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    Sam Harris on Islam, the Left, Trump, and Hillary:

    If you want to hear someone with some criticism of the left that any good liberal should be nodding. Skip to about the 11:00 minute mark for the first bit.

    He also has some very unpopular opinions on Islam that gets him a lot of criticism from the left. I have come fairly close to his viewpoint.


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    Interesting comments starting at 44:45 about liberal college students supporting Trump and *gasp* the face of the alt-rights flaming gay black loving racist Milo Yiannopoulos

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    is there a transcript?

    not gonna waste an listening, or nodding, to this asshole

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    is there a transcript?

    not gonna waste an listening, or nodding, to this asshole
    Open in a separate window and listen to it while you spam the forum for the next hour

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    Sam Harris on Islam, the Left, Trump, and Hillary:

    If you want to hear someone with some criticism of the left that any good liberal should be nodding. Skip to about the 11:00 minute mark for the first bit.

    He also has some very unpopular opinions on Islam that gets him a lot of criticism from the left. I have come fairly close to his viewpoint.

    Can you paraphrase in your own words? Or at least give a quick summary that might motivate one to actually click a one hour plus long youtube video? I agree a lot with Bill Maher on Islam when he is infuriated by the false equivalences American liberals make between Christianity and Islam and how liberals are so quick to make excuses for that ed up religion. I also agree a lot with Dawkins, he shreds moderate Islam in The God Delusion, it's a great read.

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    Open in a separate window and listen to it while you spam the forum for the next hour
    take my slappings like a little

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    Great discussion. Thanks for posting. Seriously.

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    Can you paraphrase in your own words? Or at least give a quick summary that might motivate one to actually click a one hour plus long youtube video? I agree a lot with Bill Maher on Islam when he is infuriated by the false equivalences American liberals make between Christianity and Islam and how liberals are so quick to make excuses for that ed up religion. I also agree a lot with Dawkins, he shreds moderate Islam in The God Delusion, it's a great read.
    Then you would tend to agree with Sam Harris.

    Watching Ben Affleck get "triggered" on Maher's show was hilarious.

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    A problem for the left?

    You gobble necked right wing pussies were the ones clinching your tight assholes after she called you deplorable

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    Then you would tend to agree with Sam Harris.

    Watching Ben Affleck get "triggered" on Maher's show was hilarious.
    Yeah I mean the problem with taking what these celebrities say at more than anything than face value is their entire careers are based off trying not to offend their audience--well except White (mainly conservative and/or Christian people), who also happen to be the same people who give them basically all their money & fame, since that's who demographically makes up the majority of Western society.

    It's really just narcissism. I mean NONE of these celebrities really have differing views (if that's what they ACTUALLY believe, which I highly doubt many do), or at least the ones who express them publicly.

    But I guess they have to work within the parameters set by the media elites, and I doubt I'd have the balls to go against them if I was in their position either given how incredibly comfortable & blindingly good they must have it.

    That said, Maher is one of the very, very few dudes on TV--conservative or liberal, comedian or otherwise--that actually says pretty much whatever the he wants to say, offensive or not. But even then, I think he holds back some. At least he has a fair balance of guests on though that have different opinions, which makes up for that.
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    A problem for the left?

    You gobble necked right wing pussies were the ones clinching your tight assholes after she called you deplorable
    And the Christian Taliban are SO OFFENDED, INCENSED when somebody or some company says Happy Holidays instead Merry CHRISTMAS. bull "War On Christmas"

    And the Christian Taliban are SO OFFENDED, INCENSED when there is any pushback against their Christian Sharia, creationism, etc bull "War On Christians"

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    A problem for the left?

    You gobble necked right wing pussies were the ones clinching your tight assholes after she called you deplorable
    Came in to say the same thing, PC is used by everyone since forever, but it was invented by conservatives. It's their ing raison d'etre.

    As far as Islam goes, I think it's ing stupid, that doesn't mean it's fair to treat all Muslims as terrorists when the vast majority of them are not, and the ones that are are clearly motivated by revenge for Western atrocities that are de able and "terrorist". It's yet another double standard to cry wolf when some jihadi idiot beheads some poor journalist, then claim "collateral" when a group of kids are killed. If you think that because the jihadi said some bull about God before killing his victim that that makes it worse then the trained, most expensive, largest army on earth "accidentally" killing hundreds of people year after year, then clearly your agenda is more important to you than any concept of justice.

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    Came in to say the same thing, PC is used by everyone since forever, but it was invented by conservatives. It's their ing raison d'etre.

    As far as Islam goes, I think it's ing stupid, that doesn't mean it's fair to treat all Muslims as terrorists when the vast majority of them are not, and the ones that are are clearly motivated by revenge for Western atrocities that are de able and "terrorist". It's yet another double standard to cry wolf when some jihadi idiot beheads some poor journalist, then claim "collateral" when a group of kids are killed. If you think that because the jihadi said some bull about God before killing his victim that that makes it worse then the trained, most expensive, largest army on earth "accidentally" killing hundreds of people year after year, then clearly your agenda is more important to you than any concept of justice.
    Invented.

    Might want to read up on it's origins a bit.

    Here's a decent starter.
    http://reason.com/blog/2015/01/30/wh...ally-correct-m

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    You're talking about a term, a phrase. I'm talking about a concept. Politically correct refers to what is socially acceptable speech/thought/behavior. A "conservative" aims to maintain a status quo of what is acceptable and what isn't. Call it what you want, but when one group tries to force it's norms on another that is "pc" censorship and conservatives by definition were the first to achieve that.

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    You're talking about a term, a phrase. I'm talking about a concept. Politically correct refers to what is socially acceptable speech/thought/behavior. A "conservative" aims to maintain a status quo of what is acceptable and what isn't. Call it what you want, but when one group tries to force it's norms on another that is "pc" censorship and conservatives by definition were the first to achieve that.


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    You're talking about a term, a phrase. I'm talking about a concept. Politically correct refers to what is socially acceptable speech/thought/behavior. A "conservative" aims to maintain a status quo of what is acceptable and what isn't. Call it what you want, but when one group tries to force it's norms on another that is "pc" censorship and conservatives by definition were the first to achieve that.
    Actually read my link.

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    i blame the chem trails.

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    i blame the chem trails.
    One hair at a time plz.

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    "political correctness" is a 4-letter word in the mouths of Repugs/Fox to trash anyone not of their persuasion, as being overly sensitive to insults, racism, bigotry, xenophobia from Repugs/Fox/rightwingnuts/gun-fellators.

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    Political correctness is an outdated term. The real problem is the SJW disease that is speading like Ebola.

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    Came in to say the same thing, PC is used by everyone since forever, but it was invented by conservatives. It's their ing raison d'etre.

    As far as Islam goes, I think it's ing stupid, that doesn't mean it's fair to treat all Muslims as terrorists when the vast majority of them are not, and the ones that are are clearly motivated by revenge for Western atrocities that are de able and "terrorist". It's yet another double standard to cry wolf when some jihadi idiot beheads some poor journalist, then claim "collateral" when a group of kids are killed. If you think that because the jihadi said some bull about God before killing his victim that that makes it worse then the trained, most expensive, largest army on earth "accidentally" killing hundreds of people year after year, then clearly your agenda is more important to you than any concept of justice.
    Dumb liberal chicken ID# 561N8793

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    Political correctness is an outdated term. The real problem is the SJW disease that is speading like Ebola.
    not like Ebola, because Ebola died out after 2014. It's spreading like iPhone technology, or the black plague in the 1300s.

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    Political correctness is an outdated term. The real problem is the SJW disease that is speading like Ebola.
    Basically this. There will aways be some standards of what is and isn't acceptable to say, and people generally agree on those standards (using slurs publicly, etc). The sjw movement is taking that concept and push it to a ridiculous extreme.

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    He also has some very unpopular opinions on Islam that gets him a lot of criticism from the left. I have come fairly close to his viewpoint.
    ^bigot, xenophobe, islamophobe

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