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    conflates foreign policy with military intervention, but that's been the recent trend:

    Fifteen years after the invasion of Afghanistan, the Special Inspector General for Afghan Reconstruction (SIGAR) released findings that “corruption substantially undermined the U.S. mission in Afghanistan from the very beginning of Operation Enduring Freedom. … We conclude that failure to effectively address the problem means U.S. reconstruction programs, at best, will continue to be subverted by systemic corruption and, at worst, will fail.”

    Earlier this month, a British Parliament study found that the result of Western military intervention in Libya “was political and economic collapse, inter-militia and inter-tribal warfare, humanitarian and migrant crises, widespread human rights violations, the spread of Gaddafi regime weapons across the region and the growth of ISIL in North Africa.”



    Airstrikes and drone attacks are accidentally killing thousands of civilians, aid workers, wedding parties, and now even the troops of a nation against whom we are not at war. Each of these mistakes, repeated hundreds of times over the past 15 years, creates more antagonism and hatred of the United States than any other single event. Whatever tactical benefit some of the strikes do accomplish, they are consumed in the still-worsening strategic failure the misfires cause.



    Bottom line: The use of military power since 2001 has:




    • Turned a previously whole and regionally impotent Iraq that balanced Iran into a factory of terrorism and a client of Tehran;


    • Turned Afghanistan from a country with a two-sided civil war—contained within its own borders—into a dysfunctional state that serves as a magnet for terrorists.


    • Turned a Libya that suffered internal unrest, but didn’t threaten its neighbors or harbor terrorists, into an “unmitigated failure” featuring a raging civil war, serving as an African beachhead for ISIS and a terrorist breeding ground;


    • Contributed to the expansion of al-Qaeda into a “franchise” group, spawned a new strain when ISIS was born out of the vacuum created by our Iraq invasion, and seen major terrorist threats explode worldwide;


    • Joined other nations in battles in Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, and other areas within Africa whose only result has been the expansion of the threat and the deepening of the suffering of the civil populations.
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    Entire generations of leaders and troops at every level have grown up training almost exclusively on small-scale counterinsurgency (COIN) warfare.



    As one who has fought in both high-end armored warfare and small-scale COIN, I can tell you that creating effective battle units for conventional war is far, far more difficult and time consuming.



    Likewise, the Air Force has not fought against a modern adversary with fleets of effective fighter jets, bombers, and potent air-defense capabilities. Such operations are orders of magnitude more difficult than attacking insurgents on the ground who pose no threat to aircraft.



    It is critical to understand that no insurgency or terror group represents an existential threat to viability of the United States. Failure in a conventional battle to a major power, however, can cripple the nation.



    It is discouraging to see the administration, Congress, and the Department of Defense fully tethered to the perpetual application of military power against small-scale threats. Terrorism definitely represents a threat to U.S. interests, and we must defend against it. But the obsession with using major military assets on these relatively small-scale threats has not only failed to stem the threat, it has in part been responsible for expanding it. Meanwhile, the unhealthy focus on the small-scale has weakened—and continues to weaken—our ability to respond to the truly existential threats.

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    My son is currently on the Eisenhower in the Persian Gulf. Sorties he tells me are pretty much 24/7. Planes leave with bombs/missiles, return without them. This is a big, bad-ass carrier. Raining holy, expensive , ostensibly, on someone and something. To what end? What is that ordinance achieving, other than enriching the manufacturers?

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    Frankly, the reason we haven't beaten ISIS yet is our stupid, incompetent leaders. I’ve been dealing with politicians all my life. They are all talk, no action. We need toughness, folks, and we need it fast.

    In fact, in many respects, you know, Isis is honouring President Obama. He is the founder of Isis. He is the founder of Isis. He’s the founder. He founded Isis. And I would say the co-founder would be crooked Hillary Clinton. Co-founder. Crooked Hillary invented ISIS with her stupid policies.

    I know more about ISIS than the generals do. Believe me. ISIS is making a tremendous amount of money because they have certain oil camps, certain areas of oil that they took away. They have some in Syria, some in Iraq.

    I would bomb the out of 'em. I would just bomb those suckers. That's right. I'd blow up the pipes. I'd blow up every single inch. There would be nothing left.

    I would hit them so hard. I would find you a proper general, I would find the Patton or MacArthur. I would hit them so hard your head would spin. I would do things that would be so tough that I don't even know if they'd be around to come to the table.

    And you know what, you'll get Exxon to come in there and in two months, you ever see these guys, how good they are, the great oil companies? They’ll rebuild that sucker, brand new — it'll be beautiful. You put a ring around the oil fields, you just put a ring around them. You would leave a certain group behind and you would take various sections where they have the oil.

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    Frankly, the reason we haven't beaten ISIS yet is our stupid, incompetent leaders. I’ve been dealing with politicians all my life. They are all talk, no action. We need toughness, folks, and we need it fast.

    In fact, in many respects, you know, Isis is honouring President Obama. He is the founder of Isis. He is the founder of Isis. He’s the founder. He founded Isis. And I would say the co-founder would be crooked Hillary Clinton. Co-founder. Crooked Hillary invented ISIS with her stupid policies.

    I know more about ISIS than the generals do. Believe me. ISIS is making a tremendous amount of money because they have certain oil camps, certain areas of oil that they took away. They have some in Syria, some in Iraq.

    I would bomb the out of 'em. I would just bomb those suckers. That's right. I'd blow up the pipes. I'd blow up every single inch. There would be nothing left.

    I would hit them so hard. I would find you a proper general, I would find the Patton or MacArthur. I would hit them so hard your head would spin. I would do things that would be so tough that I don't even know if they'd be around to come to the table.

    And you know what, you'll get Exxon to come in there and in two months, you ever see these guys, how good they are, the great oil companies? They’ll rebuild that sucker, brand new — it'll be beautiful. You put a ring around the oil fields, you just put a ring around them. You would leave a certain group behind and you would take various sections where they have the oil.

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    My son is currently on the Eisenhower in the Persian Gulf. Sorties he tells me are pretty much 24/7. Planes leave with bombs/missiles, return without them. This is a big, bad-ass carrier. Raining holy, expensive , ostensibly, on someone and something. To what end? What is that ordinance achieving, other than enriching the manufacturers?

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