Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 33
  1. #1
    bandwagoner fans suck ducks's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Apr 2003
    Post Count
    74,377
    Just said Adam is concerned Durant joined Gs and wants to make changes in collective bargaining to maintain league competive balance

  2. #2
    foaming at the nostrils raybies's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Dec 2012
    Post Count
    6,472
    good. big three is enough imo now players need big 4s cmon

  3. #3
    Veteran offset formation's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Post Count
    5,729
    Not sure how you could legally disallow it though unless it was based in anti-monopoly laws that discouraged compe ion. But someone could easily sue a prospective CBA that prevented a free agent from signing where they wanted.

    I like the idea in principle though just to keep the league compe ive.

  4. #4
    Believe.
    My Team
    Minnesota Timberwolves
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Post Count
    615
    Whatever. If no team can beat them straight up then let them have it. It will be the most meaningless le probably in the history of American sports.

  5. #5
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Post Count
    4,197
    Just said Adam is concerned Durant joined Gs and wants to make changes in collective bargaining to maintain league competive balance
    Hopefully this means the refs will be out to GS this year

  6. #6
    Believe.
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Post Count
    507
    Just said Adam is concerned Durant joined Gs and wants to make changes in collective bargaining to maintain league competive balance
    Yep. Get ready for another lock out at the end of the next CBA. I would love it if the NBA imposed a hard cap like the NFL.

  7. #7
    hope and change
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Post Count
    5,749
    Yep. Get ready for another lock out at the end of the next CBA. I would love it if the NBA imposed a hard cap like the NFL.
    Lux tax seems to be working out just fine, small market teams are doing great. the problem is the max contract and the superstar, If there was a much higher limit on what star players could get paid, these super teams wouldn't happen.

  8. #8
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Post Count
    13,102
    I think tbh eventually these guys will stop creating super teams. I think this will stop due to the media culture changing the way they value guys winning championships. The media screwed up in the past about not being honest on how to rate guys who won and didn't win championships. The best example of this is how they overrated Kobe big time when he won championships without being truthful about him having a stacked team. Lebron got a lot of hate by the media during the late '00s for not being able to win in Cleveland despite having a ty roster while Kobe got all the praise. I think this is what ultimately influenced Lebron to create the Super Team in Miami in the sense he felt that all he had do was win and he would get all the credit. Durant I'm sure believes the same thing that if he win les nobody is going to care that he won with stacked teams. I predict over the next 10-20 years due to the influence of social media will cause the media to shift and be truthful on how much credit these guys really deserve for winning championships. This in return will make it more unpopular for these guys to do it knowing they are not going to get full credit for winning with a loaded team.

  9. #9
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Post Count
    1,685
    Blame whoever decided it was a good idea to have this massive cap increase instead of a gradual one. If it was gradual the Warriors would have had to pay Klay and Draymond more to stick around and probably wouldn't have had the cap space needed for Durant.

  10. #10
    6X ST MVP
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Post Count
    81,091
    I think tbh eventually these guys will stop creating super teams. I think this will stop due to the media culture changing the way they value guys winning championships. The media screwed up in
    Stopped reading about there. You have guys often low on self esteem and high on money and fame who are fine with the super teams. And since when is the media anyone's saving grace? No. Just bad analysis.

  11. #11
    The 6th is coming... will_spurs's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Post Count
    3,969
    I predict over the next 10-20 years due to the influence of social media will cause the media to shift and be truthful on how much credit these guys really deserve for winning championships. This in return will make it more unpopular for these guys to do it knowing they are not going to get full credit for winning with a loaded team.
    I don't know, it seems players have always been disrepected (and their achievements minimized) for not winning a championship, e.g. Barkley, Malone, Stockton.

    Guys like Malone or KG will always be footnotes in history compared to Duncan because they never won a ring in their prime. All the players understand winning a ring is extremely important for their legacy.

  12. #12
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Post Count
    13,102
    Stopped reading about there. You have guys often low on self esteem and high on money and fame who are fine with the super teams. And since when is the media anyone's saving grace? No. Just bad analysis.
    They have the low self esteem because they believe that have to win to get the approval of others and that's why they join the super teams. These guys care too much what the media thinks about them. Best example is how Durant for years has complained about media criticism of him and his lack of success in OKC. Durant got tired of the criticism and believes if he wins a le it will go away regardless of how he wins the championship hence him picking GS. The media controls how most of these guys think very few can think independently and society over time influences changes within the media. I don't think Durant is going to get respect on social media and from people outside of Cali if he wins and this in return will slowly cause the media to shift their views on how to value guys winning championships. It won't be an overnight change but it will happen over time.

