season career than any other QB in theirs.

    Not pos ive about this one but what other QB made the playoffs in each of his frst 4 seasons, playing in two SB's?

    And no QB in history has played in more games in their first 4 seasons.
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    Cam got first team all-pro
    The guy had a great season, he deserves all the props.

    Clipper Nation what a joke, ha~~~~~

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    Most TD's/fewest INT's in a five week span in NFL history.

    While this isn't just passing.

    The only NFL QB to ever pass for over 4000 yards, throw for 30 (34) td and rush for over 500 yards.

    He is also the only QB in NFL history to have two 100 QB ratings his first two seasons.

    And.,...he has won more games in his 4 season career than any other QB in theirs.

    Not pos ive about this one but what other QB made the playoffs in each of his frst 4 seasons, playing in two SB's?

    And no QB in history has played in more games in their first 4 seasons.
    that's just some stat you just made up yourself lol..

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    that's just some stat you just made up yourself lol..
    Wanna bet on that? How about 60 days self bannishment, ok?

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    Wanna bet on that? How about 60 days self bannishment, ok?

    I know it's true, but it means nothing. Just like the thing about Edelman being the most efficient qb ever based on the only pass he has ever made.

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    I know it's true, but it means nothing. Just like the thing about Edelman being the most efficient qb ever based on the only pass he has ever made.
    Then why say I just made it up? Let me guess ya ran off to Google and found out it was true, right?

    So the fact he has done things no QB in NFL history has done means nothing? Dude, he's done a slew of things never seen before.

    Why fight it like ya do?

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    Then why say I just made it up? Let me guess ya ran off to Google and found out it was true, right?

    So the fact he has done things no QB in NFL history has done means nothing? Dude, he's done a slew of things never seen before.

    Why fight it like ya do?
    again, if you cherry-pick the sample size, you can create as many records as you want, I'm sure you can find many about rgknee and manziel too. The edelman case is perfect, you can say that he is the best qb ever based on EVERY statistic if you cherry-pick the sample size.

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    again, if you cherry-pick the sample size, you can create as many records as you want, I'm sure you can find many about rgknee and manziel too. The edelman case is perfect, you can say that he is the best qb ever based on EVERY statistic if you cherry-pick the sample size.
    Do me a favor, ok? Pleae read this,......cherry picking?


    110.1 -- Wilson's passer rating, which was tops in the league for the entire season. When you shrink the numbers down to the seven-game stretch from Week 11 to Week 17, his rating was 132.8. It was during this time that the Seahawks lost tight end Jimmy Graham and running back Thomas Rawls. They were already playing without Marshawn Lynch, and Sunday against the Cardinals, the Seahawks had backups in the game at left tackle and right guard. But Wilson completed 71 percent of his passes, averaged 8.78 yards per attempt and threw 24 touchdowns against one interception during the seven-game period. The Seahawks won six of those games. With the season on the line, no quarterback in the NFL was better.


    118.6 -- Wilson's passer rating on throws from inside the pocket. Not only was that the top mark among this year's group, but no quarterback in the past three seasons has posted a higher number. Wilson completed 72.8 percent of his passes, averaged 8.75 yards per attempt and tossed 31 touchdowns against seven interceptions when he stayed in the pocket. Since Week 11, the numbers are 77.8 percent, 9.90 YPA, 22 touchdowns and one interception. That equates to a passer rating of 145.1. Regardless of what happens in the playoffs, this will be one of the most important things to come out of the 2015 season for the Seahawks. When Wilson has time to sit back in the pocket, he can pick defenses apart. He's shown that ability in the past, but never at such a high level, and it's made the Seahawks extremely tough to defend. If opponents want to try to stay disciplined with their pass rushes and not allow Wilson to scramble, he's perfectly content to hang tight, survey the field and deliver on-target all game long.


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    The number of quarterbacks in NFL history that have thrown for at least 4,000 yards and 30 touchdowns, while also running for 500 or more yards. Wilson is alone in this club, according to ESPN Stats & Information. The rushing yards tend to get overlooked at this point, but only Carolina's Cam Newton and Buffalo's Tyrod Taylor had more among this year's quarterbacks. Wilson can beat teams in a number of ways: the quick passing game, bootlegs, shot plays and running it. Most importantly, he's been smart about when to use his legs. Of his 553 rushing yards, 466 were before contact. Wilson has shown he knows when to take off, when to get down, when to get out of bounds and when to fight for extra yardage. He has not missed a game or even a practice in four NFL seasons due to injury.


    80.4 --
    Wilson's completion percentage when targeting wide receiver Doug Baldwin. According to ESPN Stats & Information, no other quarterback/wide receiver combination has posted a higher number in the last 10 years. Since Week 10, when Wilson has targeted Baldwin, he's completed 47 of 59 passes (79.7 percent) for 724 yards (12.27 YPA), 12 touchdowns and one interception. That equates to a passer rating of 150.3. Baldwin has gotten more opportunities and made the most of them. He became the only player in the last 15 years to post a 1,000-yard season while catching at least 80 percent of his targets. Overall, Baldwin finished with 78 catches for 1,069 yards and 14 touchdowns (tied for tops in the NFL).



    79.0 --
    Wilson's completion percentage on third down since Week 11. That was the top mark in the league over that span, as was his 144.7 passer rating. Seahawks coaches are obsessed with third down -- both on offense and defense. In the first 10 weeks, Wilson was completing 56.5 percent of his third-down passes (21st), and the Seahawks were struggling to extend drives. But down the stretch, the protection has been better, Wilson has had more options, and his decision-making has been outstanding. One key has been how quickly he's been getting rid of the ball on third down. Before Week 11, Wilson was taking 2.77 seconds before passing, fourth-longest. But since then, that number is down to 2.36, fourth-fastest. Overall, the Seahawks converted 46.5 percent of their third downs, fourth-best in the NFL and their top mark since Pete Carroll became the head coach. Since Week 11, they've converted 59.4 percent, tops in the league.

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    What does this guy have to do?

    Most wins.
    Most starts
    NFL firsts
    3 pro bowls
    9 playoff games at least

    Who did it better with the same NFL experience.....well?
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    I know it's true, but it means nothing. Just like the thing about Edelman being the most efficient qb ever based on the only pass he has ever made.
    LOL. Yeah...that's ed up. I always use the qualifier, "quarterback" when using passer rating stats. Ryan Nassib is the clear leading QB this season.

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    All you....Russel Wilson boo! boo! boo!...are looking re ed. The guy is am amazing QB and he's only going to get better. I know I know, being rookies and not getiing it you are waiting for him to screw up, so ya can...SEE SEE HE SUCKS....typical rookie, totally ignoring the fact this is a young guy who will make you look stupid down the road, yep, just like he's doing right now.

    Why fight it?

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    Newton named he and his girlfriends newborn son "Chosen"?
    wtf

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    Newton named he and his girlfriends newborn son "Chosen"?
    wtf
    Well at least they didn't name him....Fig.

    Some of my fav black names.

    I-Perfection Harris
    Handsome Wearing
    Adonis Stone
    Hiawatha Francisco
    Fair Hooker
    Peerless Price
    Ivory Crockett
    Elvis Pea
    Sultan McCullough
    Usian Bolt
    Mozelle Ellerbe
    X.L. Emerson
    Smith Reed
    Savante Stringfellow
    Elijah Jefferson
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    Cyril Pinder
    Orenthal James Simpson
    MacKinley Dillingham

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