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If I'm the Suns, Amare is the only indespensable player.
sorry Laketurds
Stoudemire says extension should be done soon
By Jerry Brown, Tribune
September 22, 2005
Back in the Valley working out to prepare for the season, Amaré Stoudemire said he will sign a five-year, $72.6 million contract extension with the Phoenix Suns before the team begins training camp on Oct. 4.
“The Suns deal should be done here pretty soon,'' Stoudemire said. “We're just going over the paperwork and we should finish it here shortly.''
Stoudemire's deal will look very much like the maximum extension signed by Houston center Yao Ming — the No. 1 pick of the 2002 NBA draft — this summer. After making $2.59 million this season and completing his rookie contract, Stoudemire's contract will soar to $12 million in 2006-07 and he will earn an annual raise of $1.26 million — the maximum allowed by the NBA's new collective bargaining agreement — in each of the next four seasons, ending with a $17.04 million deal in 2010-11.
It was not immediately known if the new deal has an “out-clause'' that would allow Stoudemire to void the deal after three seasons (following the 2008-09 season), but Suns chairman Jerry Colangelo has said most maximum contract extensions do include such clauses.
Stoudemire said he is pleased with the changes the Suns have made in the offseason, and that the additions would make up for the losses of major contributors like Joe Johnson, Quentin Richardson and Steven Hunter,
“I'm very impressed with guys like Kurt Thomas, Brian Grant and Raja Bell and the other additions,'' he said. “I think we can be better. We'll be much better defensively, and we still have our offensive game. I've been working on my perimeter game, trying to become an all-around basketball player. That's my goal.''
WEALTHY TO THE MAX
Here is how the five-year, $72.6 million contract extension for Amaré Stoudemire — almost identical to the one signed by Houston's Yao Ming earlier this summer — breaks down, after Stoudemire completes his rookie contract by earning $2.6 million this season:
Year Salary
2006-07 $12 million
2007-08 $13.26 million
2008-09 $$14.52 million
2009-10 $15.78 million
2010-2011 $17.040 million
http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/index.php?sty=48740
If I'm the Suns, Amare is the only indespensable player.
Now, what are the lakers gonna do? they can't sign yao or amare.
With that moron owner in Cleveland, the Lakers might actually get him. The Lakers have no chance of assembling young talent without Logo, so they might as well poach free agents.
It's good news. There's still the issue of the fourth-year opt-out clause, but that's several years down the road and two years after the Lakers blow their load.
Also, he and Nike are close to a contract for around $80 million dollars, the largest sum ever given to a big man. So much for endorsments being hard to come by in Phoenix.
true... true...
Where are all of the media types claiming thumping the Faker drums about who they were supposed to get?
Amare should go to the lakers.
Why? Let's think about things.
He's already signed for the largest ever shoe deal for a big-man and Phoenix can offer him more money, so this shouldn't be in the Lakers favor...
They have a cache of 1st-round picks over the next four years (six picks total) and an assortment of 2nd-rounders (seven total) and have shown repeatedly that they are a top-5 NBA drafting team (Finley, Nash, Marion, Amare, Person...) They have lots of young talent and could potentially have CAP space (Suns hold the option on Nash's final season) the summer he's set to opt out, so with the players kept, the draft picks and the financial flexability, the Suns seem the best fit.
Also, Amare adores Shaq. Shaq adores Amare. Shaq hates the Lakers and Kobe Bryant. So, why would Amare dis Shaq and risk a great friendship to go to LA and help them and Kobe win another le?
Lookin' like Los Angeles isn't the best or brightest fit for Amare afterall.
What is Amare going to do when Steve Nash gets too old to assist him?
It's like when Jason Kidd stacked up RJ, Kittles, and Kenyon Martin's stats, because he always set them up with bad ass dunks or wide open jumpers.
I have been re-watching the Phoenix Series, and seriously, ALL AMARE DOES is either get wide open dunks thanks to Steve Nash, or get the ball really really close to the basket (thanks to steve nash) then jump and hang in the air and flip the ball in.
When Steve goes, its not like Amare's athleticism is still going to increase and increase....
20-9 as a second-year player without Nash.
That was, of course, without the 14-17 foot jumper and baseline up and under move he added this past offseason and obviously doesn't include what he adds this offseason.
Nash gets him easier shots. I won't argue that, but Amare is fully capable of getting his own. He's done it before, with fewer weapons. Please don't tell me you're one of the fools who will deny him credit for his probable improvement. Players that work as hard as Amare typically do get better.
ROFL
Dude he's wide open as for that jumper, (which is not 17 feet, lol you wish) because of nash
and his baseline up and under??? You mean the move where he jumps really high, hangs in the air with his athleticism and flips the ball in the rim?
Yeah, i mentioned that one.
17 foot jumper, rofl
he didn't hit a single mid range jumper games 1 or 2
Oh look, the moron speaks...
It's quite obvious you've seen very little of the kid. I'm not going to get into a spitting contest with a Spurs fan who's vast knowledge of Amare's game comes from one single series of play. As I said elsewhere, I tape every game and I study film as part of my job, so I know what to look for. Just because you've failed to see it, hardly means it doesn't exist.
Fact is, the Spurs let Amare do whatever he wanted in one-on-one situations, so there was very little need to waste time on offense doing anything else but his power spin to the basket. The Spurs rarely double-teamed him, so there was really no need to use his repertoire of moves. Not when the Spurs consistantly let him do his best move.
