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That is actually pretty cool ...
It's probably part of why he was such a great team-mate and leader
Yeah, he hid his true self and attendant weaknesses, his fandom (down & upstairs), Media (to this ing day) chronologically refuse to indict him on these truths and weaknesses. They only want to pinpoint his strengths. In their estimation Tim Duncan cannot withstand the truth of his life.
That's where a fellow like me steps in and badgers the countryside. It's what I did here in this city and what I do here on this ground.
I have to. I know nary other way.
- Dale
But they sold Spurs gear!!!!!!!!!
I do think there is some inherent media bias in the Kobe vs. duncan debates in the media
That being said:
1. Kobe brought that on himself by being an asshole
2. the metric lovers almost all favor Duncan
3. yet Kobe is insanely more popular with the general fan her and abroad despite having wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy more haters.
Of course duncan has flaws so did jordan but when you play nice with the media they will gloss over them.
either way he is a great player ... but this notion that duncan is head and shoulders better is bull .
He may be better but it's close.
And even though some Laker fans wont admit it he has a case over Kobe ...
They'll be no peace until Duncan's marriage & divorce & '13 are put up in the public arena. I want his ass dragged thru the fleet.
He can stand the gaffe.
Depends how you define heads and shoulders.
Duncan is above Moses, Hakeem and Shaq, likely in the Magic Bird tier. Kareem and Jordan are a tier above. Lebron has a case for either being in the Magic/Bird/Duncan tier, or in the Shaq/Hakeem/Moses tier.
Kobe has a case with the Hakeem, Shaq and Moses, but more appropriate along with the West, Oscar, Dirk, Robinson group.
Wont do that today, Amb.
But what you are saying is not crazy.
Just like me saying he is on a similar tier with duncan.
all of this is subjective anyway and even if you metrics you cant find any consistency on who the greatest truly is.
Duncan is in my all time top 5 but Kobe is not because of jordan.
so even in my personal rankings duncan is above Kobe ...
But duncan is probably at the bottom of my 5 while Kobe is at the top of my second 5
1. MJ (SG)
2. Kareem (C)
3. Magic (PG)
4. Duncan (PF
5. LeBron (SF)
2nd team
1. Kobe (SG)
2. Shaq (C)
3. Bird (SF)
4. Isiah (PG)
5. Dirk (PF)
Dirk was my toughest call ...considered KG, Chuck, Malone. but yes rings do matter and his game aged better than the rest ...
IF steph can have afew more elite seasons he may bump off Isiah
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and if Lebron gets to 4 he jumps magic heck he might already be over Magic which is tough for me to swallow because he is my all time favorite but a case can be made for both Lebron and Duncan at #3 so I left Magic there for now. Maybe Lebron makes it all moot.
Damn son, you grossly overrate Kobe, the guy as alpha missed the playoffs in his prime, got carried by Shaq Daddy to three les, and needed one of greatest frontlines in NBA history just to counter his chucking for his last two where he was co-alpha at BEST...
Interesting he started off with the word blow hard...what a complete got
The reason the "metric lovers" (aka the educated) like Tim over Kobe is because it's obvious. Just because Kobe was one of the greatest marketers in all of sports does not change the on-court stuff.
It's not close. There is no argument. Tim was better than Kobe. That doesn't mean Kobe sucked either. Kobe is a top 15 player (I'd say 10-12).
That got couldn't even dribble a ball up court without getting ripped....by default he can't be better than Kobe
http://atlantadailyworld.com/2014/10/04/tim-duncan-is-gay-says-estranged-wife/
"Well, did you hear there's a natural order? That those most deserving will end up with the most? That the cream cannot help but rise up to the top? Well, I say, ' floats.' If you thought things had changed, friend, you'd better think again. Bluntly put, in the fewest of words: C*nts are still running the world. C*nts are still running the world..."
Danny Green, in an interview with New York based radio station 105.1, said “Timmy is Tim. I’m not going to look at him any differently. He’s my teammate regardless of his sexual preferences.”
That got couldn't even dribble a ball up court without getting ripped....by default he can't be better than Kobe
Anyone can find a whole in the defense...point is by default he can't handle the rock...he can't orchestrate an offense like Kobe can....all he can do is park that gay ass in the paint...
Co-wrote?
More like stood to the side while someone else wrote the paper. Much like the same dynamic he had with Amy while she was riding her be@ner personal trainer.
Man, Laker fans sure are phobic. Really odd considering Magic is one of the best players of all time and Kobe has a bunch of rumors (more than Tim IIRC - I think Kobe has a gay sex tape).
Really odd. You would think Laker fans would be the most understanding and not care about that stuff especially since it doesn't matter and has no impact on the court.
I never said I was making that case anymore.
The reason the "metric lovers" (aka the educated) like Tim over Kobe is because it's obvious. Just because Kobe was one of the greatest marketers in all of sports does not change the on-court stuff.
It's not close. There is no argument. Tim was better than Kobe. That doesn't mean Kobe sucked either. Kobe is a top 15 player (I'd say 10-12).
I said a case can be made.
A case can be made for Lebron over jordan (CN made it right after the finals) but it would be a flimsy one at this point ...
BTW I wasnt arguing against the data ... that is part of why I conceded the argument to Amb last year. t
That, plus 5 plus the Achilles pretty much ended it for me.
Only thing I argue is that it's closer tha y'all will admit.
you disagree? that is shocking.
I do disagree it was "closer than people admit". That is a way for Kobe fans (IMO) to try and keep Kobe close to Duncan. I mean, in the big scheme of things if you want to say a top 5-7 player is close to a top 10-12 player, OK, but when you actually look at things, I don't think there is really an argument to be made.
Like I said, that does not mean that Kobe was bad or anything - still a phenomenal player. There is just no sound argument to be made other than marketing that Kobe was better than Tim so I don't think it makes sense to call it close when it's a pretty clear cut winner.
I have no interest in this today but you guys keep sucking me back in.
This is not something you can convince me on.
Upstairs was just ing about how Wilbon (uggh I hate that guy) made the argument and gave Kobe the edge.
this is Duncan's day.
I think they are closer than you do but both are in my top 10.
Somewhere between 5-7
Just enjoy a great career of the GOAT PF ...
Oh and Laker fans dont want to "keep it close" go to LG most say it's clearly Kobe with excuses/reasons being the FO, duncan always had Pop we lost Phil and Jerry west etc.
So glad I am not in that "camp" anymore.
duncan cant even get a farewell tour because no one would miss him anyway lmao
Why Duncan is the most influential player of his time
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/16989399/why-tim-duncan-most-influential-player?sf30742876=1
what the is this LMAO. I aint ever seen another big man shoot bank shots for a living
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