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    So as much as I hate on Parker and his contract, he showed up big in these playoffs. Made huge shots and made some great drives. No matter how much quickness he's lost, it's almost impossible to defend his spin move. Huge loss for the Spurs. I guess the only upside is that it throws Murray into the fire and maybe...just maybe he'll deliver.

    But to Tony Parker...oh Great Phoenix...


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    LOL!

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    Team missing the Phoenix right now...

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    Team missing the Phoenix right now...
    No we are not...didnt u see him last year?

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    He was utter crap in the playoffs. How can he be good when his ass is pinned to the bench because he’s afraid to play because of a bruised ego? He was scared of going up against Curry so he faked an injury that get out of that series.

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    Team missing the Phoenix right now...
    Most definitely

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    No we are not...didnt u see him last year?
    parker is not what he was but he is better than any of the PGs we have at this time. I am not saying potentially because we have some (namely murray) that have the potential to be better even by the end of this season, but there are aspects to tony's game that provide stability to the offense (and defense) that are clearly missing at this time.

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    If we had Tony at point instead of 50 we'd probably have 3 less L's right now.

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    If we had Tony at point instead of 50 we'd probably have 3 less L's right now.

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    If we had Tony at point instead of 50 we'd probably have 3 less L's right now.
    I'd go with two: Indiana and Milwaukee. Maybe last night too because so much damage was done by stupid turnovers.

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    Tony has been a ing cancer the last couple of years. Probably down 10 by the first quarter.

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    I'd go with two: Indiana and Milwaukee. Maybe last night too because so much damage was done by stupid turnovers.
    That's what I'm saying

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    Tony can run the offense better than the other PGs we've got. Start Parker, backup with Murray, and let Mills pick up spot minutes at the 1, and the 2 when we're going ultra small ball.

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    parker is not what he was but he is better than any of the PGs we have at this time. I am not saying potentially because we have some (namely murray) that have the potential to be better even by the end of this season, but there are aspects to tony's game that provide stability to the offense (and defense) that are clearly missing at this time.
    Better at what exactly?

    There's areas of the PG position (on this team) WITH Kawhi that are more valuable than others. What areas are Parkers strengths and how valuable are those areas when Kawhi is playing?

    There's reasons why the Spurs won 3.5/4 games without Parker out of the 5 games vs. Houston.

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    Tony can run the offense better than the other PGs we've got. Start Parker, backup with Murray, and let Mills pick up spot minutes at the 1, and the 2 when we're going ultra small ball.
    What is the definition of running an offense? People act like Parker controls what his teammates do, like they are clueless. As if everyone but Parker are just chess pieces on a board and Parker is the brain behind moving all the pieces. That couldn't further from reality. Every player on the floor is aware of whats going on and where to be ( its their equal responsibility).

    These days, Parker is used the same way as any other wing/guard not named Kawhi, except he brings the ball up the floor like Patty and Murray.

    The same sets Patty, Manu, Murray are running, are the same sets Parker will be running when he returns. Parker doesn't have it in him anymore to be anymore creative -- hasn't been the case for 3 years now. But yes, he did shoot out of his mind vs. the Grizzlies in 6 games last year ( shot over 58% from 3 -- that is not sustainable). I'm not going to sit here and value that performance over the small 6 game sample over his game the past 3 years. You can be that delusional fan, but I'm certainly not.
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    Manu4tres with the sauce.

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    Tony has been a ing cancer the last couple of years. Probably down 10 by the first quarter.
    and that's with him playing with Kawhi. Imagine him not.

    Even ing worse. Might have way way way more losses. FACTS.

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    Better at what exactly?

    There's areas of the PG position (on this team) WITH Kawhi that are more valuable than others. What areas are Parkers strengths and how valuable are those areas when Kawhi is playing?

    There's reasons why the Spurs won 3.5/4 games without Parker out of the 5 games vs. Houston.
    quite frankly, TP is a better ball handler. that has always been one of his greater strengths. that is why he was always so damn fast at getting the ball from baseline to baseline. he also has far more experience and is more of a coach on the floor. he is not great on one on one defense but he knows how to move the player he is defending towards the shot blockers and is a big reason players such as green get their blocked shots. he also has the most reliable in between game so defenders have to honor his shot which helps tremendously on pick and rolls. in the context of leonard being out, our instability at the PG position is a glaring issue. when leonard comes back, unless we want to become an iso offense again, the PG position will still need to be addressed. and this is not an indictment against murray; i want murray to be the starter eventually but he too is suffering from the loss of leonard and a lack of experience. also, murray will get better as his ball handling skills and shooting improve, which i expect them to. it also doesn't help that mills has been so awful.

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    Anyone who disagrees doesn't watch the ing Spurs. FACTS.

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    Porker has been a CANCER even with a healthy team. WTF are people smoking?

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    quite frankly, TP is a better ball handler. that has always been one of his greater strengths. that is why he was always so damn fast at getting the ball from baseline to baseline. he also has far more experience and is more of a coach on the floor. he is not great on one on one defense but he knows how to move the player he is defending towards the shot blockers and is a big reason players such as green get their blocked shots. he also has the most reliable in between game so defenders have to honor his shot which helps tremendously on pick and rolls. in the context of leonard being out, our instability at the PG position is a glaring issue. when leonard comes back, unless we want to become an iso offense again, the PG position will still need to be addressed. and this is not an indictment against murray; i want murray to be the starter eventually but he too is suffering from the loss of leonard and a lack of experience. also, murray will get better as his ball handling skills and shooting improve, which i expect them to. it also doesn't help that mills has been so awful.
    Our instability at the PG position even existed WITH Parker for the past 3 years due to his regression and his inability to make consistent positive impact in games from, not only an eye test perspective, but from an advanced statistics perspective. . Acting like its because Parker is out is somewhat foolish. These days, along with the past 3 years, his greatest strength ( speed, quickness) has been zapped and he's no longer a one man fast break getting easy points in transition. Or no longer than PnR torpedo getting into the paint and finishing (he hardly ever does this anymore). He may be a better ball handler, but these days he can't utilize that strength to get to the areas of the floor he used to because of his inability to turn corners and get inside the defense. If you want him utilizing his ball handling strength by dribbling out on the perimeter in PnRs getting stonewalled or taking contested 18-20 footers then you're not being very wise.

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    Our instability at the PG position even existed WITH Parker for the past 3 years due to his regression and his inability to make consistent positive impact in games from, not only an eye test perspective, but from an advanced statistics perspective. . Acting like its because Parker is out is somewhat foolish. These days, along with the past 3 years, his greatest strength ( speed, quickness) has been zapped and he's no longer a one man fast break getting easy points in transition. Or no longer than PnR torpedo getting into the paint and finishing (he hardly ever does this anymore). He may be a better ball handler, but these days he can't utilize that strength to get to the areas of the floor he used to because of his inability to turn corners and get inside the defense. If you want him utilizing his ball handling strength by dribbling out on the perimeter in PnRs getting stonewalled or taking contested 18-20 footers then you're not being very wise.
    Reality.

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    Too many ing posters live in fantasy world. I loved Parker at one point as our PG in 2012/2013 seasons. He hasn't brought anything to the table these past couple of years besides an injury plagued POS player.

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    I even predicted Tony would get injured last year. I'm always right on that bas .

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