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    Lincoln's greenbacks
    What does that even mean, Chris?

    Explain your plan for overhauling the US financial system.

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    Trump Official Says the President Hasn't Fired John Kelly Yet Because He Doesn't Know How: Report

    Reporter Olivia Nuzzi got a bizarre glimpse into the Oval Office.

    recounting in detail the bizarre and hokey attempt by the president and his aides to dissuade her from writing a story about turmoil in the executive branch.

    in an apparently staged effort to convinced Nuzzi that there's no turmoil in the White House,

    Trump trotted out his chief of staff,
    vice president,
    the vice president's chief of staff,
    secretary of state, and
    the press secretary,

    insisting that they're all one big happy family.


    Then, in a moment of almost self-parody, Trump says, "This was not a set up."

    The reason for the meeting is that Nuzzi had been working on a story about one of the enduring mysteries in Washington, D.C.:

    Why does John Kelly still have a job?

    Tensions between Kelly and Trump have been widely reported, and many expected that the chief of staff would have been fired long ago.


    One anonymous administration official gave Nuzzi a particularly provocative explanation for why Kelly remains:

    Trump doesn't know how to fire him.

    https://www.alternet.org/news-amp-po...he-doesnt-know

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    My Private Oval Office Press Conference With Donald Trump, Mike Pence, John Kelly, and Mike Pompeo

    https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018...ald-trump.html




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    What does that even mean, Chris?

    Explain your plan for overhauling the US financial system.
    I don't have a plan. Lincoln did and it was called 'greenbacks.' If you're unfamiliar with this concept I can provide you a link so you can educate yourself. Saavy?

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    I don't have a plan.
    You sure as don't.



    Hence, the Fed stays.

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    You sure as don't.



    Hence, the Fed stays.
    Whatever you say pal.

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    Whatever you say pal.
    It's what you say, Chris.

    You have no plan. You have no idea what you're talking about.

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    It's what you say, Chris.

    You have no plan. You have no idea what you're talking about.
    Sure thing pal.

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    Sure thing pal.
    The Fed isn't going away.

    That is a sure thing.

    Chris.

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    The Fed isn't going away.

    That is a sure thing.

    Chris.
    You love the big bankers. Lincoln and Kennedy died for trying to end the Fed.

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    You mentioned my name in your post about Trump. You made it personal.

    Try to keep up please.
    I simply replied to your hypocritical bible verse, hypocrite. You're a weak pussy and a hypocrite.

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    You love the big bankers. Lincoln and Kennedy died for trying to end the Fed.
    chrispiracy

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    You love the big bankers. Lincoln and Kennedy died for trying to end the Fed.
    There wasn't even a fed when Lincoln was president.

    You are an idiot, Chris.

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    I simply replied to your hypocritical bible verse, hypocrite. You're a weak pussy and a hypocrite.
    “Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye.
    -Matthew 7:1-5


    "What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him? If a brother or sister is poorly clothed and lacking in daily food, and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and filled,” without giving them the things needed for the body, what good is that? So also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead. But someone will say, “You have faith and I have works.” Show me your faith apart from your works, and I will show you my faith by my works."
    -James 2:14-26


    "Having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people."
    -2 Timothy 3:5

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    There wasn't even a fed when Lincoln was president.

    You are an idiot, Chris.
    Not the creature from the Jeckll Island, but it was the same families.

    You are just uneducated, and too stubborn to learn.

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    Not the creature from the Jeckll Island, but it was the same families.

    You are just uneducated, and too stubborn to learn.
    Explain how there was a Fed before there was a Fed and how John Wilkes Booth assassinated him to save it.


    Educate me.

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    'FALSE': Jim Acosta's Fact-Check Of Trump Tweet Gets Fact-Checked
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    Explain how there was a Fed before there was a Fed and how John Wilkes Booth assassinated him to save it.


    Educate me.
    The Following Is An Excerpt From The London Times 1865

    “If this mischievous financial policy, which has its origin in North America, shall become endurated down to a fixture, then that Government will furnish its own money without cost. It will pay off debts and be without debt. It will have all the money necessary to carry on its commerce. It will become prosperous without precedent in the history of the world. The brains, and wealth of all countries will go to North America. That country must be destroyed or it will destroy every monarchy on the globe.”

    Lord Goschen, spokesman of the Financiers, Hazard Circular – London Times, 1865

    Lincoln decided to wait until after the election of 1864 to seek renewed public support before reversing the National Bank Act he had been pressured into approving during the war. The money power was fully aware of Lincoln’s opposition to the international central banks’ world financial control. The international cabal decided that Lincoln had to be assassinated.