  13. #13
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Post Count
    13,102
    I don't know, it seems players have always been disrepected (and their achievements minimized) for not winning a championship, e.g. Barkley, Malone, Stockton.

    Guys like Malone or KG will always be footnotes in history compared to Duncan because they never won a ring in their prime. All the players understand winning a ring is extremely important for their legacy.
    I definitely agree winning championships is important but it's how you value them. I doubt Malone or KG would have been able to make a case of being better than Tim even if they had gone the super team route in their primes and won a few rings because they probably would have had a Scottie Pippen type of role on those teams and not the role of Alpha.

  14. #14
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Post Count
    10,246
    Just the leverage the owners needed

  15. #15
    Big in Japan GSH's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Post Count
    14,093
    Well make a new rule, Adam. That way there won't be any new super-teams to compete with them.

    So what's he going to do? Only one max salary per team? Two? Yeah, that will go over big with the Union. A point system, to measure how good players are, and regulate the distribution of talent? Good luck with that. Or are they going to try and keep franchise players from having as much mobility? A plantation system.

    Never thought I'd miss Stern this much.

  16. #16
    Body Of Work Mr. Body's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Post Count
    29,455
    Well make a new rule, Adam. That way there won't be any new super-teams to compete with them.

    So what's he going to do? Only one max salary per team? Two? Yeah, that will go over big with the Union. A point system, to measure how good players are, and regulate the distribution of talent? Good luck with that. Or are they going to try and keep franchise players from having as much mobility? A plantation system.

    Never thought I'd miss Stern this much.
    Stern would have loved this, except it's Golden State and not the Lakers.

  17. #17
    Out with the old... Obstructed_View's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Post Count
    41,715
    The current compe ive balance sucks. Why would you make a move NOW to maintain it? The horse is already out of that gate, tbh.

  18. #18
    Good to Great hsxvvd's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Post Count
    2,427
    I definitely agree winning championships is important but it's how you value them. I doubt Malone or KG would have been able to make a case of being better than Tim even if they had gone the super team route in their primes and won a few rings because they probably would have had a Scottie Pippen type of role on those teams and not the role of Alpha.
    The whole footnote in history thing is overstated. Malone is history and whilst his name keeps coming up in this sort of conversation... it simply implies he was a superstar worthy of a le. I'd rather be remembered for that, than an also ran on a stacked team.

  19. #19
    Veteran Spurs9's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Post Count
    7,081
    Stern wouldn't have let this happen

  20. #20
    Done with the NBA
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Post Count
    18,479
    good. big three is enough imo now players need big 4s cmon
    Them s already had a big 3 that fit perfectly together and team stacked with role players. Somehow they still choked away the ring. Now they'll just overwhelm the compe ion which is bad for the league.

  21. #21
    Believe.
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Post Count
    448
    Them s already had a big 3 that fit perfectly together and team stacked with role players. Somehow they still choked away the ring. Now they'll just overwhelm the compe ion which is bad for the league.
    It was a league game, Smokey...

  22. #22
    half man half amazing
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Post Count
    6,833
    The easiest way to fix this, get rid of max contacts. That would definitely spread the superstars around the league.

  23. #23
    6X ST MVP
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Post Count
    81,091
    They have the low self esteem because they believe that have to win to get the approval of others and that's why they join the super teams. These guys care too much what the media thinks about them. Best example is how Durant for years has complained about media criticism of him and his lack of success in OKC. Durant got tired of the criticism and believes if he wins a le it will go away regardless of how he wins the championship hence him picking GS. The media controls how most of these guys think very few can think independently and society over time influences changes within the media. I don't think Durant is going to get respect on social media and from people outside of Cali if he wins and this in return will slowly cause the media to shift their views on how to value guys winning championships. It won't be an overnight change but it will happen over time.
    The praise will drown out the criticism like in the case of LBJ.

  24. #24
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Post Count
    13,102
    The praise will drown out the criticism like in the case of LBJ.
    It actually didn't drown out the criticism when it came to LBJ. Part of the reason he left Miami and came back to Cleveland was that he was tired of people hating him.

  25. #25
    Believe.
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Post Count
    944
    Stern was Joffrey and Silver is Tommen.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •