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    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016...l?intcmp=hpbt2

    Chelsea Clinton, in an implicit swipe at the impact of President Obama's health care law, recently told voters that many Americans still are facing "crushing costs" from health insurance even under the Affordable Care Act.

    The comments were captured in a video posted this week. In her remarks, Clinton said her mother -- presidential candidate Hillary Clinton -- could use executive action to curb those costs.

    “We can either do that directly or through tax credits. And, kind of figuring out whether she could do that through executive action, or she would need to do that through tax credits working with Congress. She thinks either of those will help solve the challenge of kind of the crushing costs that still exist for too many people who even are part of the Affordable Care Act,” she said in the video, initially flagged by The Weekly Standard.

    The video appears to be from a Hillary Clinton town hall event this past Tuesday at the Advanced Technology Center at Bates Technical College in Tacoma, Wash.

    It's just the latest controversial comment from a member of the Clinton family; former President Bill Clinton lamented the “awful legacy of the last eight years” earlier this week while stumping for his wife, though a spokesman later said he was referring to Republicans during the Obama administration.

    On health care, Hillary Clinton herself has staunchly defended the Affordable Care Act, while saying she would take any steps necessary to fix problems in the system.

    In a January debate, she said, “As president, I'll defend the Affordable Care Act, build on its successes, and go even further to reduce costs. My plan will crack down on drug companies charging excessive prices, slow the growth of out-of-pocket costs, and provide a new credit to those facing high health expenses.”

    In December, Hillary Clinton was asked by a questioner at a town hall event why companies are favoring part-time employment over full-time employment. Clinton responded by saying, “the Affordable Care Act. You know, we got to change that because we have built in some unfortunate incentives that discourage full-time employment.”

    A report from Freedom Partners released earlier this month states that the cost of health care premiums have outgrown both wages and normal inflation, resulting in an average rise of 28 percent from 2009 to 2014.

    “With health care costs still rising faster than inflation six years after passage of the Affordable Care Act, it is clear that the law is not helping lower the burden of health care expenses for American families,” the report states.

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    Bill Kristol pulling out all the stops. The only broken clock that's somehow not right even once a day.

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    Plenty of Democrats still want single payer.

    Non-issue.

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    The law was never designed to control costs. The closest thing to that would have been offering a public option, which Obama let die in the senate.

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    Obama should endorse Sanders. It would end her.

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    ^^ Yep. Repugs made it clear they would pout and filibuster if Barry had tried single payer.
    So he did what he could. Was not any failure on Barrys part.

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    single payer would have made the aca much more worthwhile... a mandate (or according to SCOTUS, a tax) is a pretty underwhelming accomplishment. like i said in an earlier thread, though, the aca's approach to pre-existing conditions was the biggest step forward

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    ^^ Yep. Repugs made it clear they would pout and filibuster if Barry had tried single payer.
    So he did what he could. Was not any failure on Barrys part.
    ACA passed without any republican vote. The logical conclusion to no single payor is that some of the Democrats didn't want it.

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    ^^ Yep. Repugs made it clear they would pout and filibuster if Barry had tried single payer.
    So he did what he could. Was not any failure on Barrys part.
    LOL what? If the Republicans could have they would have filibustered the ACA. Barry couldn't get blue dogs in line in the senate and that's why we had no public option. Obama never wanted Medicare for all like Sanders is proposing, he never even campaigned on it.

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    LOL what? If the Republicans could have they would have filibustered the ACA. Barry couldn't get blue dogs in line in the senate and that's why we had no public option. Obama never wanted Medicare for all like Sanders is proposing, he never even campaigned on it.
    The pre-existing condition and no-limit clauses in the ACA made it worthwhile.....health-care costs were out of control before the ACA...the main problem with the ACA is that it doesn't give the government any pull to negotiate drug prices with pharmaceuticals

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    The pre-existing condition and no-limit clauses in the ACA made it worthwhile.....health-care costs were out of control before the ACA...the main problem with the ACA is that it doesn't give the government any pull to negotiate drug prices with pharmaceuticals
    IMO, the main problem with the ACA is the cost of the 10 essential benefits that every policy must have (regardless of whether you can use those benefits or not) eg. every man's and child's policy covers maternity and newborn care even though they don't use that benefit - this drives the cost of the premiums up.

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    IMO, the main problem with the ACA is the cost of the 10 essential benefits that every policy must have (regardless of whether you can use those benefits or not) eg. every man's and child's policy covers maternity and newborn care even though they don't use that benefit - this drives the cost of the premiums up.
    There are three issues that keep health care costs high...the costs of prescriptions....the costs of doctors....and the costs of medical equipment....

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    Isn't it adorable, seeing a child of privilege, speak of high costs...

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    Isn't it adorable, seeing a child of privilege, speak of high costs...
    Trump?

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    There are three issues that keep health care costs high...the costs of prescriptions....the costs of doctors....and the costs of medical equipment....
    Obamacare premiums soar as much as 78% to help cover ‘essential health benefits’ ...

    The reasons for the premium increases start with the Affordable Care Act’s prohibition on rejecting applicants with pre-existing conditions, which means that insurance companies must account for the additional costs of covering chronically ill or disabled people.

    Another cost driver is the heightened benefit mandate. The Affordable Care Act requires insurance policies to include 10 “essential health benefits,” including pediatric dental and vision care, maternity care and newborn care, even for policyholders with no children or whose children are adults.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...y-as/?page=all

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    Obamacare premiums soar as much as 78% to help cover ‘essential health benefits’ ...

    The reasons for the premium increases start with the Affordable Care Act’s prohibition on rejecting applicants with pre-existing conditions, which means that insurance companies must account for the additional costs of covering chronically ill or disabled people.

    Another cost driver is the heightened benefit mandate. The Affordable Care Act requires insurance policies to include 10 “essential health benefits,” including pediatric dental and vision care, maternity care and newborn care, even for policyholders with no children or whose children are adults.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...y-as/?page=all


    ....it's the Washington Times....

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    The law was never designed to control costs. The closest thing to that would have been offering a public option, which Obama let die in the senate.
    yup

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    Isn't it adorable, seeing a child of privilege, speak of high costs...
    Why do you hate rich people? Class warfare!

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    Why do you hate rich people? Class warfare!
    It has nothing to do with rich or poor, but the social disconnect. People like the Clintons like to claim they understand the common people, but they don't. It's all an act with them.

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    I trolled Chelsea a couple times on Twitter. Always challenging her double standard concerning her parents vs Bernie.

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    The law was never designed to control costs. The closest thing to that would have been offering a public option, which Obama let die in the senate.
    Insurance-tool Baucus, and esp Liebermann (from CT, home state of a many huge insurance companies), would not have voted for single-payer or anything that would have seriously reduced BigInsurance's ability to Americans.

    Anyway, the only way to control costs is to expand Medicare to everybody, since Medicare does set prices.

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