    (An article of Alain Pilote, first published in the Sept.-Oct., 1985 issue of the Vers Demain Journal.)

    The bankers' dictatorship and their debt-money system are not limited to one country, but exist in every country in the world. They are working to keep their control tight, since one country freeing itself from this dictatorship and issuing its own interest- and debt-free currency, setting the example of what an honest system could be, would be enough to bring about the collapse of the bankers' swindling debt-money system worldwide.

    This fight of the International Financiers to install their fraudulent debt-money system has been particularly vicious in the United States of America since its very foundation, and historical facts show that several American statesmen were well aware of the dishonest money system the Financiers wanted to impose upon America, and of all of its harmful effects. These statesmen were real patriots, who did all that they possibly could to maintain for the U.S.A. an honest money system, free from the control of the Financiers. The Financiers did everything in their power to keep in the dark this facet of the history of the United States, for fear that the example of these patriots might still be followed today. Here are these facts that the Financiers would like the population to ignore:

    The happiest population



    Benjamin Franklin

    We are in 1750. The United States of America does not yet exist; it is the 13 Colonies of the American continent, forming “New England”, a possession of the motherland, England. Benjamin Franklin wrote about the population of that time: “Impossible to find a happier and more prosperous population on all the surface of the globe.” Going over to England to represent the interests of the Colonies, Franklin was asked how he accounted for the prosperous conditions prevailing in the Colonies, while poverty was rife in the motherland:

    “That is simple,” Franklin replied. “In the Colonies we issue our own money. It is called Colonial Scrip. We issue it in proper proportion to make the products pass easily from the producers to the consumers. In this manner, creating ourselves our own paper money, we control its purchasing power, and we have no interest to pay to no one.”

    The English bankers, being informed of that, had a law passed by the British Parliament prohibiting the Colonies from issuing their own money, and ordering them to use only the gold or silver debt-money that was provided in insufficient quan y by the English bankers. The circulating medium of exchange was thus reduced by half.

    “In one year,” Franklin stated, “the conditions were so reversed that the era of prosperity ended, and a depression set in, to such an extent that the streets of the Colonies were filled with unemployed.”

    Then the Revolutionary War was launched against England, and was followed by the Declaration of Independence in 1776. History textbooks erroneously teach that it was the tax on tea that triggered the American Revolution. But Franklin clearly stated:

    “The Colonies would gladly have borne the little tax on tea and other matters, had it not been the poverty caused by the bad influence of the English bankers on the Parliament: which has caused in the Colonies hatred of England, and the Revolutionary War.”

    The Founding Fathers of the United States, bearing all these facts in mind, and to protect themselves against the exploitation of the International Bankers, took good care to expressly declare, in the American Cons ution, signed at Philadelphia, in 1787, Article 1, Section 8, paragraph 5:

    “Congress shall have the power to coin money and to regulate the value thereof.”

    The bank of the bankers

    Alexander Hamilton

    But the bankers did not give up. Their agent, Alexander Hamilton, was named Secretary of Treasury in George Washington's cabinet, and advocated the establishment of a federal bank to be owned by private interests, and the creation of debt-money with false arguments like: “A national debt, if it is not excessive, will be to us a national blessing... The wisdom of the Government will be shown in never trusting itself with the use of so seducing and dangerous an expedient as issuing its own money.” Hamilton also made them believe that only the debt-money issued by private banks would be accepted in dealing abroad.

    Thomas Jefferson, the Secretary of State, was strongly opposed to that project, but President Washington was finally won over by Hamilton's arguments. A federal bank was thus created in 1791, the “Bank of the United States”, with a 20 years' charter. Although it was termed “Bank of the United States”, it was actually the “bank of the bankers”, since it was not owned by the nation, but by individuals holding the bank's stocks, the private bankers. This name of “Bank of the United States” was purposely chosen to deceive the American population and to make them believe that they were the owners of the bank, which was not the case. The charter for the Bank of the United States ran out in 1811, and Congress voted against its renewal, thanks to the influence of Thomas Jefferson and Andrew Jackson:



    Andrew Jackson

    “If Congress,” Jackson said, “has a right under the Cons ution to issue paper money, it was given them to use by themselves, not to be delegated to individuals or corporations.”

    Thus ended the history of the first Bank of the United States. But the bankers did not play their last card.

    The bankers launch the war
    Nathan Rothschild, of the Bank of England, issued an ultimatum: “Either the application for the renewal of the charter is granted, or the United States will find itself involved in a most disastrous war.” Jackson and the American patriots did not believe the power of the international moneylenders could extend so far. “You are a den of thieves-vipers,” Jackson told them. “I intend to rout you out, and by the Eternal God, I will rout you out!” Nathan Rothschild issued orders: “Teach these impudent Americans a lesson. Bring them back to Colonial status.”