Your ignorance of his skills baffles me.
Yeah, I guess Amare's screwed because no other PG in the League will help him net open 14-17 foot jumpers. No other guard can create, I guess.
Isn't funny how Nash, who as reguarded as a borderline top-5 PG in the League becomes the unquestioned best alongside Amare? Hmm...
Each's game works perfectly with the others', but I'm quite sure that Amare will do just fine after four years of improvement.
Did i watch every bull suns regular season game? No, you're right.
Did i watch every suns game in the WCF?
Yes
Did Amare hit a jumper from 17 foot in game 1 or 2?
No
re-watch game 2, steve nash plays the ENTIRE game, up until like 8 minutes to go in the FOURTH
When he goes out, Amare scores twice, then is lost for like 3 plays in a row.
He tried to score on like a triple team
I never said amare wasnt the , but this is a classic case of a good player fooling people into thinking he's god, when in fact its another player setting him up (see: bryant, kobe; jefferson, richard; martin, kenyon)
this statement is flawed, because he was questioned...people gave nash so much for being one of the tiest defending point guards around, and the MVP usually plays on BOTH ends of the floorIsn't funny how Nash, who as reguarded as a borderline top-5 PG in the League becomes the unquestioned best alongside Amare?
And he was never a borderline top 5 PG...he was always one of the best...don't try to tell me you watched every mav's game
No, I didn't watch every Mavs or Spurs game, but I've got just about every publication or magazine from the past three years and according to the experts, he was a borderline top-5 PG.
Amare shot over 60% for games 1 & 2. As I said, you gave him down low whenever he wanted it. How many attempts outside of the key did he even have? I know he went 15-18 from the line in game 1, are you telling me that he can't consistantly hit a jumper two feet beyond that?
Oh that's right, of course he can't. Not until you've seen it.
As I said earlier, 20-9 as a second-year out of high school player. All without Nash. Yes, Nash helped, but Amare helped Nash just as much.
And by the way, basing your opinion on Amare from just 5 games is rediculous. Else one would have to think that Marion sucks big time and that Richardson is no better than a 12th-man scrub.
Lakers will never get Lebron.
it shouldn't be ridiculous.. it's the playoffs.
So all of those are facts.
Nothing matters until you get to the playoffs, you and your team need to learn that...and apparently they are one step ahead of you, because they are trying to copy the Spurs team. I believe you should try to observe the better team aswell and learn something for once.
You're missing my point.
You can't make a completely accurate assessment of a player from 4/5 games vs. the same opponant. What said player might do vs. one team, he might not be able to do vs. another. What one player might be able to do vs. most teams, he might not have to do vs. others.
Why is it that so many posters here are obsessed with putting spin on posts.
I didn't say the playoffs weren't important. I didn't say that San Antonio wasn't the best/ better team or that they had nothing to do with said players change in game.
I said that because one person doesn't see something, doesn't mean his ignorance proves it isn't there. Amare regularly hits that 14-17 foot jumper. He now goes off the dribble in both directions and has legit spin moves in front of the basket and along the baseline. Nash doesn't account for all of these. That's the point.
You Spurs fan should get a hold of yourself. No one if trying to copy the Spurs. I dont understand why you guys need to bring down every other team to make yourselves feel good. Suns are a great team, probably if they had a healthy Johnson it would've been a completely different series. Amare is the truth, and he can hit the mid range J. You guys need to give props where they are due, and stop hating and downgrading anyplayer who doesnt play for the Spurs.
John is right, if you're getting your way downlow, why would you go outside to shoot jumpers? Come on faded you're smarter than that.....
First year
13.5 ppg 8.8 rebounds
Second yr
20.6 ppg 9 rebounds
third year
26 ppg 8.9 rebounds
Amare is a very, very good player. If he can bring his subpar defense up to the near the level of his offensw and grab 3 more rebounds a game he'll be a great player. Period.
He's already a great player.
Depends on what you consider great. I consider great those that are great on both ends of the court. I also consider Ben Wallace a very, very good player. When somebody brings up Amare's name as a candidate of the NBA all-defensive team and people aren't rolling on the floor then he'll be great.
"Also, he and Nike are close to a contract for around $80 million dollars, the largest sum ever given to a big man. So much for endorsments being hard to come by in Phoenix."
That is sublime (!) Amare is a great, great talent but has really so far proven nothing except that he can score, albeit when he has the point guard playing the best in the game assisting him. As I have said before, one great block on an injured superstar does not make an all around player!
What if he pulls a Shawn Kemp?
Also, PACER FAN above = props for your team- it made great pickups, it showed heart, it seemingly has helped mature Artert/JO/and perhaps even Stephen Jackson, it cut some salary but remains stacked and is still my odds on favorite to come out of the East and give the Spurs a great final series (albeit with the Spurs winning again).
Thanks for the props. I appreciate it and think we should be able to make some noise this year. Only thing that hurt me other than losing Reg was James Jones. He's gonna be a good player, I wish him all the best in Phoenix.
Now back to the topic. I posted Amares stats BEFORE Nash came to town. Nash raised him 6 in points and took 1 rebound away. Everyone seems to think Nash is the reason he's scoring so much. Amare is the reason he's scoring so much. Why didnt Shawn bradley score 26 points a game with Nash? Or any other center on the Mavs? Its because they dont have the talent that Amare does.....he's doing his thing, and he's only in his 3 yrd, he'll only get better.
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