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Kings will need dead money salaries. They`ll take that deal if 1st round pick or talent is attached.
As a Laker fan, he is the one who would piss me off the most. Pop drafted that bas just to with millions of Laker fans like me. For years we had to endure Derek Fisher getting torched by this guy.
That being said do you guys think TP comes back strong? For the Spurs sake, you better hope so. He's 35, ruptured left quadriceps tendon, and relies on speed to be effective. If he doesn't regain his speed what good is he?
He has an expiring $15.4M cap hit. Historically, teams try to flip an expiring deal into something useful but who would want a soon to be 36 year old PG coming off major surgery on his knee? What is the timeline for recovery, considering his age and tons of playoff mileage? Y'all may be stuck with him until he's off the books.
Patty is nice, but he's no more than a role player. That rook y'all have seems promising (though I hope not).
If this is the end of TP as we know him, it was a of a ride.
Thoughts?
Last edited by LkrFan; 05-22-2017 at 09:45 AM.
Kings will need dead money salaries. They`ll take that deal if 1st round pick or talent is attached.
I honestly think he'll work to come back. But he's going to be a s of former self. Highly doubt spurs would dump and extend his contract. Maybe if he was a roll player or someone like that.
Plus it was his quad tendon, not patellar.
Mills isn't the answer for our PG needs. Not sure how he plays without another ballhandler/playmaker like Manu in the back court with him.
Spurs aren't trading TP, the best guard in franchise history, to teams like the Kings and Nets tbh. Green, Gasol, and Aldridge would be traded before they do TP like that.
Murray is our PG next season
I stand corrected. He had a ruptured left quadriceps tendon. I'll change the OP.
Spurs aren't trading TP, the best guard in franchise history, to teams like the Kings and Nets tbh. Green, Gasol, and Aldridge would be traded before they do TP like that.
Murray is our PG next season
I'm really uncomfortable with the thought of Murray being our starting PG....
They`ll do if he`s done as nba player. Problem is that, they have dump him in JulySpurs aren't trading TP, the best guard in franchise history, to teams like the Kings and Nets tbh. Green, Gasol, and Aldridge would be traded before they do TP like that.
Murray is our PG next season
The only way they trade TP to a place like the Kings is if TP has decided to retire and the Kings would acquire rights and waive him so he wouldn't have to go there.
Not so fast son. Ainge traded Boston's Big 3 to the Nets. Look at all the draft picks they got as a result.Spurs aren't trading TP, the best guard in franchise history, to teams like the Kings and Nets tbh. Green, Gasol, and Aldridge would be traded before they do TP like that.
Murray is our PG next season
Not saying you can get anything of significance for him (I hope nt), but don't rule out the possibility of trading him.
I'd rather start him over maxing out second tier PG's like Lowry, Hill, and Holiday. If he doesn't work out then it's no problem since he's on a rookie contract.
Would go all out for CP3 first though, obviously.
I agree. If he retires, then all bets are off. They traded Bruce and waived Timmy.
Problem is Brooklyn was the team that was foolish enough to do that. Billy KingNot so fast son. Ainge traded Boston's Big 3 to the Nets. Look at all the draft picks they got as a result.
Not saying you can get anything of significance for him (I hope n
Comment from a Nets fan:I'd rather start him over maxing out second tier PG's like Lowry, Hill, and Holiday. If he doesn't work out then it's no problem since he's on a rookie contract.
Would go all out for CP3 first though, obviously.
I agree. If he retires, then all bets are off. They traded Bruce and waived Timmy.
Problem is Brooklyn was the team that was foolish enough to do that. Billy King
**IF I WAS IN A ROOM WITH HITLER, STALIN, AND BILLY KING WITH TWO BULLETS I'D SHOOT BILLY ING KING TWICE**
TP has had good career here in SA I salute you my friend, now take a seat and teach DeJounte Murray...
Thank you for the Good memories- Here is to many more........
It's going to be tough. Coming back is going to have to be something he really, really wants more than anything. It would tell a lot if we knew whether they have him immobilized, or on an accelerated rehab protocol. Going through that is a cast-iron . Not questioning whether he could do it - it's just something you really have to want, and he's got a lot of things waiting for him when he's done with the NBA.
Tony isn't getting traded. He will play his whole career as a Spur, no exceptions. Neither he nor the Spurs organization would have that any other way. If he's healthy enough to play, he plays here. I know he could be traded to a team with tons of cap room, with the intention of waiving him right afterward. But there are so many things wrong with that, I'm not even going to discuss it. He's not getting traded.
For the team, the injury happened at the worst possible time. The SL starts on July 7 or 8, I forget which. The last day to stretch a contract is Aug. 31. If Tony says he's coming back, I think PATFO probably plan on him coming back, and count on him doing the work to make it happen. (And on his body responding.) By the time they know anything for certain, it would be too late to make the kind of arrangements they could have made.
The one thing nobody has mentioned: if Tony says he plans on coming back, the docs and the team are going to insist that he strengthen everything (not just the injured leg) and be as lean as possible. There's a chance, even if it's slim, that he could come back next season better than he was this season.
This is the end of him starting. He will likely come back late next year. I heard it may take 8 months to recover. His game has been changing for 2 years already. He has been working on his 3pt shot, and it will improve as it will be all He can do. He is basically a player/coach from this point onward. A great 3rd stringer, for the minimum when his contract expires for 2018. He has great corporate knowledge that is needed for current/future young players. A roster of all youth is not always the answer either, just look at the t-wolves. Parker's wisdom will be invaluable for Djounte Murray, Bertans, and, and whoever else the Spurs bring in.
I'll probably catch the usual for doing this, but what the ?
Quad tendon tears/ruptures are most common in middle-aged men. Most of them, obviously, aren't professional athletes who are used to training as hard as guys who have made it in the NBA. And few of them have access to the doctors and rehab facilities that the Spurs have. They got Tony into surgery almost immediately after the injury, which is a big factor in recovery. Most people (and doctors) piss around for weeks before deciding whether surgery is even necessary, and even then they usually aren't in a big hurry to schedule the surgery since it's not "urgent". That's another difference in having the very best sports doctors. So a lot of the recovery times you read about are based on guys who are weekend warrior type athletes.
The average Joe would have the injured leg immobilized for weeks, to begin. There is an accelerated protocol where they begin range of motion exercises soon after surgery, and strength exercises soon after the sutures/staples come out. So if he's going through that, after having the surgery within a day or so after the injury (however long it was), he's already way ahead of typical recovery times.
There's always a chance his body just doesn't respond as well as needed, but I don't think that's likely. By four months - the end of August - he could reasonably be back to 90% strength in that leg, and have a couple of months to get used to trusting it to cut and jump. A lot of it really does come down to whether, at his age, he wants to get back badly enough to go through all that and dedicate every damn day to it. With the amount of money he has, Asvel interest, baby, etc.? I wouldn't blame him for moving on. I'm sure he's considering it.
Last edited by GSH; 05-22-2017 at 11:17 AM.
Pop starts Patty and waits for Tony. Murray will be backup.
I really don't understand why some fans want the Spurs to re-sign Patty for his market value. I simply do not understand it.
But why? Patty is hit or miss at this stage of his career. Might as well give the keys to Murray until if/when TP returns.
What if someone offers Patty something like 3yr/$45M? Do the Spurs pay him that to stay, and wait for Tony? If they encourage Tony to retire, and stretch his salary, they gain about $10M in cap space this year. Where is the dollar cut-off where you have to just let Patty go? And will Patty jump anyway, if he thinks there's a chance he might keep coming off the bench behind either Murray or a recovered Tony?
There is nothing obvious about what to do.
Good posts. We'll see how much TP wants it or not.
Good points. It's kind of like the George Hill situation from a few years ago, no? In my eyes the Spurs are in the same exact situation with Patty. What is their line in the sand?
Pop values time in grade and system knowledge over raw talent.
Patty cant offer starting level services anywhere. He fits SA system.
Gs great d and in playoffs try more
Training came and all season will help him in playoffs
Also tp mentally him
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