    The British Government launched the War of 1812 against the United States. Rothschild's plan was to impoverish the United States through this war to such an extent that the legislators would have to seek financial aid... which, of course, would be forthcoming only in return for the renewal of the charter for the Bank of the United States. Thousands were killed, but what does that matter to Rothschild? He had achieved his objective; the U.S. Congress granted the renewal of the Charter in 1816.

    Abraham Lincoln is assassinated



    Abraham Lincoln

    Abraham Lincoln was elected President of the United States in 1860, under the promise of abolishing the slavery of the blacks. Eleven southern States, favourable to the human slavery of the black race, then decided to secede from the Union, to withdraw from the United States of America: that was the beginning of the Civil War (1861–1865). Lincoln, being short of money to finance the North's war effort, went to the bankers of New York, who agreed to lend him money at interest rates varying from 24 to 36 percent. Lincoln refused, knowing perfectly well that this was usury and that it would lead the United States to ruin. But his money problem was still not settled!

    His friend in Chicago, Colonel Taylor, came to his rescue and put the solution to him:

    “Just get Congress to pass a bill authorizing the printing of full legal tender treasury notes, and pay your soldiers with them, and go ahead and win your war with them also.”

    This is what Lincoln did, and he won the war: between 1862 and 1863, in full conformity with the provisions of the U.S. Cons ution, Lincoln caused $450 million of debt-free Greenbacks to be issued, to conduct the Civil War. (These Treasury notes were called “Greenbacks” by the people because they were printed with green ink on the back.)

    Lincoln called these Greenbacks “the greatest blessing the American people have ever had.” A blessing for all, except for the bankers, since it was putting an end to their racket, to the stealing of the nation's credit and issuing interest-bearing money. So they did everything possible to destroy these Greenbacks and sabotage Lincoln's work. Lord Goschen, spokesman of the Financiers, wrote in the London Times (Quote taken from Who Rules America by C. K. Howe, and reproduced in Lincoln Money Martyred by Dr. R. E. Search):

    “If this mischievous financial policy, which has its origin in North America, shall become indurated down to a fixture, then that Government will furnish its own money without cost. It will pay off debts and be without a debt. It will have all the money necessary to carry on its commerce. It will become prosperous without precedent in the history of the world. That Government must be destroyed, or it will destroy every monarchy on the globe.” (The monarchy of the money lenders.)

    First, in order to cast discredit on the Greenbacks, the bankers persuaded Congress to vote, in February of 1862, the “Exception Clause”, which said that the Greenbacks could not be used to pay the interest on the national debt, nor to pay taxes, excises, or import duties. Then, in 1863, having financed the election of enough Senators and Representatives, the bankers got the Congress to revoke the Greenback Law in 1863, and enact in its place the National Banking Act. (Money was then to be issued interest-bearing by privately-owned banks.)

    This Act also provided that the Greenbacks should be retired from circulation as soon as they came back to the Treasury in payment of taxes. Lincoln heatedly protested, but his most urgent objective was to win the war and save the Union, which obliged him to put off till after the war the veto he was planning against this Act and the action he was to take against the bankers. Lincoln nevertheless declared:

    “I have two great enemies, the Southern army in front of me and the bankers in the rear. And of the two, the bankers are my greatest foe.”

    Lincoln was re-elected President in 1864, and he made it quite clear that he would attack the power of the bankers, once the war was over. The war ended on April 9, 1865, but Lincoln was assassinated five days later, on April 14. A tremendous restriction of credit followed, organized by the banks: the currency in circulation in the country, which was, in 1866, $1,907 million, representing $50.46 for each American citizen, had been reduced to $605 million in 1876, representing $14.60 per capita. The result: in ten years, 56,446 business failures, representing a loss of $2 billion. And as if this was not enough, the bankers reduced the per capita currency in circulation to $6.67 in 1887!

    William Jennings Bryan: “The banks ought to get out”



    William Jennings Bryan

    Lincoln's example nevertheless remained in several minds, as far along as 1896. That year, the Presidential candidate for the Democrats was William Jennings Bryan, and once again, history textbooks tell us that it was a good thing that he did not succeed in his bid for the Presidency, since he was against the bankers' “sound money”, the money issued as a debt, and against the gold standard. Bryan said:

    “We say in our platform that we believe that the right to coin and issue money is a function of Government. We believe it. Those who are opposed to it tell us that the issue of paper money is a function of the bank, and that the Government ought to get out of the banking business. I tell them that the issue of money is a function of Government, and that the banks ought to get out of the Government business... When we have restored the money of the Cons ution, all other necessary reforms will be possible, but until this is done, there is no other reform that can be accomplished.”

