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Only 14th? And when did Argentina play European Championship?
In my opinion, Nash and Manu should be in the top 10.
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The 2005-06 NBA season is coming upon us full speed.
A brand new minor-league system is now in place with the D-League.
A new crop of rookies will be unveiled, starring the No. 1 pick overall Andrew Bogut in Milwaukee.
Then there are the defending champion San Antonio Spurs, having added Michael Finley and Nick Van Exel, attempting to win their fourth NBA le in eight years.
And if they do, it all begins with superstar power forward Tim Duncan, who after spending time spanning some of the NBA finest minds, is No. 1 on the list of the top 50 players in the NBA.
For Duncan, 29, this was a major step not only because they won their third le, but the first one A.D. ... that would be after David Robinson retired.
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But it did happen without the much-anticipated confrontation with Shaquille O'Neal and the Miami Heat, who lost in the seventh game of the Eastern Conference finals to the Detroit Pistons.
O'Neal, although aging and injury-prone, remains the most dominant force when he is healthy and playing. The possibility still looms for the Heat and Spurs to decide the championship come June — particularly with the emergence of O'Neal's new sidekick, third-year guard Dwyane Wade.
There are plenty of other players and teams that will make an impact on this season, with perennials like Kevin Garnett in Minnesota; O'Neal's former teammate with the Los Angeles Lakers, Kobe Bryant; the preeminent little man in the game — Allen Iverson in Philadelphia; Tracy McGrady helping drive the Houston Rockets back into contention; and Dirk Nowitzki still at the heart of the Dallas Mavericks and scoring seemingly at will.
But that's just the start. With defending regular season MVP Steve Nash driving Amare Stoudemire into supers om in Phoenix, and LeBron James still knock, knock, knocking on playoffs' door in Cleveland, there are a plethora of young players on the verge of changing the face of the NBA.
So without further adieu, while considering winning, leadership and productivity as the primary focus of the criteria, let's begin with Duncan and Shaq and K.G. and break down the top 50 players going into the new season.
1. Tim Duncan, San Antonio Spurs: The big fundamental now has three les and three Finals MVP trophies in his case, proving to be the best cornerstone in the game.
2. Shaquille O'Neal, Miami Heat: We'll see if Shaq can slow the breaking down in his body long enough to be effective late in the season and get it up to full blast by the playoffs.
3. Kevin Garnett, Minnesota Timberwolves: Bad chemistry and a puffy knee didn't prevent him from becoming the first player in history to average at least 20 points, 10 rebounds and five assists for six consecutive years.
4. Kobe Bryant, Los Angeles Lakers: With Chief Triangle back at coach, plenty of time to get healthy and a few more pieces to the puzzle, Bryant should be back in the playoffs and regaining All-NBA status again.
5. Dwyane Wade, Miami Heat: Shaq's partner is already proving to be an extraordinary clutch player, a winner and a humble guy to boot. He's a rare combination of talent and substance in a young superstar today.
6. Allen Iverson, Philadelphia 76ers: Should Maurice Cheeks allow him to stay at point guard, Fearless Fly has a chance to join Nate Archibald as the only players in history to lead the league in scoring and assists.
7. Tracy McGrady, Houston Rockets: His postseason play was exceptional despite the inability to get out of the first round again. Still, T-Mac's growth was obvious to all who watched the Rockets and he'll get better.
8. Dirk Nowitzki, Dallas Mavericks: He struggled in the postseason, but as the team keeps being restructured from players to coaches, he remains productive. It's still hard to believe a 7-footer can run and shoot like he does.
Will LeBron James lead the Cavaliers to the playoffs this season? (David Liam Kyle / Getty Images)
9. LeBron James, Cleveland Cavaliers: His numbers — 27.2 pts., 7.4 rebounds and 7.2 assists — rank with the best of all time and his game keeps improving. But to be the best, he has to find a way into the playoffs.
10. Amare Stoudemire, Phoenix Suns: If his postseason performance was any indication of what is to come, he will be a first team All-NBA player within a year or two and dominate the interior of every game.
11. Steve Nash, Phoenix Suns: Last season's MVP had a lot to do with Stoudemire's advancement, and everything to do with the Suns getting to the final four. The big question is how much he has left for this season.
12. Ray Allen, Seattle SuperSonics: His leadership and clutch shooting in the fourth quarter catapulted the Sonics out of nowhere into scaring the Spurs to death in the conference semifinals. He deserved every penny he got.
13. Jermaine O'Neal, Indiana Pacers: O'Neal had a really tough season for a lot of reasons, but the bigger concern has been the injuries taking a toll on him two years in a row. Is it the exception or the rule?
14. Manu Ginobili, San Antonio Spurs: Nobody has won more significant championships around the world in recent years than Ginobili with two NBA les, a European championship and an Olympic gold medal.
15. Yao Ming, Houston Rockets: He is so much better than all the criticism makes him out to be, it's ridiculous. He's 7-6, 300 pounds, very skilled and only 25 years old. In case nobody noticed, he keeps getting better.
16. Vince Carter, New Jersey Nets: Getting traded to the Nets was a god-send to both Carter and the Nets. He was fabulous at the end of last season and has a chance to regain the lost status of the past three years.
17. Andrei Kirilenko, Utah Jazz: An injury-plagued season crushed the Jazz, but he is the best full-court defensive player in the game and a vastly improving all-around offensive player.
18. Chauncey Billups, Detroit Pistons: He was so good down the stretch the past two seasons for the two-time Eastern Conference champs ... it will be real interesting to see how he responds being back with coach Flip Saunders.
19. Baron Davis, Golden State Warriors: The Warriors exploded down the stretch after they acquired B.D. and many believe they have a legitimate shot at making the playoffs this season. If he's trim and healthy, it's legit.
20. Paul Pierce, Boston Celtics: He's easily a top-10 talent, maybe top-five, but every year the chips seem to multiply on his shoulder. It detracts not only from his game, but really hurts the Celtics in the long run.
21. Jason Kidd, New Jersey Nets: He responded better than most from micro-fracture surgery last season. A year later, he now has both Carter and Richard Jefferson, and they should be back in the Atlantic Division driver's seat.
22. Ben Wallace, Detroit Pistons: The most undersized center in the game also has the biggest heart. He's been the best defensive player in the game the past three years and his offensive game improved immensely last season.
23. Shawn Marion, Phoenix Suns: Despite a nightmarish conference finals performance, he gets to move back to his natural small forward spot and will undoubtedly play at an All-Star level again.
24. Richard Hamilton, Detroit Pistons: Rip is destined to be this generation's Reggie Miller, without the range or at ude. Relentlessly running and hitting clutch jumpers, he's one of the best mid-range shooters in the game.
25. Elton Brand, Los Angeles Clippers: Just like the constantly disrespected Clippers, Brand is light years better than anyone recognizes. His long arms, wide body and great hands make him a perennial shot at 20 and 10.
26. Steve Francis, Orlando Magic: He had a great start to last season, but he reverted back to over-dribbling and bad shots. When his head catches up to his talent, he'll be a perennial All-Star instead of a target for detractors.
27. Rasheed Wallace, Detroit Pistons: Sheed's numbers don't reflect how much he does for this team, but when he didn't score in the playoffs they didn't win. For them to challenge again, he'll have to score more consistently. Can he?
28. Michael Redd, Milwaukee Bucks: He has developed himself into one of the preeminent scorers in the game and one of the very best long-range shooters. The next step is to develop everything else and win.
29. Chris Webber, Philadelphia 76ers: It's wrong to have him ranked this low, but how do you gauge where he is physically and mentally? As SNL fave Roseanne Roseannadanna used to say, "It just goes to show, it's always something."
30. Gilbert Arenas, Washington Wizards: Having led the Wizards into the second round of the playoffs, he is on the verge of making the leap into supers om. He just has to figure out when to pass and when to shoot.
31. Richard Jefferson, New Jersey Nets: If his toughness was ever questioned before, it isn't now the way he fought back from a horrid wrist injury to be productive in the playoffs. This should be a great season for him.
32. Zydrunas Ilgauskas, Cleveland Cavaliers: Z has been one of the most consistent low-post scorers in the game the past two seasons, with great hands and touch. But he's got to improve defensively and on the boards.
33. Antawn Jamison, Washington Wizards: Acquiring Jamison was the move by Ernie Grunfeld that put the Wiz into the postseason, now we'll see if he can make the transition back to power forward with this summer's moves.
Ron Artest is a top-10 talent, but his other issues knock him further down this list. (Steve Babineau / Getty Images)
34. Ron Artest, Indiana Pacers: A top-10 talent, we'll see how Artest responds to a season in purgatory after his role in the infamous brawl in Detroit. If he's right and focused, the Pacers are a good bet to win the East.
35. Mike Bibby, Sacramento Kings: Bibby isn't blessed with exceptional athleticism like so many other point guards, but he's so clever, a great shooter and his calm demeanor belies his compe ive spirit.
36. Zach Randolph, Portland Trail Blazers: He had a bad knee, serious surgery, and he still almost had another 20-and-10 season on a team that was completely turned over. Presumably, he'll be back to scoring and rebounding at will.
37. Peja Stojakovic, Sacramento Kings: The rap was he didn't work last summer and lost his edge. One of the best pure shooters in the game, now that Webber's gone perhaps he'll regain his fire and become an All-Star again.
38 Carlos Boozer, Utah Jazz: After shocking the world by blowing off the Cavaliers for big money, there were issues with coach Jerry Sloan. Then he got hurt and plenty of trade rumors followed. This season will prove a lot about who he is.
39. Brad Miller, Sacramento Kings: As always, Miller proves to be better in all phases of the game than anyone wants to believe. Then he gets hurt late in the year and struggles down the stretch. The tendency has become an annual fact.
40. Rashard Lewis, Seattle SuperSonics: Lewis was at the heart of the Sonics' early success, but he broke down physically as the season progressed and didn't play the final three games in the second round. It left questions for everybody.
41. Stephon Marbury, New York Knicks: His claim to be the best point guard in the game last season proved he's still lost. With Larry Brown as his new coach, he may be moved to shooting guard. The disease of me still dominates his game.
42. Tony Parker, San Antonio Spurs: Hard to believe he's still only 23, but his shaky confidence early and late in the season leaves questions about how good he can be. And yet, he's so quick on that floater, it's as if he's on skates.
43. Lamar Odom, Los Angeles Lakers: Odom will be the barometer of how far the Lakers will go, as he takes over the point forward role in the triangle offense. He's an All-Star caliber player waiting to explode for new coach Phil Jackson.
44. Kirk Hinrich, Chicago Bulls: A younger, more athletic version of Jeff Hornacek, he led the Bulls into the playoffs and continues to blossom as their floor leader and an excellent scorer going to the basket all the way out to 3-point range
45. Carmelo Anthony, Denver Nuggets: He overcame the nightmare that was last summer and the start of last season to get back on track toward what was considered inevitable s om. This is the season he should become a star.
46. Chris Bosh, Toronto Raptors: Playing on that horrible team, which is in constant transition, is no easy task, but not only is Bosh and exceptional talent, he's exceedingly bright and clever. He'll be great for a long time.
47. Joe Johnson, Atlanta Hawks: Acquired in the most publicized trade of the summer that caused an ownership change in Atlanta, Johnson is a brilliantly talented player, but now has to show he has leadership qualities too.
48. Jason Richardson, Golden State Warriors: Running with Baron Davis lifted his game up to his naturally immense skills, even though he wasn't healthy. They are as explosive as any backcourt duo in the game.
49. Pau Gasol, Memphis Grizzlies: He has yet to play up to expectations, not to mention the maximum contract he signed last summer. His superlative international finesse game has yet to translate into the NBA the way they hoped. Will it ever?
50. Marcus Camby, Denver Nuggets: Once you get past how injury-prone he has been, consider he's averaged 9.5 points, 10.3 rebounds and 2.8 blocks as the one constant who has led the Nuggets into the playoffs the past two seasons.
Also receiving consideration were:
Kenyon Martin and Andre Miller, Denver Nuggets; Emeka Okafor, Charlotte Bobcats; Ben Gordon and Tyson Chandler, Chicago Bulls; Tayshaun Prince, Detroit Pistons; Corey Maggette, Los Angeles Clippers; Antoine Walker, Miami Heat; Jalen Rose, Toronto Raptors; Larry Hughes, Cleveland Cavaliers.
Only 14th? And when did Argentina play European Championship?
In my opinion, Nash and Manu should be in the top 10.
YEAH!!
where's that Artest gtor now???
We have 4 in the top 27, no one else had more than 2 that high, that's good to see.
18. Chauncey Billups, Detroit Pistons: He was so good down the stretch the past two seasons for the two-time Eastern Conference champs ... it will be real interesting to see how he responds being back with coach Flip Saunders.
22. Ben Wallace, Detroit Pistons: The most undersized center in the game also has the biggest heart. He's been the best defensive player in the game the past three years and his offensive game improved immensely last season.
24. Richard Hamilton, Detroit Pistons: Rip is destined to be this generation's Reggie Miller, without the range or at ude. Relentlessly running and hitting clutch jumpers, he's one of the best mid-range shooters in the game.
27. Rasheed Wallace, Detroit Pistons: Sheed's numbers don't reflect how much he does for this team, but when he didn't score in the playoffs they didn't win. For them to challenge again, he'll have to score more consistently. Can he?
Ray Allen, Seattle SuperSonics: His leadership and clutch shooting in the fourth quarter catapulted the Sonics out of nowhere into scaring the Spurs to death in the conference semifinals. He deserved every penny he got.
haha,,we must have been watching the wrong sereis,,and Ginobilli higher than YAO OMG.
If Larry Hughes was a first-team All-Defense(*), how did he not rate in the top 50 given all his other stats?
Peja got badly exposed last year.
(*)he wasn't, really, but for the sake of argument
the only thing scary about Seattle was Jerome James face
I know what he's talking about, but he should be more careful picking his words. He should've said Euroleague champion or maybe european club champion. By the way...it was Kinder Bologna, not Benetton Treviso.
The1. Tim Duncan, San Antonio Spurs: The big fundamental now has three les and three Finals MVP trophies in his case, proving to be the best cornerstone in the game.of the NBA.
14. Manu Ginobili, San Antonio Spurs: Nobody has won more significant championships around the world in recent years than Ginobili with two NBA les, a European championship and an Olympic gold medal.
am not saying that Manu is not good or even better than Yao but laughing at all those wh calls manu Underated and Yao the best in the league.
Understandably since the Pistons aren't dominated by a superstar and instead focus on a balanced attack and suffocating defense... at least, suffocating defense until this season. We'll see what Flip does.We have 4 in the top 27, no one else had more than 2 that high, that's good to see.
18. Chauncey Billups, Detroit Pistons: He was so good down the stretch the past two seasons for the two-time Eastern Conference champs ... it will be real interesting to see how he responds being back with coach Flip Saunders.
22. Ben Wallace, Detroit Pistons: The most undersized center in the game also has the biggest heart. He's been the best defensive player in the game the past three years and his offensive game improved immensely last season.
24. Richard Hamilton, Detroit Pistons: Rip is destined to be this generation's Reggie Miller, without the range or at ude. Relentlessly running and hitting clutch jumpers, he's one of the best mid-range shooters in the game.
27. Rasheed Wallace, Detroit Pistons: Sheed's numbers don't reflect how much he does for this team, but when he didn't score in the playoffs they didn't win. For them to challenge again, he'll have to score more consistently. Can he?
Without bothering about the ranking, I think at least this is quite fair comment regarding Yao.Yao Ming, Houston Rockets: He is so much better than all the criticism makes him out to be, it's ridiculous. He's 7-6, 300 pounds, very skilled and only 25 years old. In case nobody noticed, he keeps getting better.
P.S. I do agree that Yao at present can't be compared to Duncan or Manu.
Dwayne Wade is seriously overrated. And LeBron is knocked down for not being in the playoffs but KG is number 3? Puhleez.
Wow. And San Antonio still doesnt get the respect they deserve. EVEN after beating a team like Detroit in the Finals.We have 4 in the top 27, no one else had more than 2 that high, that's good to see.
18. Chauncey Billups, Detroit Pistons: He was so good down the stretch the past two seasons for the two-time Eastern Conference champs ... it will be real interesting to see how he responds being back with coach Flip Saunders.
22. Ben Wallace, Detroit Pistons: The most undersized center in the game also has the biggest heart. He's been the best defensive player in the game the past three years and his offensive game improved immensely last season.
24. Richard Hamilton, Detroit Pistons: Rip is destined to be this generation's Reggie Miller, without the range or at ude. Relentlessly running and hitting clutch jumpers, he's one of the best mid-range shooters in the game.
27. Rasheed Wallace, Detroit Pistons: Sheed's numbers don't reflect how much he does for this team, but when he didn't score in the playoffs they didn't win. For them to challenge again, he'll have to score more consistently. Can he?
gotta disagree. Detroit has some really good talent. Good to see Manu getting the respect he deserves. Guess people starting to realize regular season stats don't mean that much.
The rankings are a joke. He overrates team accomplishments, and underrates individual accomplishments.
Rip, Chauncey, Rasheed - all non-All-Stars for a reason. Off the top of my head I'd say Rip and Chauncey are between numbers 35-45, and Rasheed is between 50-65.
Manu is between 25-30.
On the flip side, O'Neal and Artest are extremely underrated. O'Neal is one of only 3 guys in the league who will get you 20/10/2 blocks on an annual basis. Artest has the best combonation of offense and defense in the league, and he's got solid passing and rebounding skills to boot. I'd say O'Neal is between 7-10, while Artest is between 10-15.
Think these kinds of lists (and rankings) are silly. I never take any of them serious. Who really cares? I don't.
We have 4 in the top 27, no one else had more than 2 that high, that's good to see.
18. Chauncey Billups, Detroit Pistons...
22. Ben Wallace, Detroit Pistons...
24. Richard Hamilton, Detroit Pistons...
27. Rasheed Wallace, Detroit Pistons...
Suns had three in the top-25, Amare #10, Nash #11, Marion #23.
What I mean by "not getting respect" is that people are picking MIA to win it all in 2006, even though SA showed how good they are in the Finals.
wade is rank too high, i put him where lebron is and everyone between them goes up a spot.
I can't speak for others but they certainly have my respect.
They don't have my respect because everyone knows the best team in the NBA last year was the pre-brawl Pacers. If they can beat the Pacers this year, then maybe. Untill then, no.
Artest's best year was 18 ppg 5 rbdpg and 4 apg
Career averages are 14 ppg 5 rpg and 3 apg
He plays an average of 50 games per season and played 7 games last year.
Based on that his ranking of 34th is right where he belongs.
Dude, you are high.
Wade, Nowitzki and Ray Allen ahead of Ginobili?? Not sure how that's justifiable...
This list isn't bad but those three nobodys ahead of Manu is ridiculous. Ginobili is the best player on the Spurs by far, the most clutch and as good as the game's best player (in my opinion), Kobe Bryant.
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