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    Top 5 most Overrated Players (ability/ceiling/salary/media attention factors in..) sponsored by Kirby before the analytics movement:

    1- Klay Thompson
    2- Bradley Beal
    3- Harrison Barnes (Carlisle is going to bump him down this list )
    4- Steven Adams (after extension)
    5- Al Horford

    HM: Mike Conley (gone from most underrated circa 2013 to top 10 overrated NBA player, Chandler Parsons (would have been a top3 in 2015, but he's become a damaged goods), Draymond Green (on too many top 10 players list, tbh)

    Top 5 most Underrated Players (ability/ceiling/salary/media attention factors in..) sponsored by DPOY-less Scottie Pippen leading DK-less Bulls to 55 wins:

    1- Jae Crowder
    2- Paul Millsap
    3- George Hill
    4- Taj Gibson
    5- Jordan Clarkson

    HM: jj Barea..


    Top 5 Team Cancers (character + style of play) sponsored by Josh Smith 4th straight heat check pull up three:

    1- Derrick Rose
    2- Lance Stephenson
    3- Dion Waiters
    4- Rajon Rondo
    5 - Rudy Gay


    Top 5 Empty Stats players (minuscule impact on the game/teammates outside their own numbers) sponsored by Wolves-era Kevin Love:

    1- Andre Drummond
    2- Greg Monroe
    3- Lamarcus Aldridge
    4- Andrew Wiggins
    5- Demare Derozan




    Top 5 TOSBs (players who are done or have suddenly become a s of their former self) sponsored by Kirby post-2012:

    1- Roy Hibbert
    2- Paul Pierce
    3- David West
    4- Tony Parker
    5- Al Jefferson
    Last edited by spursistan; 11-12-2016 at 07:16 PM.

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    Klaw apalisoc_9's Avatar
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    Solid list overall op.

    Jordan Clarkson is a solid player. He would be a nice 8th guy, opposed to Kyle.

    Paul Millsap is probably the most underrated star player though...

    Not sure if underrated, but I dont know what guys like Lillard do that Kemba can't imo.

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    Top 5 most Overrated Players (ability/ceiling/salary/media attention factors in..) sponsored by Kirby before the analytics movement:

    1- Klay Thompson
    2- Bradley Beal
    3- Harrison Barnes (Carlisle is going to bump him down this list )
    4- Steven Adams (after extension)
    5- Al Horford

    HM: Mike Conley (gone from most underrated circa 2013 to top 10 overrated NBA player, Chandler Parsons (would have been a top3 in 2015, but he's become a damaged goods), Draymond Green (on too many top 10 players list, tbh)

    Top 5 most Underrated Players (ability/ceiling/salary/media attention factors in..) sponsored by DPOY-less Scottie Pippen leading DK-less Bulls to 55 wins:

    1- Jae Crowder
    2- Paul Millsap
    3- George Hill
    4- Taj Gibson
    5- Jordan Clarkson

    HM: jj Barea..


    Top 5 Team Cancers (character + style of play) sponsored by Josh Smith 4th straight heat check pull up three:

    1- Derrick Rose
    2- Lance Stephenson
    3- Dion Waiters
    4- Rajon Rondo
    5 - Rudy Gay


    Top 5 Empty Stats players (minuscule impact on the game/teammates outside their own numbers) sponsored by Wolves-era Kevin Love:

    1- Andre Drummond
    2- Greg Monroe
    3- Lamarcus Aldridge
    4- Andrew Wiggins
    5- Demare Derozan




    Top 5 TOSBs (players who are done or have suddenly become a s of their former self) sponsored by Kirby post-2012:

    1- Roy Hibbert
    2- Paul Pierce
    3- David West
    4- Tony Parker
    5- Al Jefferson
    Over-rated I'm fine with. Under-rated I dunno. Top team cancers that doesn't include Melo and Cousins is hacky. I like the empty stats category. LMA has a case. Pierce has the TO; I dunno about the SB. He needs to retire though imo.

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    Derozan most overrated, Lowry most underrated so far (both shooting %s will regress)

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    Veteran spursistan's Avatar
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    Solid list overall op.

    Jordan Clarkson is a solid player. He would be a nice 8th guy, opposed to Kyle.

    Paul Millsap is probably the most underrated star player though...

    Not sure if underrated, but I dont know what guys like Lillard do that Kemba can't imo.
    PLaying in the East, tbh

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    Probably should have bumped Conley up given his salary and his current play ..

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    i dont take any player out east seriously when they play against horse compe ion posting up empty stats

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    At end of season i might be considering Wes Mathews in TOSB category..

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    At end of season i might be considering Wes Mathews in TOSB category..
    Just checked: Wes is shooting 29% FG (25% 3PT)..holy

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    Rudy Gay definitely should be on the empty stats list

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    Paul George for Overrated/Empty Stats.

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    Vucevic, Rondo, Lavine empty stats

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    Rondo and Rose are two biggest cancers in the NBA ..The first got benched permanently and might bough out and the latter is sulking because of it..


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    Not in any order

    Overrated
    Marc gasol
    Klay thompson
    Demarree caroll
    Randle
    booker

    Underrated
    Kemba walker
    Jabari parker
    Danny green (outside of spurs fans of course)
    Shaun livingston
    Dennis schroeder

    Tosb
    David west
    Pierce

    Cancers
    Rondo
    Cousins
    Rose
    Carmelo

    Empty stats
    Derozan
    Wiggins
    Pau gasol
    Jimmy butler
    Westbrook

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    Overrated
    durant
    westbrook
    harden
    towns
    klay thompson
    curry
    kyrie irving
    marc gasol
    demonkey jordan

    Underrated
    kwahi
    giannis
    kevin love
    millsap
    isaiah thomas
    jefferson
    john wall
    igoudala
    cp3 (carrying these gots imo)
    mccollum

    Cancers
    Cousins
    Rose
    dwert howard
    rondo


    TOSB
    wade
    pierce
    dirk
    pau
    porker, manu



    Empty stats (playoffs context)
    Wiggins
    harden
    cousins
    d'angela russell and the whole lakers tbh
    lavine
    greg monroe
    rudy gay

    need to see more:
    lillard

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