    The Fed: The most gigantic trust



    Charles A. Lindbergh

    Finally, on December 23, 1913, the U.S. Congress voted in the Federal Reserve Act, which took away from Congress the power to create money, and which handed over this power to the Federal Reserve Corporation. One of the rare Congressmen who had understood all the issue at stake in this Act, Representative Charles A. Lindbergh Sr. (Rep-Minnesota), father of the famous aviator, said:

    “This Act establishes the most gigantic trust on earth. When the President (Wilson) signs this bill, the invisible government of the Monetary Power will be legalized... The worst legislative crime of the ages is perpetrated by this banking and currency bill.”

    The education of the people
    What allowed the bankers to finally obtain the complete monopoly of the control of credit in the United States? The ignorance among the population of the money question. John Adams wrote to Thomas Jefferson, in 1787:

    “All the perplexities, confusion and distress in America arise, not from defects in the Cons ution, not from want of honor or virtue, so much as downright ignorance of the nature of coin, credit, and circulation.”

    Lincoln's Secretary of Treasury, Salmon P. Chase, stated publicly, shortly after the passage of the National Banking Act, in 1863:

    “My agency in promoting the passage of the National Banking Act was the greatest financial mistake of my life. It has built up a monopoly which affects every interest in the country. It should be repealed, but before that can be accomplished, the people will be arrayed on one side, and the banks on the other, in a contest such as we have never seen before in this country.”

    Automobile manufacturer Henry Ford said:

    “If the people of the nation understood our banking and monetary system, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning.”

    The education of the people, that's the solution! It is precisely the method advocated by the “Michael” Journal: to build a force in the people through education, so that the sovereign government of each nation will have the courage to stand up to the bankers and issue its own money, as President Lincoln did. If only all those in favour of an honest money system understood their responsibilities for spreading the “Michael” Journal! Social Credit, which would establish an economy where everything is organized to serve the human person, is precisely aiming to develop personal responsibility, to create responsible people. Each mind won over to Social Credit is an advance. Each person formed by Social Credit is a force, and each force acquired is a step towards the victory. And for the last sixty years, how many forces have been acquired!… If all of them were active, it is really before tomorrow morning that we would obtain the implementation of the Social Credit proposals!

    As Louis Even wrote in 1960:

    “The obstacle is neither the financier, nor the politician, nor any avowed enemy. The obstacle lies in the passivity of too many Social Crediters who hope for the coming of the triumph of the Cause, but who leave it up to others to promote it.”

    In short, it is our refusal to take on our responsibilities that delays the implementation of Social Credit, of an honest money system. “Much will be asked of the man to whom much has been given” (Luke 12:48). Examine your consciences, dear Social Crediters; personal conversion, one more go, and let us take on our responsibilities: the victory has never been so close! Our responsibility is to make Social Credit known to others, by having them subscribe to the “Michael” Journal, the only publication that makes this brilliant solution known.

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    John Wilkes Booth was a member of the Knights of the Golden Circle - freemason FYI.

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    John Wilkes Booth was a member of the Knights of the Golden Circle - freemason FYI.
    Chris

    This is really stupid. Stunningly stupid, even for you.

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    This is really stupid. Stunningly stupid, even for you.
    Are you disputing this fact?

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    Are you disputing this fact?
    I'm disputing that's the reason Booth shot Lincoln.

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    I'm disputing that's the reason Booth shot Lincoln.

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    The hidden hand of history:



    Booth



    Marx



    Stalin and Washington



    Stalin again


    Napoleon



    Mozart



    Salomon Rothschild



    Simon Bolivar



    The Walrus



    Powell



    DeNiro



    Lenin



    President Garfield



    President Franklin Pierce


    Most if not all were 33rd degree freemasons. There's also a ton more. Not a conspiracy.

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    The hidden hand of history:



    Booth



    Marx



    Stalin and Washington



    Stalin again


    Napoleon



    Mozart



    Salomon Rothschild



    Simon Bolivar



    The Walrus



    Powell



    DeNiro



    Lenin



    President Garfield



    President Franklin Pierce


    Most if not all were 33rd degree freemasons. There's also a ton more. Not a conspiracy.
    Yes, this is your conspiracy.


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    Are you disputing this fact?
    CoachRumpHumper is ensuring the Fed stays.

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    CoachRumpHumper is ensuring the Fed stays.
    Fabbs doesn't know anything about this either.

    Still butthurt.

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