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    uups stups! Cant_Be_Faded's Avatar
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    It's Monday, september 26th, (yes, september TWENTY SIXTH) and it's still in the triple digits, every day, for extended periods of time. Austin hit record highs BEFORE the 'cane started to affect us. Don't give me any of that "hurricane pushed warmer weather to us" bull , it's been this hot non stop since like May..

    What is it going to take for people to believe Global Warming does exist?

    Will people like joechhehehejaaam still insist global warming is a farse when fall and spring are non-existent here in Texas, and Winter lasts 2 months?
    What will it take for you to finally believe in it? What will you do once you believe it exists?

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    What will it take, for YOU to believe in global warming?
    For Global Warming Threads to stop appearing The Club.


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    uups stups! Cant_Be_Faded's Avatar
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    I didn't put a political spin on it, unless you count the jochehehchejaam comment, so i figure its a general discussion question

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    It's fine .. I was just joking.

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    And last Christmas it ing snowed in South Texas!

    What is it going to take for people to realize that Global Warming can't be proven or disproven based on any 1, 2, or even 3 given days!

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    every scientist on the face of the earth agree

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    every scientist on the face of the earth agree
    On what exactly? Climate Change? You're out of your ing mind.

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    yeah it would never happen
    and some people will never admit the earth is heating up

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    And last Christmas it ing snowed in South Texas!

    What is it going to take for people to realize that Global Warming can't be proven or disproven based on any 1, 2, or even 3 given days!

    I thought one of the effects of global warming was a shorter, more intense winter

    and i was basing it on my personal experience of living in texas my whole life, knowing that 3 summers ago was the hottest summer, until 2 summers ago, until last summer, until this summer

    this summer is lasting longer as well

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    What will it take, for YOU to believe in global warming?


    Scientific proof that it's more than just normal cycles of the Earth. Unfortunately, that will probably take several hundred years minimum to achieve....I'm not expecting to see the conclusion.


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    The effects of Global Warming are certainly not present in day to day tempature highs and lows.

    It has been hot the past few days, and its easily explained in a non global warming fashion. Subsidence from Rita plus a downsloping wind and you get really hot temps.

    Climate Change effects are not present yet. The studies that are taking place all agre e warming, but differ on the reasons why and the rate. What they do agree on as well is that big noticable changes will not happen until closer to the end of this century.

    So, don't use a hot September day to try to prove it because it just doesn't add up.

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    i think it is because of all the energy that is necessary for the production of tin foil for all the hats dan and his buddies are making..

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    I come in Marklar. Marklar MM's Avatar
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    i think it is because of all the energy that is necessary for the production of tin foil for all the hats dan and his buddies are making..
    The aliens are coming.

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    last Christmas south Texas had about 3 inches of snow. If it repeats then is freezing!

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    Well, whatever the the reason it's so hot...I'll just be damn happy when it stops to not be getting anymore $400 CPS bills. For 2 months, anyway.

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    Okay, so then you disagree that CO2 levels are rising, or you disagree that the earth is uncapable of keeping rising CO2 in check?

    You disagree that an exploding car using population in China and India will have any effects on CO2 levels?

    You think that HOLES in the ozone layer, that very level of atmosphere that has kept the majority of humans cancer free for millenia, are appearing now just because of a normal earth cycle?

    Someone said scientific proof....read any case study or paper published in any journal of conservation biology...theres loads of evidence suggesting that humans are effecting every single available habitat and ecosystem on this entire planet. Pristine habitats are nonexistent in today's world. Think about that one for a second.

    Yet we're incapable of altering the atmosphere?

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    What will it take, for YOU to believe in global warming?
    i didn't know that global warming was somekinda "belief".. somethign that requires "faith".
    I've always just accepted the fact of it's exisitance.
    I'm even more convinced on the 22nd of every month when I sit in a dark room crying over my CPS bill.

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    BTW, i never disagree with anyone who says its a normal cycle we're going through. But what I find ridiculous is when those people think what we are doing will have no effect on these cycles, like altering them, shifting them.

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    You're moving from global warming to the entire impact of humans on the environment. Which do you want to discuss?

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    I feel they're tied together. I think humans impact is either causing or accelerating the global warming process.

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    It doesn't take a scientist to realize...err, never mind.

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    BTW, i never disagree with anyone who says its a normal cycle we're going through. But what I find ridiculous is when those people think what we are doing will have no effect on these cycles, like altering them, shifting them.
    Why do you disagree?

    I'm not saying I don't think we can alter the eart, but I'm looking for your reasonsing behind your convictions.

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    Well we have proof CO2 has skyrocketed like no other. We also have a correlation of increasing mean temperature and rising CO2 levels for about a 50 year period. We know car use and other emissions contirbute to CO2. We know that there is one fourth of the human population in an area of the world that is quickly reaching an American standard of life. From studies of Venus, and closed system studies, we know CO2 can cause a greenhouse effect. We know the polar Ice Caps have been steadily decreasing since the 70's. Thats all i can think of at the moment
    Last edited by Cant_Be_Faded; 09-26-2005 at 02:16 PM. Reason: remembered one more

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    I feel they're tied together. I think humans impact is either causing or accelerating the global warming process.
    The point being a hole in the ozone layer has little to no relevance when debating global warming.

    Show me how it supports/disproves something having to do with climate change.

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    Well we have proof CO2 has skyrocketed like no other. We know car use and other emissions contirbute to CO2. We know that there is one fourth of the human population in an area of the world that is quickly reaching an American standard of life. From studies of Venus, and closed system studies, we know CO2 can cause a greenhouse effect. We know the polar Ice Caps have been steadily decreasing since the 70's. Thats all i can think of at the moment
    Is the earth a closed system?

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