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It's not that Shaq is not giving respect, he's just very good at giving soundbytes. He has a WWE personality.
The problem is when his lapdogs like SAS echo those sentiments as though they are fact.
shaq undermines duncan,
Hey guys this my first post on forum, anyway did anyone see shaq on stephen A.'s quite freakingly? when he was asked by stephen ass about duncan, shaq almost ignorantly said "yeah I'd say he's a great player" and went on to say, aside from him, if a team to pick a player to start to franchise with, it would be Amare. and he said He's only good big man left in league, he also said that not coming Miami is Finley loss,not his.
I don't think shaq gives enough respect to duncan, and thinks Amare is best big man after. I think it's funny, what do you guys think.
It's not that Shaq is not giving respect, he's just very good at giving soundbytes. He has a WWE personality.
The problem is when his lapdogs like SAS echo those sentiments as though they are fact.
I don't care what Shaq, SAS, or anyone in the media has to say abuot the Spurs. Whether it's good or bad....
See, Amare is Shaq's boy and likes to party w/him. Duncan could care less about hanging out or partying w/Snack. Same w/SAS.
In other words, WGAF what Shaq thinks
LOL, how can shaq say its finley's loss not his, when he comes to the defending champs? How about shaq closes his mouth for the first time in his career? He's a little butthurt over Finley choosing duncan over him methinks
Duncan is great, but he's got five great years left.
Amare hasn't even peaked, so barring injury, 10 years isn't unreasonable.
That is why Shaq would choose Amare, not because they are boys or party hardy
Even as early as Amare's rookie year, Shaq claimed Stoudemire was the future of this League. Have you seen anything in the 2-1/2 seasons Amare's played that would discredit that?
It's not necessarily what we've seen as what we haven't seen (defensive ability of any sort).
But I wouldn't put it past him to develop in that area.
Please God don't let Shaq be a TV sports analyst when his playing days are over.
after his career is over Shaq will be so fat that they'd be forced to use WideScreen cameras.
I'll agree to an extent, but 23-year olds rarely play like this kid does. I think he tries to play the best defense he can, without risking silly fouls. He does the Suns no good if he's only on the court for 30 minutes a game like Yao. He blocks the shots he can and muscles up when in position. I think he's too smart to make something when it's not there as the Suns have not had the luxery of a deep frontcourt ever in his time as a Sun. Let's see how he works this year, now that there's some actual depth.
For the next 10 years, Amare or LeBron or Wade?
Since 90% of the NBA Champions have been built around a dominant big man, Amare looks like the winner to me.
I think Amare is a good player,specialy in the offence, so as K.g. but it remains to be seen if any of those guys can carry a team to le. if anyone picking amare or any other player ahead of duncan now, would be because, they envy what duncan has or beign. theres alot of people in this league who try hide the truth.
Shaq very much respects Duncan.
I've never ever heard Shaq trash-talk Duncan on the court or in the media. Shaq trashes everyone he has no respect for(Sac "Queens", Ostertag, others), but I've never heard Shaq badmouth Duncan.
Keep in mind that Miami really thought they were going to get Fin and when Fin decided to go with the Spurs, I think Shaq was a little miffed and rather than disrespect Duncan he probably would rather give more respect to another player.
Don't look too much into it. Shaq respects Duncan so much that Shaq won't even say anything about Duncan because he knows what Duncan is capable of doing.
On the court? Probably Amare, but it's close.For the next 10 years, Amare or LeBron or Wade?
However, if I'm an owner, LeBron is a gold mine.
OK, 3/4 year's with Duncan or 8/10 years with Amare.
You can choose one. Who is it?
Obviously, Duncan is the best player in the League. But his time is running out while Amare's is just gettin' going. It's almost like picking the Late 80's Kareem or Hakeem. One was All-Time great, the other getting there, but the All-Timer was getting older while the potential All-Timer was just gettin' going.
For next year and prolly the year after, it's Duncan. For every year thereafter, I think it's Amare.
Agreed. I've agrued that this pick could depend on the second selection. If I could be guaranteed a low-post big as my second choice, then I'd be willing to pick LeBron for the reasons you've mentioned. He's great, he's famous and I think he transcends all bounds. So long as Thirst McThirst stays at his crib...
I agree with both statements. If I could pick a player as they are today I would pick Amare. He seems to want to learn and even spent time working with duncan at the games to work on his low post play.And yea he is younger and will be around longer. If I could pick a player now based on their current ability without considering how long they could play, I would pick Duncan. I think Duncan has more ability to make the, team better. Amare needs Nash, the Spurs need Duncan big difference.
I don't think Duncan's so old that you don't still go with him. He's a sure thing. With Amare, yeah maybe he's the best player in the NBA in 5 years, but maybe he's not. Maybe he's Shawn Kemp. Maybe he's Brad Daugherty.
Shaq vs. Amare? Yeah, Amare. But Duncan is a better bet to win in the next 3-5 years than Amare is to win in years 6-10, simply because of how uncertain the future is.
but I wonder how he will be without a nash type? pretty good! but will it be enough?
I just don't think there's any comparison between those you named and Amare. He's Hakeem incarnate. He's essentually just played out his college years at the pro level and dominated. He's got a few areas to improve, but so far, every weakness he's had he's worked on drastically.
As I said, Duncan is the better player. He could be the better player for as long as four more years. But he's getting up there in years. Do you really think a 34/35 year old Duncan will be better than a 27/28 year old Amare?
At his peak, I see MVP's, 30points, 12rebounds per averages and at least 1 le, though at this point, I'm no longer certain that will be with Phoenix.
The Kareem/Hakeem thing is utter b.s.
In the late 80's, Kareem was in his late 30's while Hakeem was in his late 20's. There was a 10 year difference between those two, and one had gone through a full career that spanned all of 2 decades while the other was just getting started.
In 2005, Duncan is what 28? Amare is 23. There's 5 years of difference. If Amare has 10 years of greatness in front of him, then it should be fair to assume that Tim has at least 5 more years in front of him. That's a full half of Amare's "arc of greatness." It's not as if Tim's on his last legs and is struggling to keep up with younger players these days.
It's not about numbers, either. If Amare played in the Spurs system, I seriously doubt that he'd have the type of scoring numbers that he rolled up in Phoenix last season. And he certainly is nowhere near the rebounder or defensive force that Duncan is. Amare is a wonderful talent and should be a perrenial all-star, but I don't know that there's a clear cut case that he's a better choice over the next 5 years or so.
I don't care what Shaq says about anything when he's talking to SAS. That's all showbiz.
Duncan is not 28... He'll be 30 come playoff time.
You can not like the comparison, but the point remains the same.
Choose Hakeem vs. Shaq if you'd like. It's not the details, it's the notion.
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Yeah, Duncan will probably retire before Amare. If that's the point upon which you decide to choose Amare over Duncan, so be it.
But comparing Duncan after 8 years to Amare after what 3 years isn't the same as comparing Kareem after 15-16 years to Hakeem after 3-4 or comparing Hakeem after 10-12 years with Shaq after 3-4.
And so help me... I believe I said Duncan up to the next four seasons, Amare after that.
For me, however, I see Amare surpassing Duncan within three years tops.
Yeah, in a few years he will come to SA to replace the retiring Tim Duncan